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Post by eeeeef on Apr 5, 2022 10:18:36 GMT
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Post by eeeeef on Apr 5, 2022 10:22:35 GMT
He's a pretty good arch/cav hybrid with great stats and good skills but has decent rank, bad title meaning he still has ways to go before he reaches his full potential, his hero item is also locked between a paywall meaning he'll be significantly weaker compared to generals like El Cid. However he's still a good buy imo thank to his hero legend. 4/5.
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Post by kingbutawl on Apr 6, 2022 15:41:26 GMT
Indeed I'll probably hire Nur just to play some hero legends missions
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Post by jonblend on Apr 7, 2022 5:08:50 GMT
Which units would you use on him for the hero legend/in general?
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Post by truhses on Apr 7, 2022 7:03:15 GMT
Which units would you use on him for the hero legend/in general? Any of the best archers you have. For example, 2 Ravennas and 1 Voad to overcome mountains and forests.
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Post by stoic on Apr 7, 2022 7:17:00 GMT
Which units would you use on him for the hero legend/in general? It heavily depends on the levels of troops in your HQ.
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Post by jonblend on Apr 7, 2022 13:13:05 GMT
Which units would you use on him for the hero legend/in general? It heavily depends on the levels of troops in your HQ. At lv6 or higher, I have Varangians, Garrison Spearmen, Noble Cav and Woad+Ravenna. I'll probably use both archers and some other unit in front of them, in case there are stages where we can only use Nur Din. But I'm also open to "crazy" builds such as 3x Noble cav since I don't have his weapon and my other generals will probably be the carries. Long term usage depends a lot on whether we need a 3rd archer general (after Cid and Narses)
wouldn't this put the Woad Raider in front?
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Post by stoic on Apr 7, 2022 13:36:41 GMT
It heavily depends on the levels of troops in your HQ. At lv6 or higher, I have Varangians, Garrison Spearmen, Noble Cav and Woad+Ravenna. I'll probably use both archers and some other unit in front of them, in case there are stages where we can only use Nur Din. But I'm also open to "crazy" builds such as 3x Noble cav since I don't have his weapon and my other generals will probably be the carries. Long term usage depends a lot on whether we need a 3rd archer general (after Cid and Narses)
wouldn't this put the Woad Raider in front?
Nur ad-Din's campaign was a bit tricky to me. Definitely harder than other campaigns. But this difficulty was rather conditional. The problem was that our allies (including those we are supposed to protect) almost always have Camel archers and Camel riders as their troops. And I have completely neglected these units. I haven't even unlocked them and simply dismantled all the fragments I had. Probably a mistake, but I had other priorities. So, I just gave Nur ad-Din best archers I have (lvl 8 Elephant Archers), because there are couple of missions when we have to keep him alive. And my Elephants were tanky enough. There are also several missions when our enemies attack first or have unexpected reinforcements. So, be prepared it won't be an easy walk at times.
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Post by eeeeef on Apr 7, 2022 15:27:00 GMT
At lv6 or higher, I have Varangians, Garrison Spearmen, Noble Cav and Woad+Ravenna. I'll probably use both archers and some other unit in front of them, in case there are stages where we can only use Nur Din. But I'm also open to "crazy" builds such as 3x Noble cav since I don't have his weapon and my other generals will probably be the carries. Long term usage depends a lot on whether we need a 3rd archer general (after Cid and Narses)
wouldn't this put the Woad Raider in front?
Nur ad-Din's campaign was a bit tricky to me. Definitely harder than other campaigns. But this difficulty was rather conditional. The problem was that our allies (including those we are supposed to protect) almost always have Camel archers and Camel riders as their troops. And I have completely neglected these units. I haven't even unlocked them and simply dismantled all the fragments I had. Probably a mistake, but I had other priorities. So, I just gave Nur ad-Din best archers I have (lvl 8 Elephant Archers), because there are couple of missions when we have to keep him alive. And my Elephants were tanky enough. There are also several missions when our enemies attack first or have unexpected reinforcements. So, be prepared it won't be an easy walk at times. What are the raid rewards?
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Post by stoic on Apr 7, 2022 15:55:18 GMT
Nur ad-Din's campaign was a bit tricky to me. Definitely harder than other campaigns. But this difficulty was rather conditional. The problem was that our allies (including those we are supposed to protect) almost always have Camel archers and Camel riders as their troops. And I have completely neglected these units. I haven't even unlocked them and simply dismantled all the fragments I had. Probably a mistake, but I had other priorities. So, I just gave Nur ad-Din best archers I have (lvl 8 Elephant Archers), because there are couple of missions when we have to keep him alive. And my Elephants were tanky enough. There are also several missions when our enemies attack first or have unexpected reinforcements. So, be prepared it won't be an easy walk at times. What are the raid rewards? Here are all Raids with rewards european-war-4.boards.net/thread/17342/raids
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Post by stoic on Apr 7, 2022 16:52:14 GMT
It heavily depends on the levels of troops in your HQ. Long term usage depends a lot on whether we need a 3rd archer general (after Cid and Narses) I am not even sure that he is a 3rd without his weapon. Subutai is (or, at least, was) far better than Nur ad-Din, because he had lvl 3 skills, and two of his skills ("master shooter" and "Mountain fighting") are better than Nur ad-Din's "siege master" and "desert fighting". Timur (I assume he will be another IAP general, I can't explain his disappearance in any other way) was probably better than Nur ad-Din, because he had "Plain fighting" and "Call for reinforcement". And with different units at our disposal Lancelot can be a better archer than Nur ad-Din. I think to hide his weapon behind a pay wall was yet another bad (or, at least, questionable) decision. Players with IAP generals won't use him because they have way better archers like Attila or Robin, and f2p players won't use him because without his weapon he is just a mediocre general. One good thing about Nur ad-Din is his special chapter. This is a good opportunity to upgrade our best generals.
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Post by truhses on Apr 7, 2022 18:37:46 GMT
The third archer general is needed for the treasure. And this is the only thing Nur is good for without his subject. But even for premium players, its item is too far away, and by the time I unlock it, more interesting options for archer generals will most likely open up. In general, average stats, average skills, average special unit - average rating. 3/5.
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Post by ash1234 on Apr 8, 2022 3:42:29 GMT
I mean- he's kinda like the archer version of Harald, but he's got a hero mission so that's a plus. But that kinda forces you to upgrade him to general, as well as his title in order to make him at least decent. He's not that bad, but not good either, could be used as a 2nd/3rd archer gen after Justinian/ El cid. A solid 4 for me. I only bought him in the first place due to the abundance of good archer equipment we are given for free+ his hero mission.
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Post by kingbutawl on Apr 9, 2022 11:25:34 GMT
I mean- he's kinda like the archer version of Harald, but he's got a hero mission so that's a plus. But that kinda forces you to upgrade him to general, as well as his title in order to make him at least decent. He's not that bad, but not good either, could be used as a 2nd/3rd archer gen after Justinian/ El cid. A solid 4 for me. I only bought him in the first place due to the abundance of good archer equipment we are given for free+ his hero mission. Harald is a Chad if you upgrade him correctly (with 3 blue Vikings is just like Beowulf).
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Post by gambino on Apr 22, 2022 6:04:54 GMT
I think Nur Din is solid although it’ll take an investment. He’s like the Basil of archer gens to me without his weapon he’s not great without one but if you put another non-f2p general’s weapon on him and upgrade it the only thing you’ll be missing out on is the +1 level to master of archery and ranged tact which does buff him a bit but he can still reach over 108 archer points with atillas weapon plus a damage boost throw a steel crossbow on him he goes up to 117 and his master of archery skill gets upgraded to 3. That’s arguably a better archer gen than Cid just because of the active skills.
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