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Post by awsome4444 on Apr 19, 2022 4:34:45 GMT
I've seen plenty of people say how good Justinian is because of his lobbyist. However, his unique weapons is premium and he really isn't worth for his price in my opinion. Plus you can easily do conquests without him, with my Cnut, Alfred the Great, El Cid, Roland, etc I can easily clear most conquests. If you actually need an admin general there are some bronze tier admin that are almost as good as him, but way cheaper. Also, Justinian is almost useless in campaigns when it gets to late stage as you have better archer gens like El Cid and Narses. In my opinion don't make him a priority focus on gens that can push you through campaigns quicker to get more resources.
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Post by yuanzhong on Apr 19, 2022 6:23:47 GMT
I've seen plenty of people say how good Justinian is because of his lobbyist. However, his unique weapons is premium and he really isn't worth for his price in my opinion. Plus you can easily do conquests without him, with my Cnut, Alfred the Great, El Cid, Roland, etc I can easily clear most conquests. If you actually need an admin general there are some bronze tier admin that are almost as good as him, but way cheaper. Also, Justinian is almost useless in campaigns when it gets to late stage as you have better archer gens like El Cid and Narses. In my opinion don't make him a priority focus on gens that can push you through campaigns quicker to get more resources. He's best for those who like auto and speedrun conquest. |
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Post by truhses on Apr 19, 2022 7:26:44 GMT
Justinian must be taken along with Theodora. In conquest it's OP (conquest won't always be easy) and good campaign support. Of course, this is not a priority, but a necessary acquisition.
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Post by phalanx on Apr 19, 2022 8:07:26 GMT
Justinian must be taken along with Theodora. In conquest it's OP (conquest won't always be easy) and good campaign support. Of course, this is not a priority, but a necessary acquisition. May I ask how you have ranked and set up Theodora? |
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Post by wyxelix on Apr 19, 2022 8:27:08 GMT
I've seen plenty of people say how good Justinian is because of his lobbyist. However, his unique weapons is premium and he really isn't worth for his price in my opinion. Plus you can easily do conquests without him, with my Cnut, Alfred the Great, El Cid, Roland, etc I can easily clear most conquests. If you actually need an admin general there are some bronze tier admin that are almost as good as him, but way cheaper. Also, Justinian is almost useless in campaigns when it gets to late stage as you have better archer gens like El Cid and Narses. In my opinion don't make him a priority focus on gens that can push you through campaigns quicker to get more resources. Thus spoke Zarathustra, grab your popcorns everyone. All jokes aside, +2 technology and lobbyist are one of the factors to maximize the efficiency in conquest. With the +2 technology bond you can easily get a siege war gears or set sail with a good ship in rise of byzantium, On the other hand lobbyist is a great skill as there are countries/kingdoms in which all other countries basically hate you(there are countries/kingdoms/empires that has negative relations to most countries and can only be solved by gifting or declare war). Sure he isn't required but he'll save a significant amount of time besides you can almost get all the great ones in this game. |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Apr 19, 2022 8:41:00 GMT
I've seen plenty of people say how good Justinian is because of his lobbyist. However, his unique weapons is premium and he really isn't worth for his price in my opinion. Plus you can easily do conquests without him, with my Cnut, Alfred the Great, El Cid, Roland, etc I can easily clear most conquests. If you actually need an admin general there are some bronze tier admin that are almost as good as him, but way cheaper. Also, Justinian is almost useless in campaigns when it gets to late stage as you have better archer gens like El Cid and Narses. In my opinion don't make him a priority focus on gens that can push you through campaigns quicker to get more resources. IMO Narses second best infantry general. With 3-4 attack per turn, maybe best infantry general now.   PS. And bond with Belisarius, 3rd of best infantry general, Narses really best infantry general now.  |
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Post by Erich on Apr 19, 2022 10:07:02 GMT
IMO, Justinian is not excel in a specific role, but he’s ok/good at everything.
He has decent equal stats for Cav, Inf, Archer capability; making flexible use of items.
He has a good bond bonus that affects everywhere while every other bond has effect on the general’s unit only. Theodora, is the only general with high Administration Capability and Leadership lvl3, makes good use of the Dazzling Crown item; she also has Calmness.
His skill set, is good for defending - the role not many general good at.
For attacking, that Siege Master lvl3 won’t disappoint you.
He has 2 of the best Consul skills, and a very good Administration Capability.
He starts out Emperor and Lieutenant 3, doesn’t need much investment.
He may not be an excel Cav/Inf/Archer general, but you can throw him everywhere and be content with the result, I’d love to have a subordinate like that.
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Post by onur on Apr 19, 2022 10:25:47 GMT
when we play latest campaigns in hard mode, brute force and attack power of generals is diminished bc of increased lvl diff&some very tanky units, defend missions. so justin works well in these situations.
could i complete missions w/o him? prolly yes (also completed chapters w/o el cid) . do i have regrets to get him? nope (i have huge regret for getting basil).
he has an niche usage.
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Post by kingbutawl on Apr 21, 2022 16:46:23 GMT
when we play latest campaigns in hard mode, brute force and attack power of generals is diminished bc of increased lvl diff&some very tanky units, defend missions. so justin works well in these situations. could i complete missions w/o him? prolly yes (also completed chapters w/o el cid) . do i have regrets to get him? nope (i have huge regret for getting basil). he has an niche usage. I regret Basil too, but I’ve kinda saved him on heavy axe acavalry and 2 Noble cavalry (more damage than Simeon and on par with Alfred). You can complete every hard mission without Justinian indeed, but it was much easier with him and I didn’t spend any drums. Just upgrade units and even Justinian will rock (I know because my Theodora on legion spearman/conquistador/Varangian is pretty useful and she refreshes my skills. |
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Post by Louis Gabriel Suchet on Apr 24, 2022 6:18:47 GMT
when we play latest campaigns in hard mode, brute force and attack power of generals is diminished bc of increased lvl diff&some very tanky units, defend missions. so justin works well in these situations. could i complete missions w/o him? prolly yes (also completed chapters w/o el cid) . do i have regrets to get him? nope (i have huge regret for getting basil). he has an niche usage. I regret Basil too, but I’ve kinda saved him on heavy axe acavalry and 2 Noble cavalry (more damage than Simeon and on par with Alfred). You can complete every hard mission without Justinian indeed, but it was much easier with him and I didn’t spend any drums. Just upgrade units and even Justinian will rock (I know because my Theodora on legion spearman/conquistador/Varangian is pretty useful and she refreshes my skills. Wait do you think I should get Basil or Simeon instead? I need another Calvary general but I'm not sure which to get (I already have Roland)... |
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Post by kingbutawl on Apr 24, 2022 7:13:28 GMT
I regret Basil too, but I’ve kinda saved him on heavy axe acavalry and 2 Noble cavalry (more damage than Simeon and on par with Alfred). You can complete every hard mission without Justinian indeed, but it was much easier with him and I didn’t spend any drums. Just upgrade units and even Justinian will rock (I know because my Theodora on legion spearman/conquistador/Varangian is pretty useful and she refreshes my skills. Wait do you think I should get Basil or Simeon instead? I need another Calvary general but I'm not sure which to get (I already have Roland)... Simeon is a guaranteed triple charge and he’s king. Take him with “Immortality” crown  |
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Post by Louis Gabriel Suchet on Apr 24, 2022 19:16:30 GMT
Wait do you think I should get Basil or Simeon instead? I need another Calvary general but I'm not sure which to get (I already have Roland)... Simeon is a guaranteed triple charge and he’s king. Take him with “Immortality” crown  Oh ok thanks! |
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Post by awsome4444 on Apr 24, 2022 22:16:11 GMT
Wait do you think I should get Basil or Simeon instead? I need another Calvary general but I'm not sure which to get (I already have Roland)... Simeon is a guaranteed triple charge and he’s king. Take him with “Immortality” crown The problem I have with Simeon is the fact that he dies too quickly. Although he can deal a shoot ton of damage, he will die in one hits or two due to the lack of damage reduction. Especially, this is the case in treasure and hard mode. |
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Post by kingbutawl on Apr 24, 2022 23:45:09 GMT
Simeon is a guaranteed triple charge and he’s king. Take him with “Immortality” crown The problem I have with Simeon is the fact that he dies too quickly. Although he can deal a shoot ton of damage, he will die in one hits or two due to the lack of damage reduction. Especially, this is the case in treasure and hard mode. If you want him more tank, give him “Joyeuse” instead of “Immortality” or every other unique item for cavalry with damage reduction. However you will find the lack of +22% bonus damage. In this case give him yellow cuirass together with Richard’s crown |
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Post by Manfred von Richthofen on Apr 24, 2022 23:50:13 GMT
I've seen plenty of people say how good Justinian is because of his lobbyist. However, his unique weapons is premium and he really isn't worth for his price in my opinion. Plus you can easily do conquests without him, with my Cnut, Alfred the Great, El Cid, Roland, etc I can easily clear most conquests. If you actually need an admin general there are some bronze tier admin that are almost as good as him, but way cheaper. Also, Justinian is almost useless in campaigns when it gets to late stage as you have better archer gens like El Cid and Narses. In my opinion don't make him a priority focus on gens that can push you through campaigns quicker to get more resources. IMO Narses second best infantry general. With 3-4 attack per turn, maybe best infantry general now.  PS. And bond with Belisarius, 3rd of best infantry general, Narses really best infantry general now.  Where Harald Hardrada  . |
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