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Post by Dannes on May 16, 2022 7:26:11 GMT
Btw, ET is trolling us with Richard's behavior in Crusader conquest. I bribed his Expedition and allied them as it is super cheap. But when I asked him to help me against the Byzantines he was chilling for several turns and after that sent his troops. But he himself remained near Jerusalem. Freaking pilgrim    POV: Saladin and Richard became friends, cancelling the third crusade, saving Barbarossa, and allowing Richard to go home earlier than Philip |
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Post by nikomachos on May 16, 2022 19:57:11 GMT
Holy Roman Empire Crusaders - Turn 12 Might be Turn 10 or 15. Will appear in modern day Bulgaria or northern parts of European Turkey. French Crusaders - Turn 20 Appears in modern day Greece. Cuman-Kipchaks - Turn 33 Might be Turn 30 or 35. Appears along the entire stretch of the Caucasus which was blocked off. Seljuk Empire - Turn 45 Might be triggered by turn count, the fall of Constantinople to the player's hands or the fall of the Sultanate of Rûm, or a combination of factors. Appears in parts of modern day Iraq that was blocked off.
The Crusaders cannot be bought off, but the other two can. Crusaders can be bribed, it is just super expensive  I tried it with French. With Goodwill Ambassador skill it provides positive diplomacy +2/+5 per max bribe. I spent 8000+ for getting to +10 relations, but even with Justinian relations deteriorate by 10 points each turn anyway. But I postponed them to DoW me even though I didn't need it. Just for the experiment. seljuk can not be bribed when playing county of tripoli. in turn you can bribe crusaders who of course are your allies. |
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Post by ruffruder on May 16, 2022 20:01:08 GMT
Crusaders can be bribed, it is just super expensive I tried it with French. With Goodwill Ambassador skill it provides positive diplomacy +2/+5 per max bribe. I spent 8000+ for getting to +10 relations, but even with Justinian relations deteriorate by 10 points each turn anyway. But I postponed them to DoW me even though I didn't need it. Just for the experiment. seljuk can not be bribed when playing county of tripoli. in turn you can bribe crusaders who of course are your allies. I allied barbarians in one of the previous conquest while have olga and 20% or smth chance of success, just spammed offer until positive |
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Post by andrei on May 16, 2022 20:48:19 GMT
Seljuk Empire - Turn 45 Might be triggered by turn count, the fall of Constantinople to the player's hands or the fall of the Sultanate of Rûm, or a combination of factors. Appears in parts of modern day Iraq that was blocked off.
When I was playing Abbasids they appeared right after I conquered Ayyubids. |
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Post by stoic on May 17, 2022 0:51:15 GMT
Seljuk Empire - Turn 45 Might be triggered by turn count, the fall of Constantinople to the player's hands or the fall of the Sultanate of Rûm, or a combination of factors. Appears in parts of modern day Iraq that was blocked off.
When I was playing Abbasids they appeared right after I conquered Ayyubids. And when I was playing Sultanate of Rum they didn't appear at all. Probably the destruction of Rum is a trigger. |
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Post by Louis Gabriel Suchet on May 17, 2022 1:58:48 GMT
When I was playing Abbasids they appeared right after I conquered Ayyubids. And when I was playing Sultanate of Rum they didn't appear at all. Probably the destruction of Rum is a trigger. Did you ally with the Ayyubid Dynasty though? I've played Zengid and Ayyubid and they've appeared both times. For Zengid they appeared when I destroyed Ayyubid For Ayyubid they appeared when I destroyed Zengid  |
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Post by Louis Gabriel Suchet on May 17, 2022 2:01:27 GMT
Yes I was plying Zengid Dynasty and allied with the England expedition... Richard just sat in front of Jerusalam and did nothing the entire game. I tried requesting them to fight against the Kingdom of Georgia (25% chance) and Holy Roman Empire (18% chance) but none of my donations ever worked  The percent chance never increased either which is weird. I wonder if it's because I allied with them on like turn 2-3 |
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Post by stoic on May 17, 2022 2:01:29 GMT
And when I was playing Sultanate of Rum they didn't appear at all. Probably the destruction of Rum is a trigger. Did you ally with the Ayyubid Dynasty though? I've played Zengid and Ayyubid and they've appeared both times. For Zengid they appeared when I destroyed Ayyubid For Ayyubid they appeared when I destroyed Zengid No, they were neutral until the very end. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on May 17, 2022 3:12:55 GMT
In the end, I think the Seljuk Empire can be summoned by destroying certain "breakaway" states, dependencies or successors of the Seljuk, practically everyone apart from the Byzantine Empire, Georgia and Crusaders.
Maybe each summon is dependent on the faction you play as or there is a numerical requirement for the number of destroyed states.
What is a guaranteed way is the destruction of either front line state, Rûm and Ayyubid.
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Post by blueberry on May 17, 2022 7:46:00 GMT
Small update:  |
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Post by kingbutawl on May 17, 2022 8:10:25 GMT
Small update: Rapid March is noice! However they could have changed his cavalry skill instead... |
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Post by playeruser37 on May 17, 2022 11:51:25 GMT
Did you ally with the Ayyubid Dynasty though? I've played Zengid and Ayyubid and they've appeared both times. For Zengid they appeared when I destroyed Ayyubid For Ayyubid they appeared when I destroyed Zengid No, they were neutral until the very end. . They declared war to me when i played as of Jerusalem . |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 17, 2022 12:17:58 GMT
Small update: Rapid March is noice! However they could have changed his cavalry skill instead... Eh, It is still good if you go Camel Rider + 2 Elephant Shooters to take advantage of extra mobility and Saladin Bond. |
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Post by andrei on May 17, 2022 12:20:46 GMT
Rapid March is noice! However they could have changed his cavalry skill instead... Eh, It is still good if you go Camel Rider + 2 Elephant Shooters to take advantage of extra mobility and Saladin Bond. I think he is redesigned to have high chance charge cav + elephant archer + camel archer to deal max morale blow. Is his item cav+range? |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 17, 2022 13:20:09 GMT
Eh, It is still good if you go Camel Rider + 2 Elephant Shooters to take advantage of extra mobility and Saladin Bond. I think he is redesigned to have high chance charge cav + elephant archer + camel archer to deal max morale blow. Is his item cav+range? Yup. I would think that he would be better with two archers, and I don't like putting Charge Cav on Archers as I think that they die too easily and fail to protect the Archers. |
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