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Post by JustANormalAccount on Apr 25, 2022 10:27:34 GMT
 (Picture from Khalid Discussion | Credits: 6Johnny23) So Khalid,one of the most famous(yet pretty unkhown in the Western world) Arabic/Islamic commanders in history get "underpowered" in my opinion since Cnut and Harald is way better than him.So in order to make him more "better" so here's my solution: 1: Buff Fatal blow by 2 ways:1 reduce the cooldown and make it's so that it hit multiple time like outburst 2: is make so that deals 25% instead of 20% in the current level of Fatal Blow and ignore 30-50% enemy defense,one hit can remained to keep the balance on it 2:change strategist to either rapid march or master of assault,i'm leaning towards rapid march than master of assault since Khalid already have 2 good infantry skill,if add 3 then it would be too OP and Khalid usually use speed to his advantage to defeat the enemy 3:Give him a unique item,it doesn't have to be too OP or something but it probably would be similar to Narses like increase level of infantry tactican,fatal blow and master swordsman, the attribute is probably either Infantry/Calvary or Infantry/Morale Now if you thinks that is too OP then i have a solution,make it so that he cost the same amount as Roland so that he would be balanced in my opinion [ |
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Post by truhses on Apr 25, 2022 11:03:28 GMT
What for?
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Apr 25, 2022 11:05:22 GMT
What for? answer above T_T |
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Post by onur on Apr 25, 2022 18:11:50 GMT
agree from historical standpoint. he is one of the most decorated generals. i gave feedback to ET on similar thing about timur and subutai. those guys were top of the top in military history, it gives me "what the heck" moments everytime i surf on game's generals page
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Apr 25, 2022 20:18:26 GMT
I completely agree, Khalid was absolutely brilliant and definitely deserved to be above OLGA, or WILLIAM WALLACE of all people. Such a travesty on ET's part. On the other hand, everything must be in moderation: one post in EW5 said that if ET players didn't do anything about that they were privy to Anti-Arab racism.
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Post by blueberry on Apr 25, 2022 23:04:01 GMT
I completely agree, Khalid was absolutely brilliant and definitely deserved to be above OLGA, or WILLIAM WALLACE of all people. Such a travesty on ET's part. On the other hand, everything must be in moderation: one post in EW5 said that if ET players didn't do anything about that they were privy to Anti-Arab racism. Out of curiosity, I tried to find it. Is this what you were referring to? european-war-4.boards.net/thread/12559/arabian-leader-khaldQuite funny... |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Apr 26, 2022 0:55:47 GMT
I completely agree, Khalid was absolutely brilliant and definitely deserved to be above OLGA, or WILLIAM WALLACE of all people. Such a travesty on ET's part. On the other hand, everything must be in moderation: one post in EW5 said that if ET players didn't do anything about that they were privy to Anti-Arab racism. Out of curiosity, I tried to find it. Is this what you were referring to? european-war-4.boards.net/thread/12559/arabian-leader-khaldQuite funny... Yup. That was the one. |
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Post by awsome4444 on Apr 26, 2022 1:35:29 GMT
I agree with the buff. He should be at least be a premium general. Khalid was no doubt one of the greatest generals in history next to Napoleon, Alexander, Sururov, Hannibal, Fredrick the Great, and Arthur Wellsely if not the greatest. He was undefeated in battle and won over 50 major victories. Notably at Yarmruk against a Byzantine army of 120,000 men outnumbering his army of 40,000 by a factor of 3. It is sad that Khaild in EW7 is so weak compared to his achievements in real life.
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Post by truhses on Apr 26, 2022 3:20:20 GMT
The importance of generals in ET games is determined not by talents and victories, but by fame in Western society. Therefore, the "celebrity" of the characters, popularity in Western mass culture is much more important than real merit. Therefore, the legendary generals are the "tough guys" Richard the Lionheart, Attila and Arthur, known to the average American teenager, and not the great commander Khalid ibn al Walid, the Sword of Allah.
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Post by awsome4444 on Apr 26, 2022 3:26:13 GMT
The importance of generals in ET games is determined not by talents and victories, but by fame in Western society. Therefore, the "celebrity" of the characters, popularity in Western mass culture is much more important than real merit. Therefore, the legendary generals are the "tough guys" Richard the Lionheart, Attila and Arthur, known to the average American teenager, and not the great commander Khalid ibn al Walid, the Sword of Allah. Nah the average American teenager don't know shoot about history and don't care either. Ask 100 of them about Richard and only 1 or 2 at most will know. That is why strategy games are declining in popularity. |
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Post by truhses on Apr 26, 2022 3:37:40 GMT
The importance of generals in ET games is determined not by talents and victories, but by fame in Western society. Therefore, the "celebrity" of the characters, popularity in Western mass culture is much more important than real merit. Therefore, the legendary generals are the "tough guys" Richard the Lionheart, Attila and Arthur, known to the average American teenager, and not the great commander Khalid ibn al Walid, the Sword of Allah. Nah the average American teenager don't know shoot about history and don't care either. Ask 100 of them about Richard and only 1 or 2 at most will know. That is why strategy games are declining in popularity. He doesn't even know about Khalid... |
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Post by onur on Apr 26, 2022 8:54:21 GMT
i think justinian is great example for that issue.
he wasn't a general, commander but a king. in the game he has consul usage, admins, other stuff and just mediocre at fights. very well reflected as an important figure.
on the other hand i see some kings, similar to justin has 45-50pts on army types, special weapons, special op units to boost their military talent, yikes. if they have 50, khalid,timur and subutai should start at 60pts stats at least
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Apr 26, 2022 11:31:39 GMT
i think justinian is great example for that issue. he wasn't a general, commander but a king. in the game he has consul usage, admins, other stuff and just mediocre at fights. very well reflected as an important figure. on the other hand i see some kings, similar to justin has 45-50pts on army types, special weapons, special op units to boost their military talent, yikes. if they have 50, khalid,timur and subutai should start at 60pts stats at least Granted, Justinian was a king best known for his internal improvements, while someone like, say, Richard was far and away better known for his military capabilities. In any case, though, Khalid needs to be way stronger. If it is any consolation buddy, everyone used you in EW5. Wait, what is this I hear? They used Cleopatra? Bollocks. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Apr 26, 2022 11:34:24 GMT
The importance of generals in ET games is determined not by talents and victories, but by fame in Western society. Therefore, the "celebrity" of the characters, popularity in Western mass culture is much more important than real merit. Therefore, the legendary generals are the "tough guys" Richard the Lionheart, Attila and Arthur, known to the average American teenager, and not the great commander Khalid ibn al Walid, the Sword of Allah. Nah the average American teenager don't know shoot about history and don't care either. Ask 100 of them about Richard and only 1 or 2 at most will know. That is why strategy games are declining in popularity. Can confirm that this is false. Asked 100 American teenagers on an ET fan site and somehow they all knew who Richard was. In all seriousness, you certainly have a point. At least in my town, history is useless. Why learn that when you could learn how to fix a diesel engine, or drill for petroleum? |
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Post by zink on Apr 26, 2022 13:41:58 GMT
The importance of generals in ET games is determined not by talents and victories, but by fame in Western society. Therefore, the "celebrity" of the characters, popularity in Western mass culture is much more important than real merit. Therefore, the legendary generals are the "tough guys" Richard the Lionheart, Attila and Arthur, known to the average American teenager, and not the great commander Khalid ibn al Walid, the Sword of Allah. No American teenager knew a thing about Olga The game also focused on west Europe and Rome completely, except for a few of the special units How do you know what generals "average American teenagers" know about other than knights and Rome theres no way this applies to all ET games |
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