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Post by zink on Apr 26, 2022 13:48:26 GMT
(Picture from Khalid Discussion | Credits: 6Johnny23 ) So Khalid,one of the most famous(yet pretty unkhown in the Western world) Arabic/Islamic commanders in history get "underpowered" in my opinion since Cnut and Harald is way better than him.So in order to make him more "better" so here's my solution: 1: Buff Fatal blow by 2 ways:1 reduce the cooldown and make it's so that it hit multiple time like outburst 2: is make so that deals 25% instead of 20% in the current level of Fatal Blow and ignore 30-50% enemy defense,one hit can remained to keep the balance on it 2:change strategist to either rapid march or master of assault,i'm leaning towards rapid march than master of assault since Khalid already have 2 good infantry skill,if add 3 then it would be too OP and Khalid usually use speed to his advantage to defeat the enemy 3:Give him a unique item,it doesn't have to be too OP or something but it probably would be similar to Narses like increase level of infantry tactican,fatal blow and master swordsman, the attribute is probably either Infantry/Calvary or Infantry/Morale Now if you thinks that is too OP then i have a solution,make it so that he cost the same amount as Roland so that he would be balanced in my opinion [ Honestly I agree with the current skills that Khalid has because they make sense (even if other generals skills might not), its just that they aren't that great even for a tier 3. Those infantry points should get buffed An item alone would be a gigantic buff (although that special unit would probably be camel riders )
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Apr 26, 2022 13:51:15 GMT
I actually like Camel Riders. Tanky, cheap, easily accessible, very solid skills...
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Apr 26, 2022 13:51:34 GMT
(Picture from Khalid Discussion | Credits: 6Johnny23 ) So Khalid,one of the most famous(yet pretty unkhown in the Western world) Arabic/Islamic commanders in history get "underpowered" in my opinion since Cnut and Harald is way better than him.So in order to make him more "better" so here's my solution: 1: Buff Fatal blow by 2 ways:1 reduce the cooldown and make it's so that it hit multiple time like outburst 2: is make so that deals 25% instead of 20% in the current level of Fatal Blow and ignore 30-50% enemy defense,one hit can remained to keep the balance on it 2:change strategist to either rapid march or master of assault,i'm leaning towards rapid march than master of assault since Khalid already have 2 good infantry skill,if add 3 then it would be too OP and Khalid usually use speed to his advantage to defeat the enemy 3:Give him a unique item,it doesn't have to be too OP or something but it probably would be similar to Narses like increase level of infantry tactican,fatal blow and master swordsman, the attribute is probably either Infantry/Calvary or Infantry/Morale Now if you thinks that is too OP then i have a solution,make it so that he cost the same amount as Roland so that he would be balanced in my opinion [ Honestly I agree with the current skills that Khalid has because they make sense (even if other generals skills might not), its just that they aren't that great even for a tier 3. Those infantry points should get buffed An item alone would be a gigantic buff (although that special unit would probably be camel riders ) I mostly agree on your opinion but imo item aren't really THAT decisive if you can't upgrade it high enough and have the correct general to put in so that it doesn't give half of the skill and attributes it gets
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Post by zink on Apr 26, 2022 13:55:57 GMT
I actually like Camel Riders. Tanky, cheap, easily accessible, very solid skills... You like defending unpopular opinions like melee cav, wc4 infantry, and Ushijima SOLID skills? you outta yo mind
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Post by zink on Apr 26, 2022 13:59:52 GMT
Honestly I agree with the current skills that Khalid has because they make sense (even if other generals skills might not), its just that they aren't that great even for a tier 3. Those infantry points should get buffed An item alone would be a gigantic buff (although that special unit would probably be camel riders ) I mostly agree on your opinion but imo item aren't really THAT decisive if you can't upgrade it high enough and have the correct general to put in so that it doesn't give half of the skill and attributes it gets One major thing is that he's also expensive for what he offers take Alfred who is one the best gens in the game and completely f2p, hes only around 1400 I do agree fatal blow should get a buff, its very weak for the fact that its every 5 turns I'd much rather take abilities that decrease cooldown when they upgrade
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Apr 26, 2022 14:06:16 GMT
I mostly agree on your opinion but imo item aren't really THAT decisive if you can't upgrade it high enough and have the correct general to put in so that it doesn't give half of the skill and attributes it gets One major thing is that he's also expensive for what he offers take Alfred who is one the best gens in the game and completely f2p, hes only around 1400 I do agree fatal blow should get a buff, its very weak for the fact that its every 5 turns I'd much rather take abilities that decrease cooldown when they upgrade That's don't seems weird for me since usually high stats general will get balanced by high heraldy rank so that they won't have too much stat for all skill so I guess that the reason why Khalid is so expensive,but Alfred just kinda broke this rule soo
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Apr 26, 2022 14:08:51 GMT
I actually like Camel Riders. Tanky, cheap, easily accessible, very solid skills... You like defending unpopular opinions like melee cav, wc4 infantry, and Ushijima SOLID skills? you outta yo mind If this was elephant riders then I kinda agree since if a general have outburst on and elephant attack multiple times then the enemy pretty much went into shattered morale(expect for some special cases)
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Post by zink on Apr 26, 2022 14:20:18 GMT
You like defending unpopular opinions like melee cav, wc4 infantry, and Ushijima SOLID skills? you outta yo mind If this was elephant riders then I kinda agree since if a general have outburst on and elephant attack multiple times then the enemy pretty much went into shattered morale(expect for some special cases) Elephants also have a hidden damage reduction stat, I think its 20%?
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Apr 26, 2022 14:21:28 GMT
If this was elephant riders then I kinda agree since if a general have outburst on and elephant attack multiple times then the enemy pretty much went into shattered morale(expect for some special cases) Elephants also have a hidden damage reduction stat, I think its 20%? you mean the deterrence stat that reduces 15% damage from infantry?
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Post by zink on Apr 26, 2022 14:26:26 GMT
Elephants also have a hidden damage reduction stat, I think its 20%? you mean the deterrence stat that reduces 15% damage from infantry? No, I tested it with a 100 defense camel rider and 100 defense elephant and the elephant took less damage
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Apr 26, 2022 14:27:30 GMT
you mean the deterrence stat that reduces 15% damage from infantry? No, I tested it with a 100 defense camel rider and 100 defense elephant and the elephant took less damage well I guess it's due to the Lv and counter difference
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Post by zink on Apr 26, 2022 14:35:22 GMT
No, I tested it with a 100 defense camel rider and 100 defense elephant and the elephant took less damage well I guess it's due to the Lv and counter difference Camel rider was level 3 in order to match the elephants level 1 defense
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Post by zink on Apr 26, 2022 14:35:45 GMT
Ill test it with higher levels
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Apr 26, 2022 14:36:49 GMT
well I guess it's due to the Lv and counter difference Camel rider was level 3 in order to match the elephants level 1 defense i give up, I don't have any ideas how this works
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Post by kingbutawl on Apr 26, 2022 14:42:03 GMT
Easytech has enough time to make some adjustments (Khalid should be buffed). I think Easytech should invest in top-shelf historical description (or better than now) to compete with other video-ludic titles, outclassing them. Sometimes it is better to learn and teach history in these games than in dusty grey classes.
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