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Post by nikomachos on May 22, 2022 21:43:07 GMT
All the hype went to baldwins skill bc barbarossas support kinda stinks... and is only good for hard "protect the target missions" ... Well. If you Spawn deploy barbarossa in campaign and conquest you have the potential to utalize 1 (f2p) or 2 (PoH) more weapon buffs from mercenary units than you could otherwise. Example f2p: usually you would spawn alfred on 3 noble cav i guess. instead in Castle put on Barb: 1 noble cav. 2 Varangians. Spawn Barb. Support noble cav unit to alfred. put theodora or other calmness gen on lowest unit, reset barb. support 1 varangian to basil. If you have his unique weapon for teutons PoH you better have richard or a unit that places itself in front of teutons, so that you can give it away and keep 1 teuton as last unit giving barb his own buff. exp 1 templer, 1 noble, 1 teutonic. caesar to reset first turn. you probably hardly lost any time since you did this in an instant. Cons: but might have sacreficed some movement to get to Barb and accept the unit gift. might have dissmissed some unit to accept gift if there werent any 2 unit legions around. p2p now did not deploy richard with 3 templars bc it doesnt work with backrow units like mamluks and ravenna, since you want barbarossa to keep his teutons and they are in front. you can also just do it once for alfred though or arthur. p2p player has now potentially 5 units with an active unique weapon. 3 with barb and 2 privelege spawned. (the ranged ones, backrow) f2p has 2 active weapons and 1 unit thats kinda wastes on barb... so maybe more effective for conquest only, bc alfred 3 noble cav is overkill anyway most of the time.
What do you think? Have you done this a lot or some experience? Worth it as f2p?
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 22, 2022 21:47:14 GMT
Yup, I use Barb as a ferry of units much of the time, and he is IMO the best support gen in the game. However, it hurts because he is also the best melee cav in the game for POH players, so he is good, but you don't want to give up that unit.
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Post by Dannes on May 22, 2022 22:23:01 GMT
Yup, I use Barb as a ferry of units much of the time, and he is IMO the best support gen in the game. However, it hurts because he is also the best melee cav in the game for POH players, so he is good, but you don't want to give up that unit. This actually, I often just go deliver a Noble Cav to either Baldwin or Alfred after their frontliner die, it's also kind a hard heal on that unit since it heals to max when you do so there's that
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Post by nikomachos on May 23, 2022 17:39:39 GMT
Yup, I use Barb as a ferry of units much of the time, and he is IMO the best support gen in the game. However, it hurts because he is also the best melee cav in the game for POH players, so he is good, but you don't want to give up that unit. This actually, I often just go deliver a Noble Cav to either Baldwin or Alfred after their frontliner die, it's also kind a hard heal on that unit since it heals to max when you do so there's that i agree. it works fine to replenish a dmg dealer if one unit dies. but i was hoping for more oppinions on using barb to activate more than 1 weapon bonus. since he can activate 2 buffs just in 1 round. that you use him on for example alfred who does not already have noble cav. especcially p2p seems to profit much in theory imo.
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Post by kingbutawl on May 23, 2022 18:33:44 GMT
Barbarossa is a 4/5 f2p cav general, bro. 105 cav points are good. I use him with “Joyeuse” and Gallic warhorse, then a +10% defence. I’d say he’s actually better than Simeon who was shrinked pretty bad...
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Post by nikomachos on May 23, 2022 20:21:33 GMT
Barbarossa is a 4/5 f2p cav general, bro. 105 cav points are good. I use him with “Joyeuse” and Gallic warhorse, then a +10% defence. I’d say he’s actually better than Simeon who was shrinked pretty bad... i too argued that he is great. only for different reasons than you i guess.
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on May 23, 2022 21:57:29 GMT
Barbarossa is a 4/5 f2p cav general, bro. 105 cav points are good. I use him with “Joyeuse” and Gallic warhorse, then a +10% defence. I’d say he’s actually better than Simeon who was shrinked pretty bad... El Sid is the best of the best...
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