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Post by Colonia on May 24, 2022 10:19:40 GMT
I have purchased Richard and Saladin. Both have weapons, unlock amazing units and a great privelege. Is there any other IAP general that comes close to their value? I have most of the good f2p generals already.
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Post by andrei on May 24, 2022 11:54:25 GMT
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Post by Colonia on May 24, 2022 12:39:57 GMT
Thanks for sharing. But that thread mostly goes into a Templars vs Mamluks rant. I think both units are great and provide great value. But I'm debating adding another general for combat usage. Attila is the one that temps me the most. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 24, 2022 13:29:19 GMT
Attila is by far the best in terms of damage and combat ability, even better than Richard. However, you REALLY want Charlie's privilege, and Otto is a great combatant. Arthur is the worst, but the only one who can really use Counter Infantry. As for Olga, she is very strong in Conquests and Territory, but she is only Belisarius Level in Campaigns.
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Post by zink on May 24, 2022 13:32:23 GMT
I have purchased Richard and Saladin. Both have weapons, unlock amazing units and a great privelege. Is there any other IAP general that comes close to their value? I have most of the good f2p generals already. Attila is goated in terms of fighting ability with an okay privilege Charlemagne has a great privilege but he's a pretty mid general for the cost of Richard Otto is sort of like his infantry counterpart Matilda goated privilege |
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Post by truhses on May 24, 2022 14:35:37 GMT
Attila unambiguously and categorically in the first place. 2nd place is shared by the privileges of Charles and Matilda, as generals they are below average. Matilda's privilege - buy the sooner the better. Carl's Privilege - Not really needed now, but will most likely be needed in the future.
The rest... (Hannibal and Napoleon laugh)
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 24, 2022 15:08:30 GMT
Attila unambiguously and categorically in the first place. 2nd place is shared by the privileges of Charles and Matilda, as generals they are below average. Matilda's privilege - buy the sooner the better. Carl's Privilege - Not really needed now, but will most likely be needed in the future. The rest... (Hannibal and Napoleon laugh) They are all excellent generals with great price performance, but they are nowhere near as dominating as previous games were. |
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Post by zink on May 24, 2022 15:32:56 GMT
Attila unambiguously and categorically in the first place. 2nd place is shared by the privileges of Charles and Matilda, as generals they are below average. Matilda's privilege - buy the sooner the better. Carl's Privilege - Not really needed now, but will most likely be needed in the future. The rest... (Hannibal and Napoleon laugh) They are all excellent generals with great price performance, but they are nowhere near as dominating as previous games were. yup charles was absolutely goated in ew5 right |
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Post by truhses on May 24, 2022 15:33:59 GMT
Attila unambiguously and categorically in the first place. 2nd place is shared by the privileges of Charles and Matilda, as generals they are below average. Matilda's privilege - buy the sooner the better. Carl's Privilege - Not really needed now, but will most likely be needed in the future. The rest... (Hannibal and Napoleon laugh) They are all excellent generals with great price performance, but they are nowhere near as dominating as previous games were. Compared to John Armenin they are excellent generals (Hannibal and Napoleon laugh again). Jokes aside.I respect your tolerant view, but people want simple answers to simple questions. Who is OP and who is garbage. Here's a fact without ratings or labels: I have all the starting IAPs (without Matilda and Otto). Of these, I actively use Richard, Saladin and Attila. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 24, 2022 15:41:32 GMT
I have all the IAPs except for Matilda, and I use all of them as much as possible. I deploy Saladin, Attila, and Olga/Charlemagne/Arthur. There is more nuance in this game than good/bad dichotomy.
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Post by truhses on May 24, 2022 15:57:21 GMT
I have all the IAPs except for Matilda, and I use all of them as much as possible. I deploy Saladin, Attila, and Olga/Charlemagne/Arthur. There is more nuance in this game than good/bad dichotomy. I use everyone too, even Arthur because of the bond. But there are better f2p options. Olga: Justinian + Theodora is better. Carl: A lot of speedy mixed generals are better. Arthur: John the Armenian is better!? 😬 (Hannibal and Napoleon in hysterics) I agree with you about the nuances, but here the question is real money. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 24, 2022 16:12:22 GMT
I have all the IAPs except for Matilda, and I use all of them as much as possible. I deploy Saladin, Attila, and Olga/Charlemagne/Arthur. There is more nuance in this game than good/bad dichotomy. I use everyone too, even Arthur because of the bond. But there are better f2p options. Olga: Justinian + Theodora is better. Carl: A lot of speedy mixed generals are better. Arthur: John the Armenian is better!? 😬 (Hannibal and Napoleon in hysterics) I agree with you about the nuances, but here the question is real money. Olga: No, she has good combat value as well as a high amount of extra income due to admin points. Charlie: That is absolutely false. He is the top Melee Cav gen as of right now. He gets bonus cav points and reduction from his item, he is, as said fast, he has an item, he is the only one with a level 4 Forced March, and both his terrains are solid. In addition, his privilege is fantastic. Arthur: As you said, his bond is invaluable, and his weapon is strong, and like I said, he is the only one who can use Counter Infantry well other than Belisarius if you bought POH. Lastly, you get Guinivere for fee with him and get to have a level 2 Fortification Expert. These IMO make up for his otherwise bad skills, stats, and privilege. |
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Post by truhses on May 24, 2022 16:56:26 GMT
I use everyone too, even Arthur because of the bond. But there are better f2p options. Olga: Justinian + Theodora is better. Carl: A lot of speedy mixed generals are better. Arthur: John the Armenian is better!? 😬 (Hannibal and Napoleon in hysterics) I agree with you about the nuances, but here the question is real money. Olga: No, she has good combat value as well as a high amount of extra income due to admin points. Charlie: That is absolutely false. He is the top Melee Cav gen as of right now. He gets bonus cav points and reduction from his item, he is, as said fast, he has an item, he is the only one with a level 4 Forced March, and both his terrains are solid. In addition, his privilege is fantastic. Arthur: As you said, his bond is invaluable, and his weapon is strong, and like I said, he is the only one who can use Counter Infantry well other than Belisarius if you bought POH. Lastly, you get Guinivere for fee with him and get to have a level 2 Fortification Expert. These IMO make up for his otherwise bad skills, stats, and privilege. That's right, they're good guys... Olga is an excellent administrator, but Justinian is a top consul. Karl is an excellent cavalryman, but it is doubtful to bet on melee cavalry in anything other than conquest. Perhaps in the future melee cavalry will sparkle.... Arthur... hmm... didn't see him as a counter-infantry since I have Belisarius and Caesar. Counter-infantry is certainly useful, but not impressive ... Fortification expert is not garbage, it's nothing. But in general, I repeat, a good guy. Yes, they are all good, but you need the best ... |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 24, 2022 17:44:20 GMT
Olga: No, she has good combat value as well as a high amount of extra income due to admin points. Charlie: That is absolutely false. He is the top Melee Cav gen as of right now. He gets bonus cav points and reduction from his item, he is, as said fast, he has an item, he is the only one with a level 4 Forced March, and both his terrains are solid. In addition, his privilege is fantastic. Arthur: As you said, his bond is invaluable, and his weapon is strong, and like I said, he is the only one who can use Counter Infantry well other than Belisarius if you bought POH. Lastly, you get Guinivere for fee with him and get to have a level 2 Fortification Expert. These IMO make up for his otherwise bad skills, stats, and privilege. That's right, they're good guys... Olga is an excellent administrator, but Justinian is a top consul. Karl is an excellent cavalryman, but it is doubtful to bet on melee cavalry in anything other than conquest. Perhaps in the future melee cavalry will sparkle... Yes, they are all good, but you need the best ... 1. I will maintain to my deathbed that Olga is a better Consul than Justinian considering her Admin points combined with the Negotiation Expert IMO beat Lobbyist. 2. Melee Cav are the only Non-Range units that can actually both survive and deal good damage. They are all rounders, which work just as well as the glass cannon charge cav. 3. Well, considering that there are like 6 Premium gens we can get, with only 2 more coming in the near future, You don't even have to be good to be one of the best. All you need is a Hero Legend and an item. |
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Post by andrei on May 24, 2022 17:51:54 GMT
That's right, they're good guys... Olga is an excellent administrator, but Justinian is a top consul. Karl is an excellent cavalryman, but it is doubtful to bet on melee cavalry in anything other than conquest. Perhaps in the future melee cavalry will sparkle... Yes, they are all good, but you need the best ... 1. I will maintain to my deathbed that Olga is a better Consul than Justinian considering her Admin points combined with the Negotiation Expert IMO beat Lobbyist. 2. Melee Cav are the only Non-Range units that can actually both survive and deal good damage. They are all rounders, which work just as well as the glass cannon charge cav. 3. Well, considering that there are like 6 Premium gens we can get, with only 2 more coming in the near future, You don't even have to be good to be one of the best. All you need is a Hero Legend and an item. Negotiation skill You only need for the turn You negotiate. Just for 1 turn. It can't beat Justinian's every turn relations increase. Just another league. You simply don't need to bribe most of the nations by the end of the conquest with his skill. Just to conclude an agreement. And if speaking about the negotiations Olga is not the best as well. Like Matilda adds +5 relations with every bribe. And iirc Narses adds +2 with every bribe, so Olga is worse than them for negotiations. |
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