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Post by ษชสสสแด๊ฑแด ษชแดส แด แดษด แดษชษดแดขสแดสษด on May 27, 2022 1:03:05 GMT
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Post by Dannes on May 27, 2022 10:39:19 GMT
Amazing cav gen for his tier, bad item though. Why franks axemen? It's terrible
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Post by stoic on May 27, 2022 11:18:33 GMT
Amazing cav gen for his tier, bad item though. Why franks axemen? It's terrible We can't expect that a silver tier general (whose price is less than 1000 medals) will command t6 unit, can we  On a positive side we aren't obligated to use Frankish axemen at all costs. It is quite tricky to make use out of his ranged/cavalry talents, but it is possible. Lvl 4 Cavalry expert skill (if a Norman war horse is equipped) makes him one of the best charging cavalry generals in the game. 100% probability to charge with cataphracts and 80% probability to charge with Noble cavalry. It is also possible to decrease the cooldown of his Headhunting to 2 turns. Again, it is a very good ability if our general has 100% probability to charge (or close to it). So we have a maximum possible output every two turns. But since ET decided to make him an archer we have to add some archers to his legion. I think that they shouldn't be significantly slower than his charging or melee cavalry. So, I am personally waiting for Mongols. I believe "mounted archers plus charging or melee cavalry" is a very promising combination for Martel. His special unit will only slow him down, imo. |
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Post by Dannes on May 27, 2022 16:28:33 GMT
Amazing cav gen for his tier, bad item though. Why franks axemen? It's terrible We can't expect that a silver tier general (whose price is less than 1000 medals) will command t6 unit, can we On a positive side we aren't obligated to use Frankish axemen at all costs. It is quite tricky to make use out of his ranged/cavalry talents, but it is possible. Lvl 4 Cavalry expert skill (if a Norman war horse is equipped) makes him one of the best charging cavalry generals in the game. 100% probability to charge with cataphracts and 80% probability to charge with Noble cavalry. It is also possible to decrease the cooldown of his Headhunting to 2 turns. Again, it is a very good ability if our general has 100% probability to charge (or close to it). So we have a maximum possible output every two turns. But since ET decided to make him an archer we have to add some archers to his legion. I think that they shouldn't be significantly slower than his charging or melee cavalry. So, I am personally waiting for Mongols. I believe "mounted archers plus charging or melee cavalry" is a very promising combination for Martel. His special unit will only slow him down, imo. Yeah you're right on that, just sad that Martel is being more or less an archer gen with charge cav bonus Speaking of a sub 1k gen having a t6, Matilda, the opposite, exists lol |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 27, 2022 17:50:48 GMT
We can't expect that a silver tier general (whose price is less than 1000 medals) will command t6 unit, can we On a positive side we aren't obligated to use Frankish axemen at all costs. It is quite tricky to make use out of his ranged/cavalry talents, but it is possible. Lvl 4 Cavalry expert skill (if a Norman war horse is equipped) makes him one of the best charging cavalry generals in the game. 100% probability to charge with cataphracts and 80% probability to charge with Noble cavalry. It is also possible to decrease the cooldown of his Headhunting to 2 turns. Again, it is a very good ability if our general has 100% probability to charge (or close to it). So we have a maximum possible output every two turns. But since ET decided to make him an archer we have to add some archers to his legion. I think that they shouldn't be significantly slower than his charging or melee cavalry. So, I am personally waiting for Mongols. I believe "mounted archers plus charging or melee cavalry" is a very promising combination for Martel. His special unit will only slow him down, imo. Yeah you're right on that, just sad that Martel is being more or less an archer gen with charge cav bonus Speaking of a sub 1k gen having a t6, Matilda, the opposite, exists lol Same with Robyn Hoode and Mel Gibson. |
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Post by stoic on May 27, 2022 18:44:44 GMT
We can't expect that a silver tier general (whose price is less than 1000 medals) will command t6 unit, can we On a positive side we aren't obligated to use Frankish axemen at all costs. It is quite tricky to make use out of his ranged/cavalry talents, but it is possible. Lvl 4 Cavalry expert skill (if a Norman war horse is equipped) makes him one of the best charging cavalry generals in the game. 100% probability to charge with cataphracts and 80% probability to charge with Noble cavalry. It is also possible to decrease the cooldown of his Headhunting to 2 turns. Again, it is a very good ability if our general has 100% probability to charge (or close to it). So we have a maximum possible output every two turns. But since ET decided to make him an archer we have to add some archers to his legion. I think that they shouldn't be significantly slower than his charging or melee cavalry. So, I am personally waiting for Mongols. I believe "mounted archers plus charging or melee cavalry" is a very promising combination for Martel. His special unit will only slow him down, imo. Yeah you're right on that, just sad that Martel is being more or less an archer gen with charge cav bonus Speaking of a sub 1k gen having a t6, Matilda, the opposite, exists lol Social ladder works in EW7 only in one direction: you can command a trash unit being an IAP general, but you can't command a good unit being a silver tier general  |
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Post by kingbutawl on May 28, 2022 10:52:51 GMT
Each cav gen with damage reduction special item is a gift.
The only problem here is the lack of a decent amount of cavalry points, which is to be solved with some f2p "adjustments".
I think El Cid on cav focused points might be better than him. We will make some tests, later, because Martel has always intrigued me.
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Post by ๐๐ฒ๐ผ๐ช๐ด๐ช on Jul 27, 2022 20:11:19 GMT
Now Martel has Master Shooter Level 2 in the new update
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Post by nimrael on Jul 28, 2022 6:08:58 GMT
Why does he now have master Shooter? Frankish Axeman dont get the extra DMG? Doesnt they need master skirmisher?
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Post by verily on Jul 28, 2022 6:34:12 GMT
Why does he now have master Shooter? Frankish Axeman dont get the extra DMG? Doesnt they need master skirmisher? They mixed it up, it's still have no bonus. |
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Post by Dannes on Jul 28, 2022 16:14:50 GMT
Martel went from good to okish to a Frankenstein's monster of a gen
WHAT ARE YOU MARTEL??
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Jul 28, 2022 21:20:21 GMT
1 from 9 f2p generals with unique weapons which we can get at this moment. Must have for f2p players.
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Post by kingbutawl on Aug 9, 2022 19:22:20 GMT
1 from 9 f2p generals with unique weapons which we can get at this moment. Must have for f2p players. To me heโs not a must have at the beginning of the game, where you can get El Cid and other more valiant generals. However Martel is strong enough leading a triple mamluk legion (on par with Saladin). We can say that Martel is a F2P Saladin, with a damage reduction unique item (which is not the best for archery, but surely a great aid regarding survivability). I know for sure they are working on the idea of a hero legend designed for Martel and at that point we would be talking of a must have! (Even of I think theyโll raise his price...). I suggest not using frank axemen on him, since theyโre a shisshy unit. Give him the same setup of Timur and youโll be greatly satisfied with this cheap Saladin  |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Aug 9, 2022 19:24:15 GMT
1 from 9 f2p generals with unique weapons which we can get at this moment. Must have for f2p players. To me heโs not a must have at the beginning of the game, where you can get El Cid and other more valiant generals. However Martel is strong enough leading a triple mamluk legion (on par with Saladin). We can say that Martel is a F2P Saladin, with a damage reduction unique item (which is not the best for archery, but surely a great aid regarding survivability). I know for sure they are working on the idea of a hero legend designed for Martel and at that point we would be talking of a must have! (Even of I think theyโll raise his price...). I suggest not using frank axemen on him, since theyโre a shisshy unit. Give him the same setup of Timur and youโll be greatly satisfied with this cheap Saladin I'm use him as charge cavalry general.  PS. He easy can reach 104 cavalry points with gems and good damage reduction, we are still short of good charge general at this moment, Nevsky and Alfred, Chinese general and Edward we don't have unique weapon at this moment, Edward now better as infantry general, and we have second Timur - Nur Din. |
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Post by stoic on Aug 9, 2022 19:37:13 GMT
I prefer to take good of both worlds . My legion of Martel is one unit of Noble cavalry and two Imperial bowmen. I haven't upgraded his item yet, so use him mainly in conquests. |
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On a positive side we aren't obligated to use Frankish axemen at all costs. It is quite tricky to make use out of his ranged/cavalry talents, but it is possible. Lvl 4 Cavalry expert skill (if a Norman war horse is equipped) makes him one of the best charging cavalry generals in the game. 100% probability to charge with cataphracts and 80% probability to charge with Noble cavalry. It is also possible to decrease the cooldown of his Headhunting to 2 turns. Again, it is a very good ability if our general has 100% probability to charge (or close to it). So we have a maximum possible output every two turns. But since ET decided to make him an archer we have to add some archers to his legion. I think that they shouldn't be significantly slower than his charging or melee cavalry. So, I am personally waiting for Mongols. I believe "mounted archers plus charging or melee cavalry" is a very promising combination for Martel. His special unit will only slow him down, imo.
