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Post by stoic on Dec 15, 2022 14:29:03 GMT
It's the usual lull in between updates Probably I should consider myself lucky for I have still 28 nations left for hegemony in century of iron. But motivation is low... True. I completed only the nations of Eastern Mediterranean. The predictability of results makes the process extremely boring. I really think they shouldn't have removed their traditional system of alliances. They could have created more than usual two sides, but they decided to remove it completely, unfortunately. Now the player isn't in any real danger, even when playing for weak 1* nations.
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Post by Ralyks on Dec 17, 2022 21:56:45 GMT
You're not because I guess you use Justinian, but if you were not using it, most factions will be far more hard/challenging.
Some factions will fall on a run and some others will, and they are easy to spot as its normally when they reach 3 foes to fight (because they wont have Justinian and their relations are coded to slowly decay).
Thanks best75 for the feedback. Indeed, out of my early testing, the turn 6 and 12 invaders seem consistent. Papal States is also v expensive to befriend and they just sit there doing pretty much nothing most of the game, which sucks as noone will ask to join against them or take them down. But it holds Rome, which is needed for a few level 4 titles, and like it was already mentioned, declaring war on them will have most of the Christendom declare war on you. Literally turn 20 RN and they're still neutral with everyone. There has to be an easier way, this faction is just a nuisance.
On this run I'm trying to befriend to then ask them to join war against the Kingdom of Italy, and finance the Kingdom of Italy so that it can win and take Rome, and then I take it back but for me. This way I can have Rome without having half of the map declare war on me, lets see if it works.
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Post by best75 on Dec 17, 2022 23:54:08 GMT
In my current West Francia game. While gifts do not improve relation with the Buyid Dynasty, the relation improved naturally and I was able to get a alliance with them. I said earlier that East Francia will become the HRE on turn 23 but I will have to revise that. It always became the HRE on turn 23 in my previous games but I had a suspicion and wonder if there was a city requirement. Here I left East Francia with only its capital of Hamburg and it did not become the HRE on turn 23. So there appears to be a city requirement for East Francia and it can become the HRE if met on turn 23 (IRL Otto was crowned Emperor in 962 and the turn phase 23-24 corresponds to that time). I will leave my cities for East Francia to take back and see what happens.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Dec 18, 2022 6:32:32 GMT
Ralyks, who are you playing as? If a player has more than approximately -20 diplomatic points and improving relations with any state, it should be enough to prevent blackmail and declarations of war. Which means a big war chest to pay our way out is one way to deter further hostilities when fighting the Papal States. Of course, I am curious as to whether your plan would work, but I believe Bavaria, Hungary and other nearby states would move troops against Italy soon.
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Post by conkueror on Dec 18, 2022 12:07:36 GMT
Few things about earlier posts: yes, if you have good enough relations with others, they won't necessarily declare war to you. Just lose some. So if you need Rome for title, just leave it last, ally everyone left first, then take it and finish the game.
And with g.w. ambassador lvl2 you CAN improve relations with Buyids and anyone else. Always. It is only +5 at highest price, but once you have either conquered or allied everyone else, you can easily ally nation like that from the other side of the map, sp you don't have to move your troops all the way there. Saves a lot of time.
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Post by Ralyks on Dec 18, 2022 21:50:04 GMT
Ralyks , who are you playing as? If a player has more than approximately -20 diplomatic points and improving relations with any state, it should be enough to prevent blackmail and declarations of war. Which means a big war chest to pay our way out is one way to deter further hostilities when fighting the Papal States. Of course, I am curious as to whether your plan would work, but I believe Bavaria, Hungary and other nearby states would move troops against Italy soon. Byzantine Empire. This is how its currently going. I want to take the chance to get the Roman Empire title on this one, as it seems like one of the best (if not the best) faction to get this title. That's why I will likely set up some fights against Papal States, but never declare war myself. Also, did anyone test what happens if you step over their ground while being neutral so that they get mad and eventually declare war on you? As they declared war on you instead of the other way round, does this bring the rest of Christendom against you or not? If no replies, I will test it when my Byzantine run is finished.
So y, Byzantine is my 3 star run. My 2 star was Kingdom of Leon (I wanted to experience the "Reconquista" haha) and my 1 star was Gaels (but probably Danes is easier). I will try other factions after, but I do always do a 3 star, 2 star and 1 star run first.
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Post by best75 on Dec 18, 2022 23:58:40 GMT
I become the Western Roman Empire here. The Byzantines get mad. I declared war on Papal States to get Rome. As mentioned above, you can prevent the Christian nations declaring war on you by having high relations or give gifts to a safe relation ship point. Here I have East Francia becoming the HRE on turn 37, they just taken Prague. So I think the conditions for East Francia to become the HRE is to have at least 8 cities and after turn 23. I am trying to recall my previous conquests and East Francia's initial war against the duchy of Lotharingia and Franconia, East Francia always won against them.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Dec 19, 2022 11:57:04 GMT
Ralyks, if we step on a neutral state's territory when it already owns it (stepping on land captured in the recent AI turn does not count), I think there is a -10 point penalty. Not sure if any policy, like that which reduces point deduction, will have any effect. Interesting test, but you'll need to keep intruding on neutral ground and push relations to blackmail worthy levels or within a state of open hostility.
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Post by godfrey on Dec 28, 2022 13:27:32 GMT
Hey guys… Does anyone have problems with Iron Century, when the game is throwing you out constantly without saving your process? It’s impossible to run Hamdini dynasty for example - this bug is happening every turn… I’m playing the game from its start (almost a year now) - never faced with this till now!
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Dec 28, 2022 15:39:22 GMT
Hey guys… Does anyone have problems with Iron Century, when the game is throwing you out constantly without saving your process? It’s impossible to run Hamdini dynasty for example - this bug is happening every turn… I’m playing the game from its start (almost a year now) - never faced with this till now! Have you tried a different belligerent? It was my first run which I played right after the era's eelease. I wasn't affected if it was caused by a bug in a later update
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Post by stoic on Dec 28, 2022 16:28:13 GMT
Hey guys… Does anyone have problems with Iron Century, when the game is throwing you out constantly without saving your process? It’s impossible to run Hamdini dynasty for example - this bug is happening every turn… I’m playing the game from its start (almost a year now) - never faced with this till now! I just have played it for the first time but haven't experienced any technical problems
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Post by arthurweasley on Dec 29, 2022 12:08:09 GMT
Kingdom of Gaels, Century of Iron 939 AD Good location, what do you do first is take dublin, for some reason york did not fall so take it with your fast general, then take over britain isles, with this you have good economy to conquer whenever you want, i suggest you to attack danes first then east francia, cause they are so annoying with that horde of unit, but you can also wait with attacking france first because east francia have many enemies, but this is up to you.
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Post by mrlamo on Jan 9, 2023 12:08:26 GMT
The level in conquest has increased no ? I got some general who die now lol
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Jan 9, 2023 12:24:33 GMT
The level in conquest has increased no ? I got some general who die now lol Was your gen attacking a city and the enemy had a garrison and some field troops? Trying to sack Constantinople but I keep losing troops so I resorted to besieging it on numerous occasions.
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Post by stoic on Jan 9, 2023 13:20:01 GMT
Justinian won't help much in challenge conquests
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