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Post by stoic on Aug 13, 2022 14:50:59 GMT
It is very intriguing but I still don't have a clear answer to the question: what is the point of grinding?
New conquests are great, but they don't require lvl 15 troops (moreover they are even forbidden to use).
In campaigns we can use only one "special guest" general (players with Charlemagne two). So, the impact of lvl 15 units is great but still limited because we need 3 elite units at most, not 33.
We are running out of special chapters (especially f2p players). The remaining number of famous generals with special chapters is 4 or 5. Robert the Bruce, Joan (IAP), Edward (IAP), Wallace (IAP) probably Suleman...
So, there are only 2 places where we can use variety of different troops: Territory mode and Treasure missions. Imo, it is not enough to justify the insane grinding.
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Aug 13, 2022 14:58:58 GMT
It is very intriguing but I still don't have a clear answer to the question: what is the point of grinding? New conquests are great, but they don't require lvl 15 troops (moreover they are even forbidden to use). In campaigns we can use only one "special guest" general (players with Charlemagne two). So, the impact of lvl 15 units is great but still limited because we need 3 elite units at most, not 33. We are running out of special chapters (especially f2p players). The remaining number of famous generals with special chapters is 2 or 3. Robert the Bruce, Joan, probably Suleman... So, there are only 2 places where we can use variety of different troops: Territory mode and Treasure missions. Imo, it is not enough to justify the insane grinding. 33 units lvl 6 and 5-6 lvl 18?! |
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Post by stoic on Aug 13, 2022 15:25:03 GMT
It is very intriguing but I still don't have a clear answer to the question: what is the point of grinding? New conquests are great, but they don't require lvl 15 troops (moreover they are even forbidden to use). In campaigns we can use only one "special guest" general (players with Charlemagne two). So, the impact of lvl 15 units is great but still limited because we need 3 elite units at most, not 33. We are running out of special chapters (especially f2p players). The remaining number of famous generals with special chapters is 2 or 3. Robert the Bruce, Joan, probably Suleman... So, there are only 2 places where we can use variety of different troops: Territory mode and Treasure missions. Imo, it is not enough to justify the insane grinding. 33 units lvl 6 and 5-6 lvl 18?! Truth be told we can be perfectly fine with 5-6 lvl 18 units. What is the purpose of other 33 units, I ask... |
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Post by playeruser37 on Aug 13, 2022 15:32:10 GMT
So Li Shimin will be a gold general
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Post by andrei on Aug 13, 2022 15:40:05 GMT
It is very intriguing but I still don't have a clear answer to the question: what is the point of grinding? New conquests are great, but they don't require lvl 15 troops (moreover they are even forbidden to use). In campaigns we can use only one "special guest" general (players with Charlemagne two). So, the impact of lvl 15 units is great but still limited because we need 3 elite units at most, not 33. We are running out of special chapters (especially f2p players). The remaining number of famous generals with special chapters is 4 or 5. Robert the Bruce, Joan (IAP), Edward (IAP), Wallace (IAP) probably Suleman... So, there are only 2 places where we can use variety of different troops: Territory mode and Treasure missions. Imo, it is not enough to justify the insane grinding. As I understand they are going to support the game for quite a long time. I started to think that there will be no sequel like EW6:1914. They will probably implement the sequel in this game later on. |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Aug 13, 2022 15:52:12 GMT
33 units lvl 6 and 5-6 lvl 18?! Truth be told we can be perfectly fine with 5-6 lvl 18 units. What is the purpose of other 33 units, I ask... Like any other collectables games, because want, can and do this. PS. And because we need Subutai weapon, now lvl 37, only 13 lvl for this.  PPS. Subutai second best archer general for f2p after Timur with his unique weapon, El Sid can be infantry general now, with rapid March of course he is best archery general. Li Jing second cavalry general after Nevsky. Hardrada without weapon one of best infantry general. I decide not to buy one of them right now, because I have a lot good infantry generals, and without unique weapon Subutai (Nur Din better) and Li Jing (Alfred better, even Martel and Baldwin) not needed right now.  |
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Post by stoic on Aug 13, 2022 16:18:35 GMT
It is very intriguing but I still don't have a clear answer to the question: what is the point of grinding? New conquests are great, but they don't require lvl 15 troops (moreover they are even forbidden to use). In campaigns we can use only one "special guest" general (players with Charlemagne two). So, the impact of lvl 15 units is great but still limited because we need 3 elite units at most, not 33. We are running out of special chapters (especially f2p players). The remaining number of famous generals with special chapters is 4 or 5. Robert the Bruce, Joan (IAP), Edward (IAP), Wallace (IAP) probably Suleman... So, there are only 2 places where we can use variety of different troops: Territory mode and Treasure missions. Imo, it is not enough to justify the insane grinding. As I understand they are going to support the game for quite a long time. I started to think that there will be no sequel like EW6:1914. They will probably implement the sequel in this game later on. I hope you are right... As Erich von Manstein said in another thread we can forget about WC series. So, they have plenty of of time... |
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Post by stoic on Aug 13, 2022 16:25:22 GMT
Truth be told we can be perfectly fine with 5-6 lvl 18 units. What is the purpose of other 33 units, I ask... Like any other collectables games, because want, can and do this. PS. And because we need Subutai weapon, now lvl 37, only 13 lvl for this. PPS. Subutai second best archer general for f2p after Timur with his unique weapon, El Sid can be infantry general now, with rapid March of course he is best archery general. Li Jing second cavalry general after Nevsky. Hardrada without weapon one of best infantry general. I decide not to buy one of them right now, because I have a lot good infantry generals, and without unique weapon Subutai (Nur Din better) and Li Jing (Alfred better, even Martel and Baldwin) not needed right now. The point of getting a weapon of Subutai or any other general is to equip him with this weapon and... to send him in battle. So, we need battles to test our troops and generals. That is the point of upgrading generals and units. I don't see any point in getting a weapon and being happy with this fact if we don't have an opportunity to make any use of it  |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Aug 13, 2022 16:35:02 GMT
Like any other collectables games, because want, can and do this. PS. And because we need Subutai weapon, now lvl 37, only 13 lvl for this. PPS. Subutai second best archer general for f2p after Timur with his unique weapon, El Sid can be infantry general now, with rapid March of course he is best archery general. Li Jing second cavalry general after Nevsky. Hardrada without weapon one of best infantry general. I decide not to buy one of them right now, because I have a lot good infantry generals, and without unique weapon Subutai (Nur Din better) and Li Jing (Alfred better, even Martel and Baldwin) not needed right now. The point of getting a weapon of Subutai or any other general is to equip him with this weapon and... to send him in battle. So, we need battles to test our troops and generals. That is the point of upgrading generals and units. I don't see any point in getting a weapon and being happy with this fact if we don't have an opportunity to make any use of it After all campaigns, ET can give us many battles from medieval like in EW6, or like Treasure missions, only with battles. They can give us new content a long time after all campaigns and conquests, if they want of course, and if they can earn money from this process. PS. Very big problem in their model what new players can't be in same conditions like players who plays from start, it's a very big problem. Just try start this game now, it's totally unreal even for p2w players. |
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Post by stoic on Aug 13, 2022 16:43:00 GMT
The point of getting a weapon of Subutai or any other general is to equip him with this weapon and... to send him in battle. So, we need battles to test our troops and generals. That is the point of upgrading generals and units. I don't see any point in getting a weapon and being happy with this fact if we don't have an opportunity to make any use of it After all campaigns, ET can give us many battles from medieval like in EW6, or like Treasure missions, only with battles. They can give us new content a long time after all campaigns and conquests, if they want of course, and if they can earn money from this process. PS. Very big problem in their model what new players can't be in same conditions like players who plays from start, it's a big problem. Well, obviously there are plenty of things they "could" do, but I would like to hear about things they are "planning" to do... |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Aug 13, 2022 17:41:12 GMT
After all campaigns, ET can give us many battles from medieval like in EW6, or like Treasure missions, only with battles. They can give us new content a long time after all campaigns and conquests, if they want of course, and if they can earn money from this process. PS. Very big problem in their model what new players can't be in same conditions like players who plays from start, it's a big problem. Well, obviously there are plenty of things they "could" do, but I would like to hear about things they are "planning" to do... As we can see they planning new 18-22 generals F2P and IAP, new 2-4 units, of course new content. Without new content they can't get enough money flow I guess. PS. But big problem same, new players start game with big gap and don't want pay for this, or can't pay for this. Maybe after ET release all content, they will be need to wipe all data and start from 0, but they need to return all money to p2w players for in game purchase, I can't imagine this. |
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Post by andrei on Aug 13, 2022 18:23:07 GMT
Well, obviously there are plenty of things they "could" do, but I would like to hear about things they are "planning" to do... As we can see they planning new 18-22 generals F2P and IAP, new 2-4 units, of course new content. Without new content they can't get enough money flow I guess. PS. But big problem same, new players start game with big gap and don't want pay for this, or can't pay for this. Maybe after ET release all content, they will be need to wipe all data and start from 0, but they need to return all money to p2w players for in game purchase, I can't imagine this. And what is the problem with new players? It is not MMO rpg. It is mobile single player game. You can start whenever You want. |
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Post by kingbutawl on Aug 13, 2022 18:27:49 GMT
33 units lvl 6 and 5-6 lvl 18?! Truth be told we can be perfectly fine with 5-6 lvl 18 units. What is the purpose of other 33 units, I ask... I think Ew7, as the semi-historical game it is, wants to homage the highest number of unique troops notwithstanding their effectiveness. Somehow they’re trying to adeguate diversity to effectiveness. If I were you I’d share all of these thoughts on the other well known social media ET uses to launch events and read many of our suggestions. |
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Post by kingbutawl on Aug 13, 2022 18:30:21 GMT
As we can see they planning new 18-22 generals F2P and IAP, new 2-4 units, of course new content. Without new content they can't get enough money flow I guess. PS. But big problem same, new players start game with big gap and don't want pay for this, or can't pay for this. Maybe after ET release all content, they will be need to wipe all data and start from 0, but they need to return all money to p2w players for in game purchase, I can't imagine this. And what is the problem with new players? It is not MMO rpg. It is mobile single player game. You can start whenever You want. Moreover new players are even more advantaged compared to us who started earlier, because they get gems and they play nerfed campaigns. I (and many others) completed Timur’s and Edward’s legends before they introduced those precious gems, for example |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Aug 13, 2022 19:26:00 GMT
And what is the problem with new players? It is not MMO rpg. It is mobile single player game. You can start whenever You want. Moreover new players are even more advantaged compared to us who started earlier, because they get gems and they play nerfed campaigns. I (and many others) completed Timur’s and Edward’s legends before they introduced those precious gems, for example Timur and Edward introduced in one update with gems, isn't it? |
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