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Post by stoic on Sept 17, 2022 11:44:18 GMT
It is not a religion it is a matter of common sense. I have Noble cavalry at lvl 14 and Cataphracts at lvl 15. Do you? After mistake than I buy for war souls Templars at lvl 6 for tests and save game, I don't need Cataphracts at my charge legions, they at lvl 9, and Noble at lvl 12, and Boyars at lvl 6 and they are same with Cataphracts lvl 9, and Templars at lvl 7, that's why I said what lvl 8 better than lvl 15 Cataphracts, and other players argue this. Well I don't need calculations in my mind and assumptions. I have both and I say that Cataphracts lvl 15 are better than lvl 14 Noble cavalry. I actually tested it on many occasions. |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Sept 17, 2022 11:44:41 GMT
While high lv noble cavalry seems good, high lv cataprachts is also good because of bonus, its just easy to die than the other. As, actually, all cavalry units do, because they have unforgivable low HP. The question was who can deal more damage. Obviously Templars are unit number one. But after that only Cataphracts have an almost guaranteed triple charge. We are at mercy of RNG in all other cases. Of course lvl 14 Noble cavalry better lvl 15 Cataphracts. You just defend your swamp. PS. All charge cavalry units can get 100% triple charge with 1 Cataphracts unit in legion. |
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Post by stoic on Sept 17, 2022 11:45:43 GMT
As, actually, all cavalry units do, because they have unforgivable low HP. The question was who can deal more damage. Obviously Templars are unit number one. But after that only Cataphracts have an almost guaranteed triple charge. We are at mercy of RNG in all other cases. PS. All charge cavalry units can get 100% triple charge with 1 Cataphracts unit in legion. No, you are wrong, it is not a legion ability. |
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Post by stoic on Sept 17, 2022 11:47:32 GMT
It is better to read about abilities first, and then to argue about them, not vice versa  |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Sept 17, 2022 11:52:30 GMT
PS. All charge cavalry units can get 100% triple charge with 1 Cataphracts unit in legion. No, you are wrong, it is not a legion ability. If it's not a legion ability, then Cataphracts even worse other charge cavalry units with legion abilities. PS. You can try test your 3 Cataphracts lvl 15 in legion and I can try my 3 lvl 8 Templars and 3 lvl 12 Nobles at Alfred without any weapons in slots, and other players decide what's the best. |
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Post by stoic on Sept 17, 2022 12:02:55 GMT
No, you are wrong, it is not a legion ability. If it's not a legion ability, then Cataphracts even worse other charge cavalry units with legion abilities. Yeah, the worst unit ever, you can easily skip it  but, just in case, read description of abilities  . You may find many nasty surprises there |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Sept 17, 2022 12:10:12 GMT
If it's not a legion ability, then Cataphracts even worse other charge cavalry units with legion abilities. Yeah, the worst unit ever, you can easily skip it but, just in case, read description of abilities . You may find many nasty surprises there 👌 but your swamp not the best.😁 |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Sept 17, 2022 12:11:50 GMT
If it's not a legion ability, then Cataphracts even worse other charge cavalry units with legion abilities. Yeah, the worst unit ever, you can easily skip it but, just in case, read description of abilities . You may find many nasty surprises there Not the worst and not the best. Unit like units. |
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Post by verily on Sept 17, 2022 12:14:19 GMT
While high lv noble cavalry seems good, high lv cataprachts is also good because of bonus, its just easy to die than the other. As, actually, all cavalry units do, because they have unforgivable low HP. The question was who can deal more damage. Obviously Templars are unit number one. But after that only Cataphracts have an almost guaranteed triple charge. We are at mercy of RNG in all other cases. Yeah, have mercy RNG. That's why I put defence infantry together with charge cavalry sacrifice the movement for survivability. Charge cavalry ranks according to castle. (I know this is wrong but i just want to) 1 boyar - because of bonus of mobility 2 templar - highest charge rate, 5% dmg to allies 3 cataphracts - bonus 20% charge rate + 10% damage 4 normans - 5%damage if multiple units 5 noble - + 1 to morale to unit 6 heavy lance 5%damage if multiple. Don't get me wrong I use noble cavalry as main charge cavalry because high lv than cataphracts. I don't even believe in the ranking. But just to give overview?. |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Sept 17, 2022 12:17:11 GMT
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Post by stoic on Sept 17, 2022 12:26:05 GMT
As, actually, all cavalry units do, because they have unforgivable low HP. The question was who can deal more damage. Obviously Templars are unit number one. But after that only Cataphracts have an almost guaranteed triple charge. We are at mercy of RNG in all other cases. Yeah, have mercy RNG. That's why I put defence infantry together with charge cavalry sacrifice the movement for survivability. Charge cavalry ranks according to castle. (I know this is wrong but i just want to) 1 boyar - because of bonus of mobility 2 templar - highest charge rate, 5% dmg to allies 3 cataphracts - bonus 20% charge rate + 10% damage 4 normans - 5%damage if multiple units 5 noble - + 1 to morale to unit 6 heavy lance 5%damage if multiple. Don't get me wrong I use noble cavalry as main charge cavalry because high lv than cataphracts. I don't even believe in the ranking. But just to give overview?. I have nothing against Noble Cavalry and, probably, it is better to invest in this unit first of all. But my logic is simple... I try to kill opponents before they can kill me Not that long ago "charge" was the best way to eliminate enemies. But now, I believe, horse archers can do it without charging opponents. Even triple charge against Attila or Robin is not advised since their counterattacks are devastating. But horse archers can now eliminate them without a scratch. |
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Post by stoic on Sept 17, 2022 12:27:29 GMT
  Stoic are you ready for test? Yeah, sure , what are you suggesting to attack? |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Sept 17, 2022 12:32:23 GMT
Stoic are you ready for test? Yeah, sure , what are you suggesting to attack? You can choose. Waiting your tests. |
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Post by stoic on Sept 17, 2022 12:50:20 GMT
Yeah, sure , what are you suggesting to attack? You can choose. Waiting your tests. Edward's campaign, battle of Evesham hard, stage 2. We can attack 2 different units in one turn.        |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Sept 17, 2022 14:45:06 GMT
3 Lvl 15 Cataphracts even not have 100% triple charge. Maybe I have another lvl 15 Cataphracts? PS. I don't understand how they can be better, even not the same. Your swamp not the best swamp. |
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but, just in case, read description of abilities 
. You may find many nasty surprises there 
