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Post by stoic on Sept 17, 2022 14:58:15 GMT
3 Lvl 15 Cataphracts even not have 100% triple charge. Maybe I have another lvl 15 Cataphracts? PS. I don't understand how they can be better, even not the same. Your swamp not the best swamp.  Don't make me laugh... Out 100 attempts you have chosen the only one with a single charge and try to "sell" it as a test. Do I look like a person who can be "fooled" that way? And compare with triple charge of Templars. Lvl 15 Cataphracts have higher charge rate the lvl 8 Templars. And as your test demonstrated Templars lvl 8 are worse than Cataphracts lvl 15. It is obvious to everyone. |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Sept 17, 2022 15:09:19 GMT
3 Lvl 15 Cataphracts even not have 100% triple charge. Maybe I have another lvl 15 Cataphracts? PS. I don't understand how they can be better, even not the same. Your swamp not the best swamp. Don't make me laugh... Out 100 attempts you have chosen the only one with a single charge and try to "sell" it as a test. Do I look like a person who can be "fooled" that way? And compare with triple charge of Templars. Lvl 15 Cataphracts have higher charge rate the lvl 8 Templars. And as your test demonstrated Templars lvl 8 are worse than Cataphracts lvl 15. It is obvious to everyone. Of course, your swamp better, all who have eyes can see results, and lvl15 Cataphracts of course best units in the game. Swamp, swamp, swamp. 😁 PS. You can test lvl 14 Noble, you say they worse lvl 15 Cataphracts. 😉 Of course you can't test lvl 8 Templars. |
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Post by stoic on Sept 17, 2022 15:12:55 GMT
Don't make me laugh... Out 100 attempts you have chosen the only one with a single charge and try to "sell" it as a test. Do I look like a person who can be "fooled" that way? And compare with triple charge of Templars. Lvl 15 Cataphracts have higher charge rate the lvl 8 Templars. And as your test demonstrated Templars lvl 8 are worse than Cataphracts lvl 15. It is obvious to everyone. Of course, your swamp better, all who have eyes can see results, and lvl15 Cataphracts of course best units in the game. Swamp, swamp, swamp. 😁 Don't waste words. Just upload pictures of triple charge of Cataphracts and Templars. And we can compare it. Just do it instead of many words. Triple charge of Cataphracts lvl 15 and Templars lvl 8. Few words, two pictures. |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Sept 17, 2022 15:13:03 GMT
15 lvl Cataphracts same 8 lvl Templars but more cheaper. Quite doubtful... Lvl 15 Cataphracts should have the same stats as lvl 11-12 Templars. Maybe less defence but more HP and more or less equal attack. Maybe you need tests with lvl 11-12 Templars? 🤣 |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Sept 17, 2022 15:14:21 GMT
Of course, your swamp better, all who have eyes can see results, and lvl15 Cataphracts of course best units in the game. Swamp, swamp, swamp. 😁 Don't waste words. Just upload pictures of triple charge of Cataphracts and Templars. And we can compare it. Just do it instead of many words. Triple charge of Cataphracts lvl 15 and Templars lvl 8. Few words, two pictures. Your tests with 6 triple charge IMO enough. PS. But I can do this, and you can't give us your tests lvl 8 Templars. |
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Post by stoic on Sept 17, 2022 15:15:05 GMT
Quite doubtful... Lvl 15 Cataphracts should have the same stats as lvl 11-12 Templars. Maybe less defence but more HP and more or less equal attack. Maybe you need tests with lvl 11-12 Templars? 🤣 It was your assumption that Cataphracts lvl 15 are worse that Templars lvl 8. Not mine. So prove it... |
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Post by stoic on Sept 17, 2022 15:16:48 GMT
Don't waste words. Just upload pictures of triple charge of Cataphracts and Templars. And we can compare it. Just do it instead of many words. Triple charge of Cataphracts lvl 15 and Templars lvl 8. Few words, two pictures. Your tests with 6 triple charge IMO enough. Do it yourself. I don't ask for something impossible. One triple charge of Cataphracts and one triple charge of Templars. It will be completely your test. |
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Post by stoic on Sept 17, 2022 15:20:46 GMT
Don't make me laugh... Out 100 attempts you have chosen the only one with a single charge and try to "sell" it as a test. Do I look like a person who can be "fooled" that way? And compare with triple charge of Templars. Lvl 15 Cataphracts have higher charge rate the lvl 8 Templars. And as your test demonstrated Templars lvl 8 are worse than Cataphracts lvl 15. It is obvious to everyone. Of course, your swamp better, all who have eyes can see results, and lvl15 Cataphracts of course best units in the game. Swamp, swamp, swamp. 😁 PS. You can test lvl 14 Noble, you say they worse lvl 15 Cataphracts. 😉 Of course you can't test lvl 8 Templars. Of course, I did. And the difference between charge rate of Noble Cavalry and of Cataphracts proved to me that Cataphracts can do triple charges far more often than Noble Cavalry. |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Sept 17, 2022 15:21:52 GMT
Your tests with 6 triple charge IMO enough. Do it yourself. I don't ask for something impossible. One triple charge of Cataphracts and one triple charge of Templars. It will be completely your test. Nope, Templars give bonuses for all units around, they can at lvl 8 deal smaller damage, they compensate this by +5% damage for other generals. PS. Swamp, swamp, swamp. |
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Post by stoic on Sept 17, 2022 15:25:05 GMT
Do it yourself. I don't ask for something impossible. One triple charge of Cataphracts and one triple charge of Templars. It will be completely your test. Nope, Templars give bonuses for all units around, they can at lvl 8 deal smaller damage, they compensate this by +5% damage for other generals. PS. Swamp, swamp, swamp. Not Templars, one Templar. One unit of Templars lvl 1 in the whole army is enough for this. Effects do not stack up. |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Sept 17, 2022 15:26:06 GMT
Of course, your swamp better, all who have eyes can see results, and lvl15 Cataphracts of course best units in the game. Swamp, swamp, swamp. 😁 PS. You can test lvl 14 Noble, you say they worse lvl 15 Cataphracts. 😉 Of course you can't test lvl 8 Templars. Of course, I did. And the difference between charge rate of Noble Cavalry and of Cataphracts proved to me that Cataphracts can do triple charges far more often than Noble Cavalry. Not so far, just some. From 100 your attempts Lvl 14 Noble deal more damage then lvl 15 Cataphracts. |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Sept 17, 2022 15:28:32 GMT
Nope, Templars give bonuses for all units around, they can at lvl 8 deal smaller damage, they compensate this by +5% damage for other generals. PS. Swamp, swamp, swamp. Not Templars, one Templar. One unit of Templars lvl 1 in the whole army is enough for this. Effects do not stack up. Of course even 1, I'm specially avoid disappointment your religion with Cataphracts, because mix legions better them at all. 🙂 |
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Post by stoic on Sept 17, 2022 15:28:39 GMT
Of course, I did. And the difference between charge rate of Noble Cavalry and of Cataphracts proved to me that Cataphracts can do triple charges far more often than Noble Cavalry. Not so far, just some. From 100 your attempts Lvl 14 Noble deal more damage then lvl 15 Cataphracts. The difference between 65% and 85% is huge. |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Sept 17, 2022 15:32:31 GMT
Not so far, just some. From 100 your attempts Lvl 14 Noble deal more damage then lvl 15 Cataphracts. The difference between 65% and 85% is huge. Not so huge if we are talking about 3 units at legions. Boyars can give 3 attack per turn at your Edward's mission, this is huge difference. |
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Post by stoic on Sept 17, 2022 15:35:21 GMT
Not Templars, one Templar. One unit of Templars lvl 1 in the whole army is enough for this. Effects do not stack up. Of course even 1, I'm specially avoid disappointment your religion with Cataphracts, because mix legions better them at all. 🙂 You didn't get the point, do you. Cataphracts buff every unit including Melee Cavalry when they are in a legion. And you may have 10 Cavalry legions with Cataphracts on board, while Templars only buff legions one time and only those close to them. In other words if you have two Cavalry legions with Templars, the buff is still 5%. But if you have two Cavalry legions with Cataphracts. The bonus is 10% for each Legion. |
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