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Post by generalfeldmarschall on Sept 29, 2022 7:32:03 GMT
A good argument can be made that Tzimiskes was made to curb Timur and Subutai. His active is designed as so, and the skillset is very reminiscent of Su's. He also tries to copy Timur's insane capability points. He seems to try to take hits from the insanely powerful Timur and work with less legions. ET really seems to be pumping out charge cav generals lately. The only thing between him and Li is that you can upgrade his title and that he as a HL. Just a general with a weapon and a HL. The only reason to buy him is probably because of his weapon making him better than Baibars. His unit is just another hard to get unit. If you want a hard to get unit, get Li Jing's JB or Templars, or just stick with Cataphracts and Noble/Boyars. No reason to shell out your soul(s) to get another low leveled unit. So why should you buy him? Well, he is T4 and has a weapon and HL. He also has a rather good cavalry skill set (2/4 passives). But one skill only works when you are at a disadvantage (and you are using fragile charge cav, you may enter this range quickly but you will die even faster), one is admin (ew), and one (his active) is untested. It could be meh at 10%, it could be great at 25%. Honestly, it could all depend on his active to swing his rating. Buy hey, who can turn down what could be a Timur-killing Byzantine Nevsky? 3/5. If his HL offers 40 fragments and his unit is T5 Templars (probably not), 4/5. At this point, you should just stick to Nobles, Templars, Boyars, and Cataphracts. If you can make his unit work, 5/5, Byzantine Alfred. I have alfred nevesky and baldwin so should I buy him and should timur bois be scared |
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Sept 29, 2022 11:40:55 GMT
A good argument can be made that Tzimiskes was made to curb Timur and Subutai. His active is designed as so, and the skillset is very reminiscent of Su's. He also tries to copy Timur's insane capability points. He seems to try to take hits from the insanely powerful Timur and work with less legions. ET really seems to be pumping out charge cav generals lately. The only thing between him and Li is that you can upgrade his title and that he as a HL. Just a general with a weapon and a HL. The only reason to buy him is probably because of his weapon making him better than Baibars. His unit is just another hard to get unit. If you want a hard to get unit, get Li Jing's JB or Templars, or just stick with Cataphracts and Noble/Boyars. No reason to shell out your soul(s) to get another low leveled unit. So why should you buy him? Well, he is T4 and has a weapon and HL. He also has a rather good cavalry skill set (2/4 passives). But one skill only works when you are at a disadvantage (and you are using fragile charge cav, you may enter this range quickly but you will die even faster), one is admin (ew), and one (his active) is untested. It could be meh at 10%, it could be great at 25%. Honestly, it could all depend on his active to swing his rating. Buy hey, who can turn down what could be a Timur-killing Byzantine Nevsky? 3/5. If his HL offers 40 fragments and his unit is T5 Templars (probably not), 4/5. At this point, you should just stick to Nobles, Templars, Boyars, and Cataphracts. If you can make his unit work, 5/5, Byzantine Alfred. I have alfred nevesky and baldwin so should I buy him and should timur bois be scared When you get his item, sure. Seeing how Attila can still land a good hit, no, probably not. His active is only for 1 turn. |
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Post by stoic on Sept 29, 2022 11:45:52 GMT
When you get his item, sure. Seeing how Attila can still land a good hit, no, probably not. His active is only for 1 turn. My suspicion that duration of his active and/or damage reduction are increased when his weapon is equipped. It needs to be verified though. Maybe it just decreases the cooldown by one turn. |
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Post by jonblend on Sept 29, 2022 17:13:28 GMT
stoic, his weapon/lv2 active skill will increase the duration to 2 turns. And to add to 6Johnny23 's solid argument, Tzimiskes is very similar to Li Jing (cav tactician and cc expert), but the latter has team skills such as leadership and dmg reduction aura (for all types, not just long-range and aura instead of self). We get access to both their their special unit fragments and Tzimiskes' only have a head start of 20 via hero legend.
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Post by Ralyks on Sept 29, 2022 22:31:34 GMT
I like the "Byzantine Alfred" naming, but I do think he is better.
Alfred is made to use both cavalry types, as he has Melee Cavalry Expert AND Polearm Mastery, meaning he has one bonus for each. Taking advantage of his rapid march and polearm, I do have him with 1 Templar, 1 Hospitalier and 1 Heavy Phalanx. He never disappointed. Surely it would do more damage with full cavalry, but I prefer the forest mobility and cavalry resistance.
But John has cavalry tactician that works for both types and then charging cavalry. Meaning that if using full cavalry, he is to get both bonuses, while with melee cavalry only one. and then he has underdog which can prove valuable due to a big 25% increase.
I rated him 4, to be 5 he would need his active to be better and get rid of fortification expert, which is a waste.
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Post by nikomachos on Sept 30, 2022 10:06:03 GMT
I like the "Byzantine Alfred" naming, but I do think he is better. Alfred is made to use both cavalry types, as he has Melee Cavalry Expert AND Polearm Mastery, meaning he has one bonus for each. Taking advantage of his rapid march and polearm, I do have him with 1 Templar, 1 Hospitalier and 1 Heavy Phalanx. He never disappointed. Surely it would do more damage with full cavalry, but I prefer the forest mobility and cavalry resistance. But John has cavalry tactician that works for both types and then charging cavalry. Meaning that if using full cavalry, he is to get both bonuses, while with melee cavalry only one. and then he has underdog which can prove valuable due to a big 25% increase. I rated him 4, to be 5 he would need his active to be better and get rid of fortification expert, which is a waste. yeah but you did not even mention that alfred obviously has noble cav a unit 99% of us have at a high level and makes another 20% legion dmg and not even in your setup. so more than makes up for cav tactician. that is why alfred is and remains better as long as we can not max klibanos |
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Post by stoic on Sept 30, 2022 10:19:40 GMT
Plus, if we take into account skills acquired with gems, "Charging cavalry expert" is one of the most natural combinations of gems for a cavalry general  while "Polearm mastery" is rather a bizarre one.   Yet, I like Tzimiskes, mainly because of this  |
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Post by nikomachos on Sept 30, 2022 10:29:09 GMT
yes, i actually have charging skill on 2 gens right now.
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Post by kingbutawl on Sept 30, 2022 10:35:13 GMT
yes, i actually have charging skill on 2 gens right now. Me 2, because I have Noble Cavalry and I needed more charging rate on Alfred  . |
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Post by verily on Oct 6, 2022 9:40:53 GMT
finally understand the active. the grid is the area surrounding you. which means damage reduction of range to nearby units.
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Post by Boss Tweed on Oct 20, 2022 0:36:31 GMT
finally understand the active. the grid is the area surrounding you. which means damage reduction of range to nearby units. Basically an aura effect. Useful in a pinch but good level teutons do the same... |
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Post by nexttimebro on Nov 18, 2022 15:15:03 GMT
With new weapon from the shop underdog strategy lvl 2 gives +50% dmg instead of 25  |
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Post by jonblend on Nov 19, 2022 14:33:24 GMT
With new weapon from the shop underdog strategy lvl 2 gives +50% dmg instead of 25 I'd need to unlock his unit in the first place and then have 3400 (*0.9) medals for this item  but thanks anyways for pointing out, Underdog strategy has flown under my radar so far and +50% is huge compared to the 5-15% we get from most other skills. |
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Post by conkueror on Nov 19, 2022 19:40:05 GMT
Do you use medals to buy eagle coins for territory shop golden items? Is it worth it?
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Post by Boss Tweed on Nov 19, 2022 21:28:41 GMT
Do you use medals to buy eagle coins for territory shop golden items? Is it worth it? Golden items worth it since 2 gem slots. Also my opinion of John turned completely around |
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but thanks anyways for pointing out, Underdog strategy has flown under my radar so far and +50% is huge compared to the 5-15% we get from most other skills.
