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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Apr 17, 2023 13:21:31 GMT
Of course, I'll post it soon. My latest change about organization was a long time ago, so I should update it anyway, including the newly produced tanks, aircrafts etc.
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Post by Warlord247 on Apr 17, 2023 14:13:02 GMT
Eugene V. Debs only Go ahead and reach out to France about providing naval support. Even if we cannot gain Spain's support, we can still go through with our original plan of encircling their navy.
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Apr 17, 2023 18:00:45 GMT
My armies will be deployed as stated below until the next order (the two recruitment turns we've all gotten since page 30 and the newly produced tanks, aircrafts etc. are included).
All the armies below (unless stated otherwise, like in the case of the reserves) will be deployed near the said borders.
Western Belarussian army: 300,000 men, 1000 tanks, 1000 guns, 300 fighters and 200 bombers.
Belarussian Reserves (Minsk): 600,000 men, 5000 tanks, 4000 guns, 1000 fighters, 200 bombers, 500 sturmoviks.
Western Ukrainian Army: 300,000 men, 1000 tanks, 1000 guns, 300 fighters and 200 bombers.
Ukrainian Reserves (Cherkasy): 600,000 men, 5000 tanks, 4000 guns, 1000 fighters, 200 bombers, 500 sturmoviks.
Romanian Army (along our western Polish border in Romania, excluding the rest of our Romanian territory): 300,000 men, 1000 tanks, 1000 guns, 400 fighters, 200 bombers.
Southern Romania Army (Bucharest): 20,000.
Russian Reserves (near the city of Bryansk): 200,000 men, 4000 tanks, 3000 guns, 800 fighters, 550 bombers.
Baltic Army: 200,000 men, 200 tanks, 500 guns, 50 fighters, 50 bombers.
Leningrad Reserves: 20,000 men.
Ukrainian Coast Guards (Odessa): 20,000 men.
Northern Army (Finnish border): 20,000 men.
Stalingrad Reserves: 300,000 men, 1000 tanks, 1000 guns, 500 fighters, 50 bombers.
Caucasian Army: 240,000 men, 500 tanks, 400 guns, 50 fighters, 50 bombers.
Also, our newly produced units will join the Russian Reserves from now on.
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Apr 17, 2023 18:01:40 GMT
Only for Kliment Jefremovitš VorošilovGreetings my dear French friend, As you know as well, a lot of things has happened since we've last spoken, and therefore I believe we need to discuss the recent events. But first, I would like to apologise for our message where we unjustly criticised your talks with Italy. Our anti-facist stance had gotten over our commen sense, and I apologise for it. But I believe that our relationship is stronger than this, and I'm willing to keep it strong. If we can easily be divided by this, how can we imagine to stand against totalitarian dictatorships and empires? I hope we can leave that accident behind, for it does not do well to dwell on past, whilst the the now and here does not wait for anyone. Since the Italy event, we've become disconnected, despite not officialy breaking our alliance, we never spoke. Therefore, I had to continue my friendly relationship with Austria-Hungary, inviting Poland too. As we are all neighbours in Eastern Europe, our partnership was natural, just like you talked with Italy against the threat of Austria-Hungary at the time. Plus, Austria-Hungary has declared its pro-communist stance, so this made our relationship even better. And they also gifted Poland Königsberg, which made their relationship better too. So all three of us become friendly in the end. However, then Austria-Hungary started making plans to attack you and fascist Italy. If you wonder why I didn't intervene, because I needed to preserve my relationship with Austria to gain time to prepare for a world war. After that, as Italy is no longer a member of the international community, Austria-Hungary has now attacked you, but I refuse to attack you. Because I am still techinicallly allied with you, and I don't have a reason for hostility with you anyway. And I want to keep good relations, if we agree to reconcile between our nations now. Neither you nor Austria can win the war, as your armies are of near equal strength, so are your naval forces. Even if you won, it would be at a devastating cost that it wouldn't worth it. But I can change the course of this war, with my huge army and navy. Austria-Hungary can't stand against you and me when we unite our forces. No totalitarian regime has managed to defeat us so far, and nor will they from now on. Spain seems mostly neutral and Poland's current stance is unknown (they're not strong enough to win the war anyway), so you need one more beside your side to defeat Austria-Hungary. Poland may return to Austria-Hungary's side, who knows. This is why I want to talk with you. I'm willing to start talking about continuing our good relationship. Despite everything, we have never become enemies so far. Because the relationship between our nations is stronger than anything else. And I wish to continue this. Two is stronger than one, and power comes from unity, doesn't it? Also, even if we don't come to an agreement at the end of this talk, I want to solve the uncertainty in our nations' relationship in a honourable way and part our ways, although I prefer keep going together. Either way, I want for us to determine this like gentlemen. A non-roleplay personal note: Also, I've personally always hated betrayals since I first started RPing, so I want to avoid it at all costs, even if we really part our ways in this alliance. I know things like betrayals happens sometimes, and this is only natural and normal as long as the rules allow it, though at least I try to avoid it myself. By the way, even if we don't come to be on the same side on the upcoming war, it will be no problem for me. We've been RPing together since the TW7 RP, and I've always enjoyed both fighting side by side with you and against you since those times; and I think that you're a formidable ally and a powerful enemy, so I enjoy playing with you both way. And being on Austria's side would be okay for me too, as I've wanted to fight side by side with Warlord in a RP for a while too, so it won't be a problem for me no matter what happens. I see you all as my children () my friends anyway, so I'll be happy either way. So, in short, no matter which side we both come to be on the upcoming war, may the force always be with you.
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Post by John Marston on Apr 18, 2023 13:36:09 GMT
2,00,000 are along the Spanish - Portuguese border and 1,00,000 are placed on Gibraltar. The remaining (4,20,000)are placed along the Franco - Spanish border. All my guns and tanks are stationed in Burgos, Warlord247
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Post by John Marston on Apr 18, 2023 13:42:12 GMT
Only for Warlord247 Is he moving his navy to evacuate the soldiers there? If not, I think it is a bad idea. John Marston only His navy is currently stationed at Gibraltar, to blockade mine. Once the fighting begins act as if you are a helping hand. Say you'll evacuate his troops to guarantee your nations safety.
Make excuses to take longer in your route though something like "the navy participates in minesweeping due to the active war, and sends patrols, making travel time 14 posts. By the time you get there they'll have been ran to sea. And then you can ensure that they never make it.
Please consider the plan now. Your navy will be at minimum risk, and your blockade will free up forces that can be sent to your aid.
Sincerely, Sir Kent, King of the Austro-Hungarian empire Only for Warlord247Sorry your Majesty, but this is all the navy I have got. France can crush me anytime they want and I want every capable body/gun/tank to defend the Spanish territories. That is a gamble I cannot take.
I don't want to rush, but I think having Communist troops on the Franco-Spanish border will give me more freedom to act. I don't want to act until then. Let me know what you think.
Yours truly, the Leader John Marston.
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Post by Warlord247 on Apr 18, 2023 13:47:18 GMT
John Marston only His navy is currently stationed at Gibraltar, to blockade mine. Once the fighting begins act as if you are a helping hand. Say you'll evacuate his troops to guarantee your nations safety.
Make excuses to take longer in your route though something like "the navy participates in minesweeping due to the active war, and sends patrols, making travel time 14 posts. By the time you get there they'll have been ran to sea. And then you can ensure that they never make it.
Please consider the plan now. Your navy will be at minimum risk, and your blockade will free up forces that can be sent to your aid.
Sincerely, Sir Kent, King of the Austro-Hungarian empire Only for Warlord247 Sorry your Majesty, but this is all the navy I have got. France can crush me anytime they want and I want every capable body/gun/tank to defend the Spanish territories. That is a gamble I cannot take.
I don't want to rush, but I think having Communist troops on the Franco-Spanish border will give me more freedom to act. I don't want to act until then. Let me know what you think.
Yours truly, the Leader John Marston. John Marston only I understand your concern, but freeing the forces in Albania is the only way to provide you with more troops. If the Fench manage to flee it'll have dire consequences, not just for me and the premier but for your country as well. I do not wish to divulge the plan, but trust me when I say your navy will be safe. Especially if you come as an ally, and not an enemy
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Post by John Marston on Apr 18, 2023 13:48:34 GMT
Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov, 1. Your post still says 6,00,000 troops. I have 7,20,000. 2. It also says "200 tanks, 500 tanks". Is one of them guns? 3. Nationalist Spain still exists... 4. How does recruitment work? Can we recruit soldiers?
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Post by John Marston on Apr 18, 2023 13:55:18 GMT
Only for Warlord247 Sorry your Majesty, but this is all the navy I have got. France can crush me anytime they want and I want every capable body/gun/tank to defend the Spanish territories. That is a gamble I cannot take.
I don't want to rush, but I think having Communist troops on the Franco-Spanish border will give me more freedom to act. I don't want to act until then. Let me know what you think.
Yours truly, the Leader John Marston. John Marston only I understand your concern, but freeing the forces in Albania is the only way to provide you with more troops. If the Fench manage to flee it'll have dire consequences, not just for me and the premier but for your country as well. I do not wish to divulge the plan, but trust me when I say your navy will be safe. Especially if you come as an ally, and not an enemy Only for Warlord247Sorry your Majesty, but I cannot, due to the aforementioned reasons. I don't know your plan, I don't want to know, but I cannot make such a big gamble. I will either wait for more viable opportunities or until Communist troops land here. Hope you understand, your Majesty.
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Post by Warlord247 on Apr 18, 2023 14:02:58 GMT
Eugene V. Debs only Spain has refused to provide their navy for the blockade of Albanian forces.
I say our best course of action is to still guarantee their independence, but to inform them that the leasing of French factories and the occupation of morraco will not be allowed lest they provide for the war effort.
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Apr 18, 2023 14:16:28 GMT
Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov, 1. Your post still says 6,00,000 troops. I have 7,20,000. 2. It also says "200 tanks, 500 tanks". Is one of them guns? 3. Nationalist Spain still exists... 4. How does recruitment work? Can we recruit soldiers? About the recruitment issue, we currently use Warlord247's proposed sytem. In this system, all armies get %2 more troops every 10 pages, or every 5 pages if you've been in war (not 5 consecutive pages, it's enough if you've had war for 5 pages under 10 pages to get recruitments). This system started in page 30, so those who have not been in a war got their recruitments at page 40 i.e. 10 pages later. As for the Nationalist Spain, I believe it's just remained in the country list. For example, the other already conquered countries (like Romania or the Baltic countries) are still on the list too, so it's not a mistake. About your tanks and guns, I think it's just a typo, and that it should be 200 tanks and 500 guns (naturally everyone has more guns than tanks, so that logic goes for your army too), but still, I'd say wait for Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov's confirmation in order to avoid a mistake, although it's highly unlikely. Your current army is 720,000, I believe 600,000 is just your army before recruitment. We had a different recruitment system at the beginning of this RP, so I think your current army includes the soldiers Republican Spain would've gotten via that system as well, as you have joined recently, it's probably included automatically. Again not sure though, it's only my understanding of the situation, so I'd again advise waiting.
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Apr 18, 2023 14:21:12 GMT
Eugene V. Debs only Spain has refused to provide their navy for the blockade of Albanian forces.
I say our best course of action is to still guarantee their independence, but to inform them that the leasing of French factories and the occupation of morraco will not be allowed lest they provide for the war effort. Only for Warlord247I agree, they don't seem to be willing to cooperate even in this stage. Perhaps they may cause even more problems in the future.
I'd say we maintain a friendly relationship, but as I've said earlier, I think we shouldn't share our plans with them, at least not the critical parts. Since they tell us of France's plans, why wouldn't they do the same for France as well?
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Post by Warlord247 on Apr 18, 2023 14:26:03 GMT
Eugene V. Debs only Spain has refused to provide their navy for the blockade of Albanian forces.
I say our best course of action is to still guarantee their independence, but to inform them that the leasing of French factories and the occupation of morraco will not be allowed lest they provide for the war effort. Only for Warlord247 I agree, they don't seem to be willing to cooperate even in this stage. Perhaps they may cause even more problems in the future.
I'd say we maintain a friendly relationship, but as I've said earlier, I think we shouldn't share our plans with them, at least not the critical parts. Since they tell us of France's plans, why wouldn't they do the same for France as well? Only for Eugene V. DebsDon't worry, I have not informed them of our intentions at Gibraltar. I kept our plans vague because I feared the very same thing. I only hoped that we would be proven wrong.
I shall tell them our revocation of French factory rights and rights to Morrocco. If they become more forth coming, and provide for the war, they will be granted those privileges once again
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Post by Warlord247 on Apr 18, 2023 14:29:56 GMT
John Marston only After deliberation with the Premiere, we have revoked our guarantees to Morrocco and French factories. We will still guarantee you country in the case of occupation, however we can not in good faith provide you with spoils of war if you will not participate in the war yourself.
This is not meant to be a burning of diplomatic ties by any means. As stated before, we still guarantee your independence, over the entirety of Spain. I hope the diplomatic channel will stay open.
Sincerely, Sir Kent, King of Austria-Hungary
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Post by John Marston on Apr 18, 2023 14:41:15 GMT
John Marston only After deliberation with the Premiere, we have revoked our guarantees to Morrocco and French factories. We will still guarantee you country in the case of occupation, however we can not in good faith provide you with spoils of war if you will not participate in the war yourself.
This is not meant to be a burning of diplomatic ties by any means. As stated before, we still guarantee your independence, over the entirety of Spain. I hope the diplomatic channel will stay open.
Sincerely, Sir Kent, King of Austria-Hungary Only for Warlord247Your Majesty, I am full commited to your alliance. In order to show my loyalty, I invite your troops to the city of Barcelona. It is well fortified and my navy is currently protecting it. It's just that, I'm a little bit nervous because I still am surrounded by 3 sides and having Communist troops on my soil, as I said, would make me more comfortable.
My main issue is that I fear that what if...this gamble fails? I have only one chance and I cannot afford to botch it. Plus, I think that our long negotiations would have made the French suspicious by now and I don't think they would like to evacuate. Is the front currently at war?
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