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Post by ghosthammer on Dec 5, 2023 0:33:07 GMT
so ive read through all the what to do page and i am wondering should i restart again. first time i got mitsuhide plus the for sure hideyoshi, 2nd time got suzuki shigehide. im 2 pieces away from shibata, kikkiawa,tachibana, and yamagata. really struggling to find a footing in the game. i enjoyed all the other games and want to enjoy this one too. is there a light at the end of the tunnel lol. im f2p also
thanks everyone
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Post by stoic on Dec 5, 2023 1:52:30 GMT
so ive read through all the what to do page and i am wondering should i restart again. first time i got mitsuhide plus the for sure hideyoshi, 2nd time got suzuki shigehide. im 2 pieces away from shibata, kikkiawa,tachibana, and yamagata. really struggling to find a footing in the game. i enjoyed all the other games and want to enjoy this one too. is there a light at the end of the tunnel lol. im f2p also thanks everyone I think you should. Without generals who have special chapters in the library it is extremely difficult to progress as a f2p player. Imo, your goal should be to get fragments of at least 2 (better 3) generals with their corresponding chapters.
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Post by dalimar on Dec 5, 2023 9:36:51 GMT
I think that, for example, Akechi Mitsuhide and Tokugawa Ieyasu are good generals and can be fun. But generals with legendary stories offer more content and more rewards.
I restarted about 5 times, and got mostly weak beginnings. Finally I chose to play with the result I got on my second attempt: Mori Motonari in the first free 50 rolls. Nothing particularly interesting besides Mori in the first 70 rolls.
Mori is a generalist, can be put on archers, infantry and cavalry, though he is not great in combat. More experienced people here think that as the game progresses, he will become relatively weaker general - and I agree. But his skill is fun for me, helpful in the beginning, his legendary story is providing my generals with weapons and some crafting materials.
The game was more fun with him for me. If I got Hojo Ujiyasu at the beginning, I'd be happy too. Purple generals with legendary stories are also very good, I'd like to collect all of them (for now there are 3: Chosokabe Motochika, Shimazu Yoshihisa, Yamanaka Yukimori). I have Chosokabe, he is a strong archer and and ship captain, though his skill is not as good as Mori's.
But if you have already played through a number of missions before restarting, you might get really tired of the game...
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Post by drexus on Dec 5, 2023 10:11:46 GMT
How abou upload and download cloud saves ? Its faster than restart.
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Post by balthazar on Dec 5, 2023 10:53:55 GMT
How abou upload and download cloud saves ? Its faster than restart. If you want to change your golden drop yes, other than that all drops are same after reload. If you got a gold general you can reload and try a different recruit screen(different events). If you do that you get event hero rather than what you got.
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Post by SolidLight on Dec 5, 2023 11:06:51 GMT
How abou upload and download cloud saves ? Its faster than restart. If you want to change your golden drop yes, other than that all drops are same after reload. If you got a gold general you can reload and try a different recruit screen(different events). If you do that you get event hero rather than what you got. This sometimes works, not always. So here's what I think happens: The game saves the numbers on your rolls, but the events change the thresholds on where you get the generals. Say you roll a 100 sided die, and normally between 1-20 you get Ieyasu, 21-40 you get Mitsuhide, 41-60 you get motonari, 61-80 Hideyoshi and 81-100 Ujiyasu. The events expand the ranges on some of them and shrink the others. So during a Ieyasu event it might be like 1-30 on him and mitsuhide's might be like 31-44. I KNOW at the very least that Mitsuhide is next to Ieyasu. This is because I've been able to switch between them with a cloud save and someone here has done it too. And you can't do it if you roll a number somewhere where the thresholds don't change. Even if there is a Ieyasu event you'll still get Mitsuhide no matter what if you roll 33 for example.
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Post by balthazar on Dec 5, 2023 19:29:49 GMT
That could be true cant say for sure but I was able to change my golden drop(hideyoshi) to at least two other golds. That was when there were several time events at simultaneously. I wasted first week of my game without even reading the important stuff mentioned here or discord. But then I really care for my recruits because once the achievements and missions are done you cant get magatama right now.
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Post by balthazar on Dec 5, 2023 19:35:26 GMT
Ah one other thing I have realized is the placement of the purple and golden drops. We know we get a gold at the 100th pull and a purple with the 10 roll. What I noticed is that if you get that purple or gold general as your first drop among other nine, you can reload and pull from a single magatama (not 10). By doing so you get that first drop and then with another 10 magatama pull you get an additional purple general. Nothing big but helped me after I was super unlucky after a week (only hideyoshi and maeda not another purple). I had to make my way.
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Post by balthazar on Dec 26, 2023 9:03:37 GMT
If you want to change your golden drop yes, other than that all drops are same after reload. If you got a gold general you can reload and try a different recruit screen(different events). If you do that you get event hero rather than what you got. This sometimes works, not always. So here's what I think happens: The game saves the numbers on your rolls, but the events change the thresholds on where you get the generals. Say you roll a 100 sided die, and normally between 1-20 you get Ieyasu, 21-40 you get Mitsuhide, 41-60 you get motonari, 61-80 Hideyoshi and 81-100 Ujiyasu. The events expand the ranges on some of them and shrink the others. So during a Ieyasu event it might be like 1-30 on him and mitsuhide's might be like 31-44. I KNOW at the very least that Mitsuhide is next to Ieyasu. This is because I've been able to switch between them with a cloud save and someone here has done it too. And you can't do it if you roll a number somewhere where the thresholds don't change. Even if there is a Ieyasu event you'll still get Mitsuhide no matter what if you roll 33 for example. Are you able to change golden generals after the update? I have spend like 150 magatama and failed to change first drop. Changing events didnt help either. Let me know of your experince please. I want to focus on some golden generals rather than randoms even in events. Like I want Hideyoshi not Akeichi in their event so if that fails now a bummer for me.
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Post by balthazar on Dec 26, 2023 11:09:36 GMT
After so many tries all I was able to change one golden general to other general of the event. Tokugawa>Date. Regular recruitment pool, Hideyoshi event wont matter for anything else.
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Post by stoic on Dec 26, 2023 14:07:29 GMT
I also was able to get rid of Tokugawa's fragments and got Mori instead.
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Post by dalimar on Dec 28, 2023 10:48:38 GMT
I waited for the 'Kanto Alliance' event and changed my yellow roll to Date Masamune. Standard recruitment was giving me someone else.
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Post by stoic on Dec 28, 2023 11:58:11 GMT
I waited for the 'Kanto Alliance' event and changed my yellow roll to Date Masamune. Standard recruitment was giving me someone else. He's actually pretty good. So, a theory, that horse Archers/Teppo profit both from Archer and Cavalry adaptability makes sense. So far I am equipping him with Tenka Fubu. But, possibly, 2 items of Tenka Fubu and 2 items of Akechi's "3 days reign" could produce better results.
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Post by Kurt von Schleicher on Dec 28, 2023 18:11:59 GMT
I waited for the 'Kanto Alliance' event and changed my yellow roll to Date Masamune. Standard recruitment was giving me someone else. He's actually pretty good. So, a theory, that horse Archers/Teppo profit both from Archer and Cavalry adaptability makes sense. So far I am equipping him with Tenka Fubu. But, possibly, 2 items of Tenka Fubu and 2 items of Akechi's "3 days reign" could produce better results.
It‘s seem Mounted Teppo is specifically designed for Date because he‘s only teppo general with a lot cavalry adapt which required for mount that why most of them will deal less dmg in mounted Teppo. this one also have same effect on mounted archer which also required cavalry adapt.
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Post by run4glory on Dec 28, 2023 20:11:49 GMT
Is this because Date has good cav and teppo adaptability (and mounted archer/teppo profits from both adaptabilities) or because Date has golden icons for mounted teppo? Do we have any data on this to back up our speculations?
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