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Post by Airi Momoi on Feb 11, 2024 14:49:22 GMT
I am also not Socrates, especially since I'm the one getting asked the questions!
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Feb 11, 2024 18:19:00 GMT
Ok, I'll go a bit broader - I have a definite answer in mind, but there are probably a lot of valid answers and you may guess one. Are you a Jewish religious leader? Probably not the person you were looking for, but I'm not King Solomon, who built the great temple. You know, I thought of Solomon as an alternate answer and excluded him as a political rather than a religious figure. But on consideration, I've got to concede the point, you win this round. Let's try a change of tack. Is one of the elements of the Periodic Table named after you?
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Post by blueberry on Feb 11, 2024 19:20:31 GMT
Are you a politician?
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Post by Airi Momoi on Feb 11, 2024 20:18:38 GMT
You know, I thought of Solomon as an alternate answer and excluded him as a political rather than a religious figure. But on consideration, I've got to concede the point, you win this round. Let's try a change of tack. Is one of the elements of the Periodic Table named after you? I am not Glenn Seaborg, who has the element Seaborgium named after him.
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Post by Airi Momoi on Feb 11, 2024 20:20:25 GMT
Nor am I Chuck Schumer, Senate Majority Leader of the United States.
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Post by Airi Momoi on Feb 11, 2024 20:23:16 GMT
We also have a new page, so I will repost your known facts: Known: - Name starts with S.
- Not a fictional character.
- Stumps:
- Not a first century queen.
- Did not portray Hamlet on screen.
I'm not: - Simon Legree
- Sandro Botticelli
- King Solomon
- Socrates
- Glenn Seaborg
- Chuck Schumer
- Salome
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Feb 12, 2024 5:54:54 GMT
I don't think this is the right way to go at it. Remember, no doesn't actually mean no, it just means she thought of another incorrect answer in the category. So very broad questions just make it easy for her and give us very little information. Instead, the questions should be very narrow and obscure to try to stump her, since after that we get a definite yes/no. Once we've narrowed things down, we can try brute force. Airi Momoi Ah, a worthy adversary. But (read in your best supervillain voice) we are only beginning. So answer me this. Have you ever played Hamlet on screen?
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Post by blueberry on Feb 12, 2024 7:58:26 GMT
It's going to take forever, isn't it? I never played this game. I read that the character chosen should be at least as famous as Botticelli, but it makes me wonder how famous Botticelli actually is. If I throw a rock and hit someone in a crowd, I'm not sure he would know who Botticelli was... Besides this, it's all relative. Playing Easytech games, we all know Manstein or Guderian, but I don't think that they could be chosen outside of this forum, for instance.
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Post by Airi Momoi on Feb 12, 2024 11:55:29 GMT
Airi Momoi Ah, a worthy adversary. But (read in your best supervillain voice) we are only beginning. So answer me this. Have you ever played Hamlet on screen? Unfortunately, I have limited knowledge on Shakespearean actors within filmography and my mind went to Patrick Stewart, but as far as I remember, Hamlet is not among the many, many roles he's had on television. Thus, I must concede the stump and recite a soliloquy Stewart is famous for saying: "Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow, creeps in this petty pace from day to day, to the last syllable of recorded time." A little off topic, but I had an English teacher who had the full thing memorized. Pretty impressive if I say so myself, considering how much work it took for me to memorize one of Shakespeare's sonnets for him: and those have an easier meter! It's going to take forever, isn't it? I never played this game. I read that the character chosen should be at least as famous as Botticelli, but it makes me wonder how famous Botticelli actually is. If I throw a rock and hit someone in a crowd, I'm not sure he would know who Botticelli was... Besides this, it's all relative. Playing Easytech games, we all know Manstein or Guderian, but I don't think that they could be chosen outside of this forum, for instance. You're not wrong about it being all relative! In fact, and don't consider this an official hint because I might just be making this up, I may have picked someone affiliated with EasyTech games for an easy start of this game. But Theron of Acragas is definitely right in that Botticelli takes a different way of thinking; best choice is to stump me to narrow it down, then force me into a corner where my answers have to essentially reveal the person. Remember that if you can get me down to a category with the only person I can think of is my person, then I must admit defeat.
I have also updated the known information list above to add the stump, and will add the person as well (plus the direct information I will be forced to divulge.)
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Post by blueberry on Feb 12, 2024 12:35:47 GMT
Yes, but it takes forever to narrow it down to a category. The information that you never portrayed Hamlet on screen is useless if you are not an actor. Tha fastest way I can think of to get to the end of the gane is to ask specific questions to rule out specific persons: - were you ever known as "Crimson demon of war"? - did you capture Izmail in 1790? - did you lead a slave revolt in 73-71 b.C.? - did you fight in the battle of Jena-Auerstedt on the side of the French? - did you fight in the battle of Jena-Auerstedt on the side of the Prussians? - have you ever been a colonel in the CSA army? - is your second name Tecumseh? - have you ever commanded the cavalry corps of the Army of the Potomac?
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Post by blueberry on Feb 12, 2024 12:45:25 GMT
I forgot about EW7. Did you defeat the crusaders at the battle of Hattin?
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Feb 12, 2024 13:36:41 GMT
blueberry Perhaps you still haven't quite gotten the point. The point of stumping isn't really what it rules out. After a stumping, you get to ask one question to which the answer must be a simple yes or no, just like traditional Who am I / 20 questions. Thus, after stumping Airi on the first page, I was able to ask and rule out all fictional characters. Now after another stumping, as well as ruling out actors who've played Hamlet, I get another free question to narrow it down again. So it only takes a few stumpings to narrow it down enough to try brute force. Having said that, the kind of questions you've listed aren't bad, because apart from ruling out specific people, there's always a chance that Airi doesn't know who you're thinking of and you get a stumping (should probably be one question at a time though).
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Feb 12, 2024 13:44:18 GMT
Airi Momoi I was thinking of Innokenty Smoktunovsky, who played Hamlet in the 1964 black and white Lenfilm adaptation (considered by many even outside the Soviet Union as the best film adaptation of the play). Haven't watched it myself, but I intend to some day. Are you European?
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Post by blueberry on Feb 12, 2024 13:49:02 GMT
Ok, I missed that point, but then it just becomes a matter of making questions about something I know that probably he doesn't. For instance, I might be a big tennis fan (I'm not), and ask something like "are you a tennis player born in Südtirol?", and if he isn't Italian he probably won't know I'm thinking of Jannik Sinner, and then I get a direct question. So the whole part of making indirect questions become irrelevant and you would get direct questions quite often. I don't find this game really fun, I'll leave it to someone more patient than I am
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Post by Airi Momoi on Feb 12, 2024 14:14:35 GMT
Airi Momoi I was thinking of Innokenty Smoktunovsky, who played Hamlet in the 1964 black and white Lenfilm adaptation (considered by many even outside the Soviet Union as the best film adaptation of the play). Haven't watched it myself, but I intend to some day. Are you European? Ah, to be honest the Lenfilm adaptation did not even cross my mind. Apparently Shostakovich wrote the score (hey, he could fit my person!) Yes, I am European, although my EasyTech hint perhaps was a little too much on the nose, as my person is in blueberry 's barrage of questions.
No, I am not Sanada Yukimura, nor am I Marshal Soult or Gerhard von Scharnhorst. I am neither the Union generals William Tecumseh Sherman nor Phil Sheridan. I also am not Salah al-Din, or better known as Saladin. I am not Spartacus! (So don't send me to execution!) I can't think of the colonel in the CSA, although I'm probably overlooking someone. But yes, I am Alexander Suvorov, which concludes our first game. Congratulations blueberry!
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