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Post by stoic on Aug 4, 2024 13:05:37 GMT
I use Rundstedt as a "pure" economist.  Otherwise it isn't that easy to find a second Technology expert between f2p generals (my first one is Dowding). I think that other generals can do a job of an Infantry general or an Air Force general just as fine as Rundstedt or even better, but few can outperform him as a resources' grinder |
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Post by resiphius on Aug 5, 2024 13:51:34 GMT
I use Rundstedt as a "pure" economist. Otherwise it isn't that easy to find a second Technology expert between f2p generals (my first one is Dowding). I think that other generals can do a job of an Infantry general or an Air Force general just as fine as Rundstedt or even better, but few can outperform him as a resources' grinder I’d say one Technology expert carrier is enough (mine being Arnold) especially in conquests and stages having several cities with labs, so if you only want pure resource gen, Tito and Tassigny would be better choice for money farmers than Rundstedt, while Arnold would be cheaper than him as industrial or technology point farmer. |
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Post by stoic on Aug 5, 2024 16:15:48 GMT
I use Rundstedt as a "pure" economist. Otherwise it isn't that easy to find a second Technology expert between f2p generals (my first one is Dowding). I think that other generals can do a job of an Infantry general or an Air Force general just as fine as Rundstedt or even better, but few can outperform him as a resources' grinder I’d say one Technology expert carrier is enough (mine being Arnold) especially in conquests and stages having several cities with labs, so if you only want pure resource gen, Tito and Tassigny would be better choice for money farmers than Rundstedt, while Arnold would be cheaper than him as industrial or technology point farmer. I think that 2 Technology experts are extremely helpful in conquests. And since we can deploy up to 30 generals it is possible to deploy both of them right from the start giving them some trash units to command somewhere behind the front line. And my Technology experts are money farmers at the same time. I am planning to use Arnold as Typhoon or Mi-24 Commander and that is a completely different build from economy oriented generals. |
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Post by Boss Tweed on Aug 6, 2024 17:12:08 GMT
Trade Rundstedt for Arnold? Why? One is infantry, the other is Air, except that for my Rundstedt, who is infantry, Air, and resource, for now..thanks to his gold tier standing, he can have two open skill slots, higher rank and health, more stars and makes it worth while to have 3 Ribbon slots improving overall skills. Aother reason I would never replace him with Arnold is that I also have Chennault, Dowding, and Yamamoto for Air and can easily include others like Nimitz, or even Monty f needed...but I dont. I have, though, been considering recruiting Arnold for the newer elite units like the Hind...but dropping Run for this? Nah. I have the space in HQ, medals and patience to make better decisions. Comparing a silver tier Air commander to a gold tier Infantry Commander isn't convincing and ....are apples and oranges. Imo being Inf/Air/Resource general is Rundstedt’s best build, as I find myself quite often need him in this configuration when playing 39 or 43 challenge conquests as non-Russia Eastern European countries or Egypt, his ability to quickly open the Asian front carried me through many speedruns. He's best for resources. And resource generals are terrible if they cannot put 2 economic skills. As an infantry general I just slap guerrilla on Arnold and he does literally what i would have made Rundstedt try to do: be an Infantry-air hybrid. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Aug 8, 2024 6:40:58 GMT
stoic’s build makes sense, but Dorado St. Sebastian’s doesn’t for me. Full Econ build could work in challenge conquests when Dowding and Chennault aren’t enough as double experts. However, an AF skill and an Econ skill will lead to an unfocused general that can do a little bit of everything but excel in none. With that build, Rundstedt isn’t much better than Kesselring, who we almost never mentioned. On infantry and economy he’s effectively Tito with 6 infantry stars, and he lacks the 6th star and carpet bombing as an air general. Rundstedt won’t be deployed in anywhere else other than challenge conquests because of his lack of quality, and in challenge conquests we have enough general slots that a multitasker like Rundstedt in AF+EE build is less effective than specialists like Meretskov and Arnold. Plus, I hardly appreciate combat ability on an air general.
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Post by zabadanov86 on Aug 8, 2024 7:01:11 GMT
You need economy generals only for conquests. In other missions pure air general Is very helpfull
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Post by Luigi Sansonetti on Aug 8, 2024 8:11:39 GMT
stoic ’s build makes sense, but Dorado St. Sebastian ’s doesn’t for me. Full Econ build could work in challenge conquests when Dowding and Chennault aren’t enough as double experts. However, an AF skill and an Econ skill will lead to an unfocused general that can do a little bit of everything but excel in none. With that build, Rundstedt isn’t much better than Kesselring, who we almost never mentioned. On infantry and economy he’s effectively Tito with 6 infantry stars, and he lacks the 6th star and carpet bombing as an air general. Rundstedt won’t be deployed in anywhere else other than challenge conquests because of his lack of quality, and in challenge conquests we have enough general slots that a multitasker like Rundstedt in AF+EE build is less effective than specialists like Meretskov and Arnold. Plus, I hardly appreciate combat ability on an air general. Would an economist Nimitz be viable? |
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Post by Luigi Sansonetti on Aug 8, 2024 8:21:09 GMT
Imo being Inf/Air/Resource general is Rundstedt’s best build, as I find myself quite often need him in this configuration when playing 39 or 43 challenge conquests as non-Russia Eastern European countries or Egypt, his ability to quickly open the Asian front carried me through many speedruns. He's best for resources. And resource generals are terrible if they cannot put 2 economic skills. As an infantry general I just slap guerrilla on Arnold and he does literally what i would have made Rundstedt try to do: be an Infantry-air hybrid. I see Arnold as a potential helicopter general. |
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Post by zabadanov86 on Aug 8, 2024 9:15:31 GMT
He's best for resources. And resource generals are terrible if they cannot put 2 economic skills. As an infantry general I just slap guerrilla on Arnold and he does literally what i would have made Rundstedt try to do: be an Infantry-air hybrid. I see Arnold as a potential helicopter general.  I have the same opinion. |
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Post by stoic on Aug 8, 2024 9:46:23 GMT
I see Arnold as a potential helicopter general. I have the same opinion. I am doing the same but I have chosen IV instead of Explosives. |
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Post by Luigi Sansonetti on Aug 8, 2024 9:54:53 GMT
I see Arnold as a potential helicopter general. I have the same opinion. I don't think Explosives work with any air units including helicopters |
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Post by stoic on Aug 8, 2024 11:15:31 GMT
I have the same opinion. I don't think Explosives work with any air units including helicopters I recall someone tested it and said it does work... |
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Post by zabadanov86 on Aug 8, 2024 11:15:59 GMT
I know about air units, but im not sure for chopers...
My logic Is this: you will not Send chopers as main attack force, you will Send them behind enemy lines with skytrained infantry to capture low guarded cities as fast as possible.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Aug 9, 2024 5:57:28 GMT
stoic ’s build makes sense, but Dorado St. Sebastian ’s doesn’t for me. Full Econ build could work in challenge conquests when Dowding and Chennault aren’t enough as double experts. However, an AF skill and an Econ skill will lead to an unfocused general that can do a little bit of everything but excel in none. With that build, Rundstedt isn’t much better than Kesselring, who we almost never mentioned. On infantry and economy he’s effectively Tito with 6 infantry stars, and he lacks the 6th star and carpet bombing as an air general. Rundstedt won’t be deployed in anywhere else other than challenge conquests because of his lack of quality, and in challenge conquests we have enough general slots that a multitasker like Rundstedt in AF+EE build is less effective than specialists like Meretskov and Arnold. Plus, I hardly appreciate combat ability on an air general. Would an economist Nimitz be viable? That’s the best build for Nimitz, since we have plenty of better options for navy. Both Nimitz and Rundstedt are behind Chennault and Dowding as economist. Rundstedt is cheaper while Nimitz starts off with more air stars. |
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Post by Dorado St. Sebastian on Aug 11, 2024 18:02:59 GMT
Why does my Rundstedt look like this?  Because he is still in transition for skill changes as I have 31 commanders of which two are resource/air hybrids...and also subject to changes. I dont have 10s of thousands of medals just lying around   We have two new elite ACs, a Typhoon, and Mi-24 Hind and am considering adding Yamaguchi to free up my Yamamoto, and adding Arnold and Weidling. I have also upgraded Rokosovsky, who has a defenseive skill vs missiles for Cold War and have to consider commanders for T72, engineer, the Auf spg, among others...Rundstedt upgrades arent top priority until i figure out who goes where and with what. For an xample of the things I am contemplating,... camouflage skill for the Hind pilot, whomever that may be, and being able to fund everything. As you can see, i have to be mindful of expenditures, especially with 31 officers atm, and more to come.... 8-10k average medals per commander since 2019. It takes a while. Rund may just have to settle for carpet bombing, instead of economy and pound cities he is near then capture. With his elastic defense and street fighting, he seems more ideal for city capture and defense. Free advice is always welcomed, especially criticisms on unfinished projects😉. (My only question...🤔...."how'd my Rundstedt become the star of a Meretskov thread?")😁 |
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