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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on May 3, 2016 11:02:43 GMT
I really don't want to get into politics especially since this is currently a hot debated issue in the USA with the $20 bill and so on. Jackson pretty much went against the Second Bank of the United States of America and Nullification Crisis caused some states to almost secede. Jackson likely has economic master thanks to him claiming to be for the average American in the 1832 election in fighting the Second Bank of the USA. I kindly ask everybody to not get political at all since this is a very controversial topic I'm convinced Easytech just throws random skills on generals. I wouldn't delve too deeply into the meaning of their skill just random? Dude, there should be a word for the randomness easytech does. Ever seen Andrade on Portugal 1809? His skills make him the least useful general of the game!. |
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Post by Józef Poniatowski on May 3, 2016 11:26:27 GMT
I'm convinced Easytech just throws random skills on generals. I wouldn't delve too deeply into the meaning of their skill just random? Dude, there should be a word for the randomness easytech does. Ever seen Andrade on Portugal 1809? His skills make him the least useful general of the game!. At one time i bought him because i thought his skills vaguely useful...then I realized cav cant build fortifications and simply restarted as I have given him full movement and 4 cav stars |
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Post by Conrad von Hotzendorf on May 3, 2016 17:43:58 GMT
Washington. He spent most of the war of independence running away and for that he gets defense art. Genius
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Post by Washington on May 3, 2016 18:04:39 GMT
NEVER FORGET WILHELM! He should have no skills or stars, except defensive art because it makes him as stupid to fight as he was irl Also I think Jackson deserves to be on the list, he beat the crap out of innocent, defenseless natives and literally singlehandedly caused the first great financial crisis in US history, and his history as a commander certainly is not as legendary as he is made out to be. Question: Why Jackson has Economic Master while he caused an economic disaster? He is the only President to pay the national deficit as a whole Erich von Manstein , |
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Post by Washington on May 3, 2016 18:10:07 GMT
Washington. He spent most of the war of independence running away and for that he gets defense art. Genius Well Washington, gets leadership due to the fact of raising morale during the revolution and also economic master for his diplomatic skills with other nations and trading with former enemies but you're right about D art , he used intentionally retreat tactics but did basically Hit and runs and did surprise attacks |
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Post by Conrad von Hotzendorf on May 3, 2016 19:56:44 GMT
Washington. He spent most of the war of independence running away and for that he gets defense art. Genius Well Washington, gets leadership due to the fact of raising morale during the revolution and also economic master for his diplomatic skills with other nations and trading with former enemies but you're right about D art , he used intentionally retreat tactics but did basically Hit and runs and did surprise attacks so maybe assault art due to surprise attacks e.g. the crossing of the Delaware river |
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Post by Jean Lannes on May 3, 2016 21:32:16 GMT
so maybe assault art due to surprise attacks e.g. the crossing of the Delaware river Or defense art because of Bunker Hill, I know it wasn't really at Bunker Hill and it was a defeat but the defense was pretty good. You could also give him logistics for Valley Forge |
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Post by General William T. Sherman on May 3, 2016 21:48:29 GMT
NEVER FORGET WILHELM! He should have no skills or stars, except defensive art because it makes him as stupid to fight as he was irl Also I think Jackson deserves to be on the list, he beat the crap out of innocent, defenseless natives and literally singlehandedly caused the first great financial crisis in US history, and his history as a commander certainly is not as legendary as he is made out to be. Question: Why Jackson has Economic Master while he caused an economic disaster? U.S presidents are my personal expertise, i can probably tell you some random fact about each one. Jackson went against the Second Bank of the United States, claiming to be fighting for the average American citizen by doing so, but realistically he wanted to because the head of the bank, Nicholas Biddle, supported Jackson's political rival, Kentucky senator Henry Clay. Clay was Jackson's worst political rival during his time as president, and often he would take measures to root his supporters out of important positions. Thus, he hired numerous Secretaries of the Treasury to funnel money out of the Second Bank of the U.S into smaller, local banks which were typically more sympathetic to Jackson (I say numerous because most of his secretaries just wouldn't do it). The bank collapsed shortly before Jackson's second and final term ended, so the Financial Crisis wasn't (Initially) considered his fault and instead considered Martin van Bueren's, the next president, fault. Jackson, was arguably, insane and, also arguably, the closest we've had to a dictator in the United States. Jackson replaced certain officials in Washington with his own personal cronies, commenced the deportation of multiple Native American tribes in the Southeastern United States, and, when the supreme court ruled that the Native Americans had the right to remain on the land, Jackson said "The Supreme Court has made its decision, now let them enforce it". Defying the Supreme Court's decision is a big no-no in U.S government, only being defied a few later times (Most of those times involved cases involving segregation/slavery) Now this makes me think of a possible Alternate History scenario, what if Jackson established a dictatorship/monarchy in America? Monarchy isn't that likely, but still an interesting concept. |
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Post by Jean Lannes on May 3, 2016 21:56:43 GMT
Question: Why Jackson has Economic Master while he caused an economic disaster? U.S presidents are my personal expertise, i can probably tell you some random fact about each one. Jackson went against the Second Bank of the United States, claiming to be fighting for the average American citizen by doing so, but realistically he wanted to because the head of the bank, Nicholas Biddle, supported Jackson's political rival, Kentucky senator Henry Clay. Clay was Jackson's worst political rival during his time as president, and often he would take measures to root his supporters out of important positions. Thus, he hired numerous Secretaries of the Treasury to funnel money out of the Second Bank of the U.S into smaller, local banks which were typically more sympathetic to Jackson (I say numerous because most of his secretaries just wouldn't do it). The bank collapsed shortly before Jackson's second and final term ended, so the Financial Crisis wasn't (Initially) considered his fault and instead considered Martin van Bueren's, the next president, fault. Jackson, was arguably, insane and, also arguably, the closest we've had to a dictator in the United States. Jackson replaced certain officials in Washington with his own personal cronies, commenced the deportation of multiple Native American tribes in the Southeastern United States, and, when the supreme court ruled that the Native Americans had the right to remain on the land, Jackson said "The Supreme Court has made its decision, now let them enforce it". Defying the Supreme Court's decision is a big no-no in U.S government, only being defied a few later times (Most of those times involved cases involving segregation/slavery) Now this makes me think of a possible Alternate History scenario, what if Jackson established a dictatorship/monarchy in America? Monarchy isn't that likely, but still an interesting concept. it is possible that he could've done something like Napoléon on XVIII. Brumaire. But I doubt it |
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Post by Franz von Hipper on May 4, 2016 3:41:39 GMT
It should be remembered Washington had farmhands and rabble to work with, and that he had to build his force from the ground up, and also had very few expirienced and able commanders to help him. Its not like one man can run an entire army...which he tried to do you have to remember that most of the fame that went to Washington should've went to France. Without French support the rebels could've never won. 90% of their gun powder was French supplied, the French/Spanish navy held off most of the British navies, and the French actively fought in the colonies with their naval victory at Yorktown probably being the most important naval battle of the 18th Century Then why isn't Lafayette into the game? |
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Post by Jean Lannes on May 4, 2016 4:07:18 GMT
you have to remember that most of the fame that went to Washington should've went to France. Without French support the rebels could've never won. 90% of their gun powder was French supplied, the French/Spanish navy held off most of the British navies, and the French actively fought in the colonies with their naval victory at Yorktown probably being the most important naval battle of the 18th Century Then why isn't Lafayette into the game? I honestly don't know. he deserves to be in the game, easytech probably just forgot him like they possibly did with Bessières |
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Post by Franz von Hipper on May 4, 2016 12:31:49 GMT
Then why isn't Lafayette into the game? I honestly don't know. he deserves to be in the game, easytech probably just forgot him like they possibly did with Bessières They really take it easy when they make their games eh? You are right Bessière is a miss, but Lafayette is so well known, I am surprised he isnt there. |
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Post by Jean Lannes on May 4, 2016 12:50:57 GMT
I honestly don't know. he deserves to be in the game, easytech probably just forgot him like they possibly did with Bessières They really take it easy when they make their games eh? You are right Bessière is a miss, but Lafayette is so well known, I am surprised he isnt there. Lafayette is well known here in the Western world. I can imagine some weird reason why information about him could be blocked in the PRC |
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Post by Franz von Hipper on May 4, 2016 13:00:54 GMT
They really take it easy when they make their games eh? You are right Bessière is a miss, but Lafayette is so well known, I am surprised he isnt there. Lafayette is well known here in the Western world. I can imagine some weird reason why information about him could be blocked in the PRC But somehow they managed to get Dearborn and other American generals who are arguably less well known than Lafayette, just seems weird to me. |
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Post by Jean Lannes on May 4, 2016 13:14:33 GMT
Lafayette is well known here in the Western world. I can imagine some weird reason why information about him could be blocked in the PRC But somehow they managed to get Dearborn and other American generals who are arguably less well known than Lafayette, just seems weird to me. 1) They don't know him (seriously) 2) Information about him is censored 3) They didn't have enough time |
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