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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on May 6, 2016 1:58:29 GMT
Which one was worse?
Bessières was stupid, having failed to carry out effective charges again and again, and advising Napoleon against deploying the Guard at Borodino. If the Guard had been deployed, the Russian army would have been crushed.
Friedrich Wilhelm III had no knowledge of strategy, opposed much-needed modernization, and was generally a coward. He declared war on France too late. If he had done so around the time of Ulm and Austerlitz, he might have delivered a fatal blow to the Grande Armée, but he didn't. He declared war months later
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Post by Jean Lannes on May 6, 2016 2:50:00 GMT
As much as I hate Bessières for historical reasons he was a pretty good cavalry leader. He was just horrible when commanding an army. Someone (I don't remember exactly who) said something like "If Bessières can be a Marshal then everybody can"
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on May 6, 2016 3:03:25 GMT
As much as I hate Bessières for historical reasons he was a pretty good cavalry leader. He was just horrible when commanding an army. Someone (I don't remember exactly who) said something like "If Bessières can be a Marshal then everybody can" That was Marmont in 1804 |
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Post by Jean Lannes on May 6, 2016 3:06:53 GMT
As much as I hate Bessières for historical reasons he was a pretty good cavalry leader. He was just horrible when commanding an army. Someone (I don't remember exactly who) said something like "If Bessières can be a Marshal then everybody can" That was Marmont in 1804 Ah yes, for once Marmont does something right. |
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Post by Conrad von Hotzendorf on May 6, 2016 7:44:06 GMT
Which one was worse? Bessières was stupid, having failed to carry out effective charges again and again, and advising Napoleon against deploying the Guard at Borodino. If the Guard had been deployed, the Russian army would have been crushed. napoleon was also against using the guard so far from France. Charging with the guard may have won Borodino but would have cost them huge casualties while being to far too call for reinforcements from france |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on May 6, 2016 13:53:28 GMT
Which one was worse? Bessières was stupid, having failed to carry out effective charges again and again, and advising Napoleon against deploying the Guard at Borodino. If the Guard had been deployed, the Russian army would have been crushed. napoleon was also against using the guard so far from France. Charging with the guard may have won Borodino but would have cost them huge casualties while being to far too call for reinforcements from france Napoleon considered it. He would have been able to shatter the Russians with the Guard, but decided to preserve it. |
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Post by Washington on May 6, 2016 18:00:07 GMT
Which one was worse? Bessières was stupid, having failed to carry out effective charges again and again, and advising Napoleon against deploying the Guard at Borodino. If the Guard had been deployed, the Russian army would have been crushed. Friedrich Wilhelm III had no knowledge of strategy, opposed much-needed modernization, and was generally a coward. He declared war on France too late. If he had done so around the time of Ulm and Austerlitz, he might have delivered a fatal blow to the Grande Armée, but he didn't. He declared war months later But you have to admit, he was better in Peninsulary war |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on May 6, 2016 18:03:07 GMT
Which one was worse? Bessières was stupid, having failed to carry out effective charges again and again, and advising Napoleon against deploying the Guard at Borodino. If the Guard had been deployed, the Russian army would have been crushed. Friedrich Wilhelm III had no knowledge of strategy, opposed much-needed modernization, and was generally a coward. He declared war on France too late. If he had done so around the time of Ulm and Austerlitz, he might have delivered a fatal blow to the Grande Armée, but he didn't. He declared war months later But you have to admit, he was better in Peninsulary war And there, just as in Marengo, he underperformed. He was good, but not as good as one expects from a Maréchal d'Empire |
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Post by Jean Lannes on May 6, 2016 22:39:50 GMT
And there, just as in Marengo, he underperformed. He was good, but not as good as one expects from a Maréchal d'Empire Bessières was a soldier. Not a commander. People like Davout were commanders. Lannes for example was a hybrid of the two |
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