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Post by Jean Lannes on Jul 9, 2016 21:28:35 GMT
Also the Battle of Raszyn (idk how to spell it) where they beat the Austrians with 1/2 their army. The Polish and the Italians were probably Napoleon's best allies I don't believe the Italians ever did as beautifully as the Polish They did. Wagram is a perfect example of Italian bravery |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jul 9, 2016 21:49:13 GMT
I don't believe the Italians ever did as beautifully as the Polish They did. Wagram is a perfect example of Italian bravery But they didn't have AS MANY such instances as the Poles |
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Post by Jean Lannes on Jul 9, 2016 22:04:05 GMT
They did. Wagram is a perfect example of Italian bravery But they didn't have AS MANY such instances as the Poles Mostly because the Poles are more boasted about and saw more action as many Coalition Wars happened right next to them. Italy supplied like 200,000 men to Napoleon's Campaigns |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jul 9, 2016 22:05:10 GMT
But they didn't have AS MANY such instances as the Poles Mostly because the Poles are more boasted about and saw more action as many Coalition Wars happened right next to them. Italy supplied like 200,000 men to Napoleon's Campaigns True. The Italians fade into obscurity too easily |
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Post by Józef Poniatowski on Jul 10, 2016 17:11:09 GMT
Mostly because the Poles are more boasted about and saw more action as many Coalition Wars happened right next to them. Italy supplied like 200,000 men to Napoleon's Campaigns True. The Italians fade into obscurity too easily This is because the Italians lack a proper tradition/teaching for officers, and thus historically are plagued by a lack of initiative |
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Post by Józef Poniatowski on Jul 11, 2016 18:32:47 GMT
I think that alone is the biggest setback to any military; you can have the best equipment, the most able troops, and a strong morale, but without leadership you cannot win.
^^ Poland only has leadership normally, which is why we can put up a valiant effort
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Post by Conrad von Hotzendorf on Jul 12, 2016 23:14:47 GMT
True. The Italians fade into obscurity too easily This is because the Italians lack a proper tradition/teaching for officers, and thus historically are plagued by a lack of initiative they had leadership it's just that those leaders were hopelessly inept throughout history |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jul 12, 2016 23:20:43 GMT
This is because the Italians lack a proper tradition/teaching for officers, and thus historically are plagued by a lack of initiative they had leadership it's just that those leaders were hopelessly inept throughout history Or they followed a foreign leader (such as Napoleon) Józef Poniatowski and Jan Henryk Dąbrowski were very competent. They just followed the French |
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Post by Conrad von Hotzendorf on Jul 12, 2016 23:22:17 GMT
they had leadership it's just that those leaders were hopelessly inept throughout history Or they followed a foreign leader (such as Napoleon) Józef Poniatowski and Jan Henryk Dąbrowski were very competent. They just followed the French you mistook me. I was referring to Italy |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jul 12, 2016 23:27:06 GMT
Or they followed a foreign leader (such as Napoleon) Józef Poniatowski and Jan Henryk Dąbrowski were very competent. They just followed the French you mistook me. I was referring to Italy I haven't been keeping up properly. I guess I'm off to the Gulags, then. And the Italians had few good leaders since the fall of Rome |
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Post by europeanuniversalis on Jul 13, 2016 5:09:01 GMT
Poland is completely misrepresented because it didn't exist in the Napoleonic Wars.
There was however the Grand Duchy of Warsaw so calling it Poland isn't necessarily historically accurate.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jul 13, 2016 5:10:00 GMT
Poland is completely misrepresented because it didn't exist in the Napoleonic Wars. There was however the Grand Duchy of Warsaw so calling it Poland isn't necessarily historically accurate. That was purely a matter of name. It was a nation of the Poles, in the land of Poland. Semantics, if you may |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Jul 13, 2016 5:26:27 GMT
Poland is completely misrepresented because it didn't exist in the Napoleonic Wars. There was however the Grand Duchy of Warsaw so calling it Poland isn't necessarily historically accurate. wait! It was a country? It was Poland in some form compared to its future where it was divided again. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jul 13, 2016 5:27:51 GMT
Poland is completely misrepresented because it didn't exist in the Napoleonic Wars. There was however the Grand Duchy of Warsaw so calling it Poland isn't necessarily historically accurate. wait! It was a country? It was Poland in some form compared to its future where it was divided again. In fact, it was Poland in everything but name! |
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Post by europeanuniversalis on Jul 13, 2016 5:27:58 GMT
Poland is completely misrepresented because it didn't exist in the Napoleonic Wars. There was however the Grand Duchy of Warsaw so calling it Poland isn't necessarily historically accurate. That was purely a matter of name. It was a nation of the Poles, in the land of Poland. Semantics, if you may It was a nation of Poles but never called Poland. Calling it Poland isn't very accurate by the devs, Warsaw would've been a better title but also, who cares? It's a nation in the game. |
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