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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jul 8, 2016 16:45:25 GMT
WC3, obviously they've got the whole world, its WWII themed (which I'm more into than the Napoleonic Wars) and, most importantly, ITS GOT MANNERHEIM!!!! The great Finnish hero is in this game, which makes that much more great. Mannerheim is a reincarnation of Dobeln. So in a way Mannerheim is in EW4 too! |
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jul 8, 2016 16:47:48 GMT
WC3, obviously they've got the whole world, its WWII themed (which I'm more into than the Napoleonic Wars) and, most importantly, ITS GOT MANNERHEIM!!!! The great Finnish hero is in this game, which makes that much more great. Mannerheim is a reincarnation of Dobeln. So in a way Mannerheim is in EW4 too! But he isn't Finnish, which is the issue. Plus he didn't defend against the Soviets with immeasurable odds and was able to save his country from the Soviet Union. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jul 8, 2016 16:55:15 GMT
Mannerheim is a reincarnation of Dobeln. So in a way Mannerheim is in EW4 too! But he isn't Finnish, which is the issue. Plus he didn't defend against the Soviets with immeasurable odds and was able to save his country from the Soviet Union. True. On top of nationality, Mannerheim actually did hold off the Russians. Dobeln had to retreat |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Jul 8, 2016 17:11:01 GMT
But he isn't Finnish, which is the issue. Plus he didn't defend against the Soviets with immeasurable odds and was able to save his country from the Soviet Union. True. On top of nationality, Mannerheim actually did hold off the Russians. Dobeln had to retreat döbeln's country (Sweden) lost Finland after the war Mannerheim's country (Finland) lost a little bit of land to the Soviets after the war. |
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Jul 8, 2016 17:26:31 GMT
True. On top of nationality, Mannerheim actually did hold off the Russians. Dobeln had to retreat döbeln's country (Sweden) lost Finland after the war Mannerheim's country (Finland) lost a little bit of land to the Soviets after the war. Mannerheim pretty much won though even though his country lost the Karelian Isthmus, Petsamo, and had to lease a port to the Soviets near Helsinki, the Soviets really wanted to either annex (not that likely) Finland entirely or turn Finland into a pro-soviet puppet state. By defending his nation, he secured the Finnish nation from being taken over. Also, Mannerheim was perfectly fine with surrendering that land (even though most Finns wanted to keep it) because he figured that surrendering some land would be better then surrendering his entire country to the Soviets. |
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Post by Bismarck on Jul 8, 2016 18:53:08 GMT
PS2.
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Jul 8, 2016 18:56:45 GMT
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jul 8, 2016 18:59:36 GMT
He alive, but he leave the game boards |
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Post by Bismarck on Jul 8, 2016 21:36:27 GMT
I'm just going to be in World of Flames and Game Mods. Occasionaly the Officer's Lounge, but not often. |
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Post by Jean Lannes on Jul 9, 2016 3:28:40 GMT
True. On top of nationality, Mannerheim actually did hold off the Russians. Dobeln had to retreat döbeln's country (Sweden) lost Finland after the war Mannerheim's country (Finland) lost a little bit of land to the Soviets after the war. Mannerheim's "country" was Sweden not Finland. He spoke little Finnish and his native language had been Swedish. It's like calling Carlo Bonaparte (Napoleon's father) French. Also Döbeln did a fantastic job at holding off the Russians, in fact he was the only one who blocked the Russians from entering Stockholm |
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Post by Jean Lannes on Jul 9, 2016 3:29:33 GMT
He got killed chasing a fleeing enemy. His unit took revenge though Yet another Easytech inaccuracy in that level! Yeah, the person with the weak forces should be Lannes at Masséna with thousands of men behind them |
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Post by Laurent de Gouvion on Jul 9, 2016 4:05:36 GMT
True. On top of nationality, Mannerheim actually did hold off the Russians. Dobeln had to retreat döbeln's country (Sweden) lost Finland after the war Mannerheim's country (Finland) lost a little bit of land to the Soviets after the war. Döbeln had nothing to do with losing Finland. He actually won the Battle of Jutas against the Russians, but the next day his superior, Carl Johan Adlercreutz lost the Battle of Oravais. This battle made the situation in Finland untenable. I can't blame Adlercreutz though, the army in Finland was most of the time unsupported. |
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Post by Jean Lannes on Jul 9, 2016 5:47:47 GMT
döbeln's country (Sweden) lost Finland after the war Mannerheim's country (Finland) lost a little bit of land to the Soviets after the war. Döbeln had nothing to do with losing Finland. He actually won the Battle of Jutas against the Russians, but the next day his superior, Carl Johan Adlercreutz lost the Battle of Oravais. This battle made the situation in Finland untenable. I can't blame Adlercreutz though, the army in Finland was most of the time unsupported. Perfectly explained fellow Maréchal d'Empire. I'm glad we're having more people knowledged on the Napoleonic Wars |
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Post by Laurent de Gouvion on Jul 9, 2016 5:59:56 GMT
Gustav IV was a terrible king anyway, his lack of support where it was needed lost the war.
The guy who led the Russians was Buxhoeveden. The guy who was drunk at Austerlitz. How hard is it to beat him?
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Jul 9, 2016 6:01:48 GMT
Gustav IV was a terrible king anyway, his lack of support where it was needed lost the war. The guy who led the Russians was Buxhoeveden. The guy who was drunk at Austerlitz. How hard is it to beat him? Buxhoeveden also got beaten up badly in Austerlitz, right? |
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