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Post by Von Bismarck jr on Jul 20, 2016 6:17:52 GMT
Слободне Балкан Ундер Југославије ! Hello everyone! I have returned to Vicky 2! But not as my former Bismarck self, or a hardy swede... I NOW FIGHT FOR SERBIA! I have started a game as Serbia, and despite its small size and economic woes, things have gone relatively well. I annexed Montenegro in 1838-39, and I'm currently working on liberating South Serbia. My ulterior motives are to form Yugoslavia, and with the rise of Yugoslavia, liberate all the oppressed Balkan peoples! Albania! Greece! Bulgaria! Romania! All shall be free! December 1st, 1853 We have taken South Serbia back! The ottoman invaders nearly occupied all of Northern Serbia, but the armies managed to escape just in time, and meet up with Russian forces in Moldavia. From that point on, it was nothing but conquest as we marched through Wallachia and into Macedonia. Victory! September 11, 1860 The Russo-Serb Forces have triumphed again, this time taking North Macedonia! We still have a ways to go before Yugoslavia, but Serbia is very much alive! Next on our to do list: either take Bosnia, liberate a Greek state, or liberate Albania.
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Post by Von Bismarck jr on Jul 20, 2016 17:51:00 GMT
January 5, 1868 In a war lasting no more than 6 months, we have taken back Bosnia! The Sick Man of Europe will trouble us no longer! The only remaining core is Slavonia, in Austria, but this war will be fought harder and be bloodier.
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Jul 20, 2016 18:04:39 GMT
January 5, 1868 In a war lasting no more than 6 months, we have taken back Bosnia! The Sick Man of Europe will trouble us no longer! The only remaining core is Slavonia, in Austria, but this war will be fought harder and be bloodier. About Albania, you will integrate them once you form Yugoslavia I believe, same with Bulgaria. Bulgarian, Albanian, Croat, Serb, Slovene and Bosniak are all part of the Slavic culture group, so any nation with any of those cultures as their primary culture can be annexed if they're in your sphere of influence when you form Yugoslavia. So what I would do is: Spend the infamy to take over Albania, dont liberate it. If you force them to release it, then some great power might sphere them, which will just make your efforts to sphere them later on harder. So annex Albania. About Bulgaria DO NOT MAKE THE TURKS RELEASE THEM!!!! Bulgaria has cores on North Macedonia, which only means trouble for you. Save liberating them until you're a great power, because at that point Bulgaria can't attack you bc they're in your sphere.
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Post by Von Bismarck jr on Jul 20, 2016 19:26:45 GMT
January 5, 1868 In a war lasting no more than 6 months, we have taken back Bosnia! The Sick Man of Europe will trouble us no longer! The only remaining core is Slavonia, in Austria, but this war will be fought harder and be bloodier. About Albania, you will integrate them once you form Yugoslavia I believe, same with Bulgaria. Bulgarian, Albanian, Croat, Serb, Slovene and Bosniak are all part of the Slavic culture group, so any nation with any of those cultures as their primary culture can be annexed if they're in your sphere of influence when you form Yugoslavia. So what I would do is: Spend the infamy to take over Albania, dont liberate it. If you force them to release it, then some great power might sphere them, which will just make your efforts to sphere them later on harder. So annex Albania. About Bulgaria DO NOT MAKE THE TURKS RELEASE THEM!!!! Bulgaria has cores on North Macedonia, which only means trouble for you. Save liberating them until you're a great power, because at that point Bulgaria can't attack you bc they're in your sphere. K, no liberation for Albania. One problem is that Sick man decided to ally with the NGF, Russia probably won't be able to fight them unless they mobilize. How do I take Slavonia? Italy has formed, and wiki says an Italg is a good ally to have against Austria now that the minor states are gone. But...really though?
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Jul 20, 2016 19:38:02 GMT
About Albania, you will integrate them once you form Yugoslavia I believe, same with Bulgaria. Bulgarian, Albanian, Croat, Serb, Slovene and Bosniak are all part of the Slavic culture group, so any nation with any of those cultures as their primary culture can be annexed if they're in your sphere of influence when you form Yugoslavia. So what I would do is: Spend the infamy to take over Albania, dont liberate it. If you force them to release it, then some great power might sphere them, which will just make your efforts to sphere them later on harder. So annex Albania. About Bulgaria DO NOT MAKE THE TURKS RELEASE THEM!!!! Bulgaria has cores on North Macedonia, which only means trouble for you. Save liberating them until you're a great power, because at that point Bulgaria can't attack you bc they're in your sphere. K, no liberation for Albania. One problem is that Sick man decided to ally with the NGF, Russia probably won't be able to fight them unless they mobilize. How do I take Slavonia? Italy has formed, and wiki says an Italg is a good ally to have against Austria now that the minor states are gone. But...really though? Well...depends. Italy is either really good or really sucky. 1st: What is their military score compared to Austrias? 2nd: Tell me what regions they own 3rd: Who is Austria allied with?
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Post by Von Bismarck jr on Jul 20, 2016 20:54:44 GMT
K, no liberation for Albania. One problem is that Sick man decided to ally with the NGF, Russia probably won't be able to fight them unless they mobilize. How do I take Slavonia? Italy has formed, and wiki says an Italg is a good ally to have against Austria now that the minor states are gone. But...really though? Well...depends. Italy is either really good or really sucky. 1st: What is their military score compared to Austrias? 2nd: Tell me what regions they own 3rd: Who is Austria allied with? Just took Ottoman Montenegro. Victory! Anyways, Austria is allied with Würtemberg, Baden, and...France... I'm allied with Greece (ottoman reasons) and Russia, but France and Russia are allied as well. Italy is crappy now. Austria took Venetia and Emilia, so only northern part left is the former Sardinia-Piedmont provinces. Sooo...I don't think I can ever make Yugoslav...
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Jul 20, 2016 21:17:24 GMT
Well...depends. Italy is either really good or really sucky. 1st: What is their military score compared to Austrias? 2nd: Tell me what regions they own 3rd: Who is Austria allied with? Just took Ottoman Montenegro. Victory! Anyways, Austria is allied with Würtemberg, Baden, and...France... I'm allied with Greece (ottoman reasons) and Russia, but France and Russia are allied as well. Italy is crappy now. Austria took Venetia and Emilia, so only northern part left is the former Sardinia-Piedmont provinces. Sooo...I don't think I can ever make Yugoslav... 1: Dont be pessimistic! Whats the year, like 1850 still? Remember that the game goes until 1936, so you have plenty of time. 2: How is France allied with both Russia and Austria? Aren't they both great powers? If they are both great powers, then France will break their alliance with either Austria or Russia. Just hope its Austria!!! 3: Italy will sometimes done goof. Thats fine. 4: Okay, has Germany formed? Im assuming not bc Baden and Wurtemburg are a thing still. So, heres the action plan comrade: Operation Advantage: -Go to war with Austria to take Vojvodina (Slavonia) when Prussia attacks them in their War of Hegemony. -If France is still allied with Austria at this time, then they'll be too focused with Prussia to really care about some Balkan nation. -The main Austrian army will be fighting Prussia, and, bc Prussia is just a BEAST, their army will typically get rofl stomped. -If Russia says maybe or even likely to entering the war, maybe you shouldn't do it. Just saying. If this plan doesn't seem good for you, heres another option. You know those national foci? Well, if you place one in a region which has cores of yours but you dont presently own it, you can place your national focus there to increase tension. What tension does is that, once a region reaches 100% tension, a crisis will occur. In this crisis, great powers can support one side or the other. If your side wins, you get the region-for FREE.
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Post by Von Bismarck jr on Jul 20, 2016 22:10:27 GMT
Just took Ottoman Montenegro. Victory! Anyways, Austria is allied with Würtemberg, Baden, and...France... I'm allied with Greece (ottoman reasons) and Russia, but France and Russia are allied as well. Italy is crappy now. Austria took Venetia and Emilia, so only northern part left is the former Sardinia-Piedmont provinces. Sooo...I don't think I can ever make Yugoslav... 1: Dont be pessimistic! Whats the year, like 1850 still? Remember that the game goes until 1936, so you have plenty of time. 2: How is France allied with both Russia and Austria? Aren't they both great powers? If they are both great powers, then France will break their alliance with either Austria or Russia. Just hope its Austria!!! 3: Italy will sometimes done goof. Thats fine. 4: Okay, has Germany formed? Im assuming not bc Baden and Wurtemburg are a thing still. So, heres the action plan comrade: Operation Advantage: -Go to war with Austria to take Vojvodina (Slavonia) when Prussia attacks them in their War of Hegemony. -If France is still allied with Austria at this time, then they'll be too focused with Prussia to really care about some Balkan nation. -The main Austrian army will be fighting Prussia, and, bc Prussia is just a BEAST, their army will typically get rofl stomped. -If Russia says maybe or even likely to entering the war, maybe you shouldn't do it. Just saying. If this plan doesn't seem good for you, heres another option. You know those national foci? Well, if you place one in a region which has cores of yours but you dont presently own it, you can place your national focus there to increase tension. What tension does is that, once a region reaches 100% tension, a crisis will occur. In this crisis, great powers can support one side or the other. If your side wins, you get the region-for FREE. Thing is, it's not 1850: It's 1875 Italy formed but lost those provinces, Russia lost GP status. You know me, I play late into the night lasting early in the morning. Only hope I think I have right now is to sneak into Slavonia while Austria is in a crisis war
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Post by Paradoxstrategy on Jul 22, 2016 0:06:57 GMT
do not liberate any thing, you need Croatia and Slovenia as well to form Yugoslavia. I have done I before...so boring.
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Post by Desophaeus on Jul 22, 2016 0:23:21 GMT
No shame in start again in 1836 with Serbia once more. Serbia isn't the easiest country to play, I'm sure. I haven't played Vi2, but I can tell that there's easier countries to pick from.
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Post by Von Bismarck jr on Jul 22, 2016 4:47:59 GMT
No shame in start again in 1836 with Serbia once more. Serbia isn't the easiest country to play, I'm sure. I haven't played Vi2, but I can tell that there's easier countries to pick from. Im doing so well, though! I know I had the ottomans to fight,and with Russia that's easy, but none of the Great Powers will be my ally now. Prussia an France don wanna be my fwend!
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Post by Desophaeus on Jul 22, 2016 5:31:33 GMT
No shame in start again in 1836 with Serbia once more. Serbia isn't the easiest country to play, I'm sure. I haven't played Vi2, but I can tell that there's easier countries to pick from. Im doing so well, though! I know I had the ottomans to fight,and with Russia that's easy, but none of the Great Powers will be my ally now. Prussia an France don wanna be my fwend! Why? You should had cultivated something of a diplomatic relationship with Prussia or France the whole time.
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Post by Von Bismarck jr on Jul 22, 2016 8:37:02 GMT
Im doing so well, though! I know I had the ottomans to fight,and with Russia that's easy, but none of the Great Powers will be my ally now. Prussia an France don wanna be my fwend! Why? You should had cultivated something of a diplomatic relationship with Prussia or France the whole time. I was! I built as great relationships as I could, 200 for both of them. I got out of Russia's sphere a few times, but they still wouldn't ally me. So I'd gooo back to Russia, then they lost Gp status, and now no GP that would actually help me wants me.
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Post by Desophaeus on Jul 22, 2016 8:50:26 GMT
Why? You should had cultivated something of a diplomatic relationship with Prussia or France the whole time. I was! I built as great relationships as I could, 200 for both of them. I got out of Russia's sphere a few times, but they still wouldn't ally me. So I'd gooo back to Russia, then they lost Gp status, and now no GP that would actually help me wants me. Oh hmmm... www.victoria2wiki.com/RelationI guess you didn't give them military access which might help, and I guess there's other things that you did or didn't that are on this list that would affect relationships to the point where they refused to be allied with you. That or... Is alliances restricted to a certain limit of how far apart the countries rank in strength? For EU4, there's a restriction on setting a nation as your rival but not alliance based on how strong or weak a country is. As Milian or somebody tiny, I wouldn't be able to set England as a rival but I would be able to set the Papal States as a rival, for example.
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Jul 22, 2016 11:17:02 GMT
Why? You should had cultivated something of a diplomatic relationship with Prussia or France the whole time. I was! I built as great relationships as I could, 200 for both of them. I got out of Russia's sphere a few times, but they still wouldn't ally me. So I'd gooo back to Russia, then they lost Gp status, and now no GP that would actually help me wants me. What it might be is that either you or those GP's have too many alliances. Prussia/NGF typically allies all those little nations, France builds up a large sphere, U.K allies all her indian states, etc. etc. Or, maybe you have too many alliances. This could be a factor but dont trust me on this.
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