al3x
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Post by al3x on Aug 5, 2016 23:39:11 GMT
I think I have a sound idea about how East & West Germany could be in the game for 1950 &1960 eras.
The only problem I can see is would be who gets what cities in Germany.
East Germany:
As for cities I think they should get the city in East Prussia and Berlin. Since Berlin was the capital of the E Germany and the city in East Prussia that should have been part of Poland anyway but I think we can just give this to East Germany since they are all part of the Iron curtain etc.. AND please, take Prague out of the game after WW2, like what Easytech did with Vienna in 1960, since it is the capital of Czechoslovakia. Or even better, make Austria and Czechoslovakia neutral countries like what Yugoslavia is.
So that would give E Germany two cities being Berlin and the city in E Prussia (Königsberg/Kaliningrad?).
As for units, I think they should use the Soviet models.
As for color I think that we could do away with the grey color that Germany used in the 39 & 43 eras. As sort of a representation that they are a new country and have nothing to do with National Socialism or any previous German Reichs. My color vote would be a variation of orange.
West Germany:
I think Cologne should be removed and replaced with the city of Bonn since that was the capital of West Germany. This city could be in the tile south east of where Cologne is now. That would give West Germany a total of two cities being Munich and Bonn.
As for units I think they should use the American models imo.
As for color my vote would be a varient of green or yellow.
Conclusion:
Since both East and West have only two cities I think they could be either 1 or 2 stars depending on their starting units and city capability but my vote would be 1star each.
I realize this idea would never make it in the game unfortunately but I like to speculate.
If you were to put East Germany in the game how would you do it?
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Aug 5, 2016 23:48:15 GMT
A) Czechoslovakia should be WTO, it was IRL. Austria should have been independent and neutral.
B) I agree with the config of cities, but I think West Germany would need a port up North, and maybe Hamburg right next to it. And the Bundeswehr should have American units, as it did IRL
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 6, 2016 0:13:16 GMT
A) Czechoslovakia should be WTO, it was IRL. Austria should have been independent and neutral. B) I agree with the config of cities, but I think West Germany would need a port up North, and maybe Hamburg right next to it. And the Bundeswehr should have American units, as it did IRL A: I conpletely agree. I need Czechia. Also, I plan to mod WC3 someday (see the "your update for WC3" thread), so I will probably add a villiage for Bratislava. B. Here is how it should be: East Prussia: part of Soviet Union East Germany: Berlin, A ciity in the SE of Germany called Dresden, The port of Konigsberg. one Star, WTO. Gens: Paulus, cold war gens West Germany: A port next to Denmark called Rostock, Colonge, Munich, 2-star, NATO. Gens: Manstein, Donitz, Mantuffel Edit 1: Colour: East: Brown-Gray West: like THird Reich's colour |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Aug 6, 2016 0:23:08 GMT
A) Czechoslovakia should be WTO, it was IRL. Austria should have been independent and neutral. B) I agree with the config of cities, but I think West Germany would need a port up North, and maybe Hamburg right next to it. And the Bundeswehr should have American units, as it did IRL A: I conpletely agree. I need Czechia. Also, I plan to mod WC3 someday (see the your update for WC3 thread), so I will probably add a villiage for Bratislava. B. Here is how it should be: East Prussia: part of Soviet Union East Germany: Berlin, A ciity in the SE of Germany called Dresden, The port of Konigsberg. one Star, WTO. Gens: Paulus, cold war gens West Germany: A port next to Denmark called Rostock, Colonge, Munich, 2-star, NATO. Gens: Manstein, Donitz, Mantuffel Donitz didn't serve post-WWII. Guderian, Manstein, and Manteuffel all did take part in the rebuilding of the Bundeswehr though |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 6, 2016 0:30:09 GMT
A: I conpletely agree. I need Czechia. Also, I plan to mod WC3 someday (see the your update for WC3 thread), so I will probably add a villiage for Bratislava. B. Here is how it should be: East Prussia: part of Soviet Union East Germany: Berlin, A ciity in the SE of Germany called Dresden, The port of Konigsberg. one Star, WTO. Gens: Paulus, cold war gens West Germany: A port next to Denmark called Rostock, Colonge, Munich, 2-star, NATO. Gens: Manstein, Donitz, Mantuffel Donitz didn't serve post-WWII. Guderian, Manstein, and Manteuffel all did take part in the rebuilding of the Bundeswehr though Oh, I should've added Guderian as a spawn. My bad. And I add donitz in 1950. 1960 he can be replaced by a battleship. Paulus is here because of need of gens. Anyone knows of a good E. German Gen for Dresden and spawn? |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Aug 6, 2016 0:34:04 GMT
Donitz didn't serve post-WWII. Guderian, Manstein, and Manteuffel all did take part in the rebuilding of the Bundeswehr though Oh, I should've added Guderian as a spawn. My bad. And I add donitz in 1950. 1960 he can be replaced by a battleship. Paulus is here because of need of gens. Anyone knows of a good E. German Gen for Dresden and spawn? It can't be a WWII one, given Hitler's approach to Communists (purge) |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 6, 2016 0:39:38 GMT
Oh, I should've added Guderian as a spawn. My bad. And I add donitz in 1950. 1960 he can be replaced by a battleship. Paulus is here because of need of gens. Anyone knows of a good E. German Gen for Dresden and spawn? It can't be a WWII one, given Hitler's approach to Communists (purge) I mean cold war gens, like en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_Hoffmann |
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al3x
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Post by al3x on Aug 6, 2016 0:53:15 GMT
A) Czechoslovakia should be WTO, it was IRL. Austria should have been independent and neutral. B) I agree with the config of cities, but I think West Germany would need a port up North, and maybe Hamburg right next to it. And the Bundeswehr should have American units, as it did IRL A: I conpletely agree. I need Czechia. Also, I plan to mod WC3 someday (see the "your update for WC3" thread), so I will probably add a villiage for Bratislava. B. Here is how it should be: East Prussia: part of Soviet Union East Germany: Berlin, A ciity in the SE of Germany called Dresden, The port of Konigsberg. one Star, WTO. Gens: Paulus, cold war gens West Germany: A port next to Denmark called Rostock, Colonge, Munich, 2-star, NATO. Gens: Manstein, Donitz, Mantuffel Edit 1: Colour: East: Brown-Gray West: like THird Reich's colour I really think your version of East Germany should be a 2 star in that case. I mean how many other 1 star countries have 2 cities and a port plus generals? Lol Side note, Wikipedia tells me that the Nationale Volksarmee or NVA, which was the E German military, was one of the strongest militaries in the Warsaw Pact. Also they were outfitted with "large numbers of modern weapon systems" (most of Soviet origin of course). As far as generals go, the closest you could get to historical accuracy would be to give them no-eyes gens imo. That could also give you more balancing options too. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Aug 6, 2016 0:57:52 GMT
A: I conpletely agree. I need Czechia. Also, I plan to mod WC3 someday (see the "your update for WC3" thread), so I will probably add a villiage for Bratislava. B. Here is how it should be: East Prussia: part of Soviet Union East Germany: Berlin, A ciity in the SE of Germany called Dresden, The port of Konigsberg. one Star, WTO. Gens: Paulus, cold war gens West Germany: A port next to Denmark called Rostock, Colonge, Munich, 2-star, NATO. Gens: Manstein, Donitz, Mantuffel Edit 1: Colour: East: Brown-Gray West: like THird Reich's colour I really think your version of East Germany should be a 2 star in that case. I mean how many other 1 star countries have 2 cities and a port plus generals? Lol Side note, Wikipedia tells me that the Nationale Volksarmee or NVA, which was the E German military, was one of the strongest militaries in the Warsaw Pact. Also they were outfitted with "large numbers of modern weapon systems" (most of Soviet origin of course). As far as generals go, the closest you could get to historical accuracy would be to give them no-eyes gens imo. That could also give you more balancing options too. Either that or original gens |
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al3x
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Post by al3x on Aug 6, 2016 0:57:55 GMT
A: I conpletely agree. I need Czechia. Also, I plan to mod WC3 someday (see the "your update for WC3" thread), so I will probably add a villiage for Bratislava. B. Here is how it should be: East Prussia: part of Soviet Union East Germany: Berlin, A ciity in the SE of Germany called Dresden, The port of Konigsberg. one Star, WTO. Gens: Paulus, cold war gens West Germany: A port next to Denmark called Rostock, Colonge, Munich, 2-star, NATO. Gens: Manstein, Donitz, Mantuffel Edit 1: Colour: East: Brown-Gray West: like THird Reich's colour I really think your version of East Germany should be a 2 star in that case. I mean how many other 1 star countries have 2 cities and a port plus generals? Lol Side note, Wikipedia tells me that the Nationale Volksarmee or NVA, which was the E German military, was one of the strongest militaries in the Warsaw Pact. Also they were outfitted with "large numbers of modern weapon systems" (most of Soviet origin of course). As far as generals go, the closest you could get to historical accuracy would be to give them no-eyes gens imo. That could also give you more balancing options too. I didn't think of putting in new legit cold war gens. That makes more sense. |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 6, 2016 1:09:17 GMT
I really think your version of East Germany should be a 2 star in that case. I mean how many other 1 star countries have 2 cities and a port plus generals? Lol Side note, Wikipedia tells me that the Nationale Volksarmee or NVA, which was the E German military, was one of the strongest militaries in the Warsaw Pact. Also they were outfitted with "large numbers of modern weapon systems" (most of Soviet origin of course). As far as generals go, the closest you could get to historical accuracy would be to give them no-eyes gens imo. That could also give you more balancing options too. I didn't think of putting in new legit cold war gens. That makes more sense. Especially I'm planning to mod it. |
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Post by Washington on Aug 6, 2016 17:56:28 GMT
Berlin.
Dresden.
Halle.
Leipzig.
Magdeburg.
Potsdam.
Cities in East german Control
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Post by Washington on Aug 6, 2016 17:57:28 GMT
Bonn Magburg Cologne and Hamburg for West
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 6, 2016 19:31:19 GMT
Bonn Magburg Cologne and Hamburg for West That's too much cities; West will have 3, East 1 or 2. |
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