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Post by Franz von Hipper on Aug 28, 2016 5:37:18 GMT
Beside not knowing if this was already done, I am wondering who do you believe is the most competent commander in the Napoleonic Wars. Please explain your choices in the comments.
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Post by Frederick the Great on Aug 28, 2016 6:34:35 GMT
Nelson because his unorthodox tactics led to Britain's victory in one of the most decisive naval battles ever: the Battle of Trafalgar. Nelson's victory saved Britain from invasion by crushing the Franco-Spanish fleet.
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Post by Franz von Hipper on Aug 28, 2016 6:39:53 GMT
Nelson because his unorthodox tactics led to Britain's victory in one of the most decisive naval battles ever: the Battle of Trafalgar. Nelson's victory saved Britain from invasion by crushing the Franco-Spanish fleet. I have been a big fan of Nelson since visiting the HMS Victory. Clearly the best naval commander of that era. He effectivrly thwarted french plans at both the Battle of the Nile and the Battle of Trafalgar. |
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Post by Frederick the Great on Aug 28, 2016 6:45:43 GMT
Nelson because his unorthodox tactics led to Britain's victory in one of the most decisive naval battles ever: the Battle of Trafalgar. Nelson's victory saved Britain from invasion by crushing the Franco-Spanish fleet. I have been a big fan of Nelson since visiting the HMS Victory. Clearly the best naval commander of that era. He effectively thwarted french plans at both the Battle of the Nile and the Battle of Trafalgar. Oh yeah he had major victories at Cape St Vincent, Copenhagen, the Nile, Trafalgar and I think there was one more big victory but I can't remember. I've always wanted to visit HMS Victory but I live in Australia so its a long drive |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Aug 28, 2016 6:50:42 GMT
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Post by Franz von Hipper on Aug 28, 2016 6:56:33 GMT
I have been a big fan of Nelson since visiting the HMS Victory. Clearly the best naval commander of that era. He effectively thwarted french plans at both the Battle of the Nile and the Battle of Trafalgar. Oh yeah he had major victories at Cape St Vincent, Copenhagen, the Nile, Trafalgar and I think there was one more big victory but I can't remember. I've always wanted to visit HMS Victory but I live in Australia so its a long drive I really recommend it, since you also visit a few other ships, like the HMS Warrior, in Portsmouth after visiting it. Also I recommend the HMS Belfast who is located on the River Thames in London. |
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Post by Frederick the Great on Aug 28, 2016 7:00:49 GMT
Oh yeah he had major victories at Cape St Vincent, Copenhagen, the Nile, Trafalgar and I think there was one more big victory but I can't remember. I've always wanted to visit HMS Victory but I live in Australia so its a long drive I really recommend it, since you also visit a few other ships, like the HMS Warrior, in Portsmouth after visiting it. Also I recommend the HMS Belfast who is located on the River Thames in London. Its something I want to do but travelling to England isn't something I'll be able to do anytime soon unfortunetly. |
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Post by Franz von Hipper on Aug 28, 2016 7:05:40 GMT
Another great choice, I will always admire his maneuvering into the Swiss Alps. However it is sad we could not have saw the Generalissimo in action during most of the napoleonic wars. Also he had a pretty good student in Kutuzov. |
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Post by NetherFreek on Aug 28, 2016 7:49:59 GMT
For me its my fellow dutchie Suvorov! |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Aug 28, 2016 9:06:04 GMT
For me its my fellow dutchie Suvorov! Dutchmen Unite!! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 10:23:51 GMT
Who was competent at those times
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Post by Laurent de Gouvion on Aug 28, 2016 12:56:04 GMT
My vote goes to Napoleon and Barclay de Tolly, weirdly. For me, best commanders in each country: France: Napoleon Bonaparte. Destroyed the HRE and changed the way of warfare forever. Davout was pretty good, but Napoleon is emperor. Britain: Nelson. Lost Santa Cruz de Tenerife and the Boulogne Raid, but otherwise a very offensive and very good commander. Meanwhile Wellesley didn't attack that much and lost to Souham and Ney. Austria: The Archduke Charles. Style of war was conservative and geographic, but made Napoleom lose for the first time in Aspern-Essling due to choosing the right place.
Prussia: Blücher or Gneisenau. Marschall Vorwarts was the only person to beat Napoleon more than once and Waterloo was won because of his support. However he would have been nothing without Gneisenau.
Russia: Barclay de Tolly. Kutuzov was tactically better, but Kutuzov's conservatism. Did Scorched Earth and inflicted Napoleon's greatest defeat.
(Note: I didn't put Suvorov here since he died in 1800 and the Napoleonic Wars began in 1803)
That's just the major powers, will add more.
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Post by Mountbatten on Aug 28, 2016 13:01:03 GMT
Nelson because his unorthodox tactics led to Britain's victory in one of the most decisive naval battles ever: the Battle of Trafalgar. Nelson's victory saved Britain from invasion by crushing the Franco-Spanish fleet. I have been a big fan of Nelson since visiting the HMS Victory. Clearly the best naval commander of that era. He effectivrly thwarted french plans at both the Battle of the Nile and the Battle of Trafalgar. A great naval commander yes, but what's the ratio of importance from navy vs. land battles? Because Suvorov never lost one of the latter. |
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Post by Frederick the Great on Aug 28, 2016 13:01:44 GMT
I have been a big fan of Nelson since visiting the HMS Victory. Clearly the best naval commander of that era. He effectivrly thwarted french plans at both the Battle of the Nile and the Battle of Trafalgar. A great naval commander yes, but what's the ratio of importance from navy vs. land battles? Because Suvorov never lost one of the latter. For Britain naval battles that directly effect its existence are more important. |
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Post by Mountbatten on Aug 28, 2016 13:16:21 GMT
A great naval commander yes, but what's the ratio of importance from navy vs. land battles? Because Suvorov never lost one of the latter. For Britain naval battles that directly effect its existence are more important. Britain is the anomaly because you have to sail to get there. Prussia though, didn't fight naval battles. Neither did Poland, or Austria, or any of the states that seperate from Ottoman. France didn't try to conquer by sea, they went across the land. |
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