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Post by Ivan Kolev on Sept 1, 2016 3:04:35 GMT
NOOOOOOO
I got my personal historical arch nemesis...
George B. McClellan.
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Sept 1, 2016 3:14:41 GMT
I'm not saying Howard is bad, I just wanted to know who he was.
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Post by Franz von Hipper on Sept 1, 2016 3:34:37 GMT
NOOOOOOO I got my personal historical arch nemesis... George B. McClellan. Who is worse, Pickett or McClellan?
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Sept 1, 2016 3:59:33 GMT
NOOOOOOO I got my personal historical arch nemesis... George B. McClellan. Who is worse, Pickett or McClellan? McClellan, he could've heavily crippled the Confederates by pursuing them following Antietam.
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Post by Franz von Hipper on Sept 1, 2016 4:04:04 GMT
Who is worse, Pickett or McClellan? McClellan, he could've heavily crippled the Confederates by pursuing them following Antietam. Is this a fight between too cautious or not cautious?
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Sept 1, 2016 4:08:59 GMT
McClellan, he could've heavily crippled the Confederates by pursuing them following Antietam. Is this a fight between too cautious or not cautious? Exactly, McClellan was very indecisive and very cautious. While Pickett...well, you know about him
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Post by Franz von Hipper on Sept 1, 2016 4:11:23 GMT
Is this a fight between too cautious or not cautious? Exactly, McClellan was very indecisive and very cautious. While Pickett...well, you know about him Actually I dont know much, please enlighten me.
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Post by Washington on Sept 1, 2016 6:10:40 GMT
Exactly, McClellan was very indecisive and very cautious. While Pickett...well, you know about him Actually I dont know much, please enlighten me. He did a huge and costly bayonet charge which was thought 100% suicidal
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Post by Franz von Hipper on Sept 1, 2016 9:59:25 GMT
Actually I dont know much, please enlighten me. He did a huge and costly bayonet charge which was thought 100% suicidal Thats pretty bad
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Post by Conrad von Hotzendorf on Sept 1, 2016 18:53:18 GMT
MacArthur
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Post by Tito on Sept 1, 2016 18:54:08 GMT
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Post by Desophaeus on Sept 1, 2016 22:53:14 GMT
Actually I dont know much, please enlighten me. He did a huge and costly bayonet charge which was thought 100% suicidal He was doing it because he was ordered to, in fact some historians are now calling it the Longstreet's Assault instead of Pickett's Charge. It was Longstreet who determined that it would be done, and Robert Lee then suggested Pickett's division to lead the center because it was the most fresh and most able at Gettysburg that day. I quote also "The supporting attack by Wilcox and Lang on Pickett's right was never a factor; they did not approach the Union line until after Pickett was defeated, and their advance was quickly broken up by McGilvery's guns and by the Vermont Brigade." So the 2 other divisions were also at fault for not being in proper position to advance along with Pickett's division. Also the results of that day gave the Southern army some breathing room from the Union's inability to launch a counter-attack. "The Union counteroffensive never came; the Army of the Potomac was exhausted and nearly as damaged at the end of the three days as the Army of Northern Virginia. Meade was content to hold the field. On July 4, the armies observed an informal truce and collected their dead and wounded. Meanwhile, Maj. Gen. Ulysses S. Grant accepted the surrender of the Vicksburg garrison along the Mississippi River, splitting the Confederacy in two. These two Union victories are generally considered the turning point of the Civil War.[39]"
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Post by Frederick the Great on Sept 2, 2016 0:38:32 GMT
I'm completely lost in this Civil War discussion....
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Sept 2, 2016 6:14:36 GMT
I'm completely lost in this Civil War discussion.... me too m8, after seeing desophaeus's mega quoty thing I'm like; "Dafuq is happening here bro? Why so serious?"
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Post by granny's terror on Sept 4, 2016 6:34:43 GMT
I'm 30% Robert Edward Lee!
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