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Post by Desophaeus on Sept 1, 2016 14:09:10 GMT
For sake of gameplay, Powell had also rescinded the part related to loss of a home center, so in effect it was simplified to having an extra unit. It's in the official rules ever since then. Let's not derail this any further. Anyway, the point is, there's no rule related to the Russian Winter in 1900 Diplomacy. For TW14, maybe this winter applies only to the area inside Russia for both offense and defense, and only for the 2nd phase of a year. Now this, I agree. Will UK get a naval buff, and France or Prussia land unit buff? Prussia was weaker (or less strong anyway) than HRE in 1803 actually... Austerliz hasn't happened yet. If António Salazar listed HRE as a major power and Prussia as a secondary power, I understood that this is why.
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Sept 1, 2016 14:18:12 GMT
Now this, I agree. Will UK get a naval buff, and France or Prussia land unit buff? Prussia was weaker (or less strong anyway) than HRE in 1803 actually... Austerliz hasn't happened yet. If António Salazar listed HRE as a major power and Prussia as a secondary power, I understood that this is why. but we're still developing our army you know? I understand why am I a moderate power.
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Post by Laurent de Gouvion on Sept 1, 2016 14:38:06 GMT
Now this, I agree. Will UK get a naval buff, and France or Prussia land unit buff? Prussia was weaker (or less strong anyway) than HRE in 1803 actually... Austerliz hasn't happened yet. If António Salazar listed HRE as a major power and Prussia as a secondary power, I understood that this is why. I would agree. Understand however that Marengo and Hohenlinden had happened, and the HRE are showing signs of collapse. Anyway, a Prussian land buff is logical. Seeing they will have a hostile, moderatly powerful/powerful neighbor (either Russia or Sweden), they need to be able to fight them without getting rekt. France should historically get an arty buff, but land buffs could fit.
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Sept 1, 2016 15:09:59 GMT
Got this from Wikipedia (Royal Prussian Army of the Napoleonic wars).
Prussia withdrew from the First Coalition in the Peace of Basel (1795), ceding the Rhenish territories to France. Upon Frederick William II's death in 1797, the state was bankrupt and the army outdated.
Looks like instead of a buff to Prussian Army we now need a boost to it?
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Post by António Salazar on Sept 1, 2016 15:14:24 GMT
António Salazar before we start our own assumptions on what you said please elaborate what have you written regarding two phases = 1 year. Also highly appreciated if you could get the time for a map. I know school is on again BTW. Ok. I will diplomify (from now on this is the verb of the game diplomacy) the TW a bit. I am a but tired of the current system where everything depends on dices, I do not say dices will b removed but just nerfed. I chose for this because I do want to keep realism in the game (not like Uruguay taking over the world). As for the years: Summer 1803 Winter 1803 Summer 1804 Winter 1804 I am still thinking of defence bonuses in winter but I am not sure about it. I could say that I am now busy at schol but actually I am not at the moment. I will get the map done soon.
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Post by António Salazar on Sept 1, 2016 15:19:09 GMT
Also be mind of a 'great power' in this TW. Like France was a 'great power' in 1939, you can be seriously beaten. Prussia has less provinces and armies than HRE, but HRE sees itself fighting on more fronts. Russia has a lot of provinces and armies but will have Swedes and Turks as constant annoyance. GB is a major power on less fronts, which makes it also hard to expand. so he conclusion is that being a secondary power does not mean you have a less chance to win. I will make sure everything will be balanced.
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Post by Von Bismarck jr on Sept 1, 2016 15:19:11 GMT
Swede buff??? Heeeeeeh?
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Sept 1, 2016 15:23:22 GMT
there is no Swede buff? Unless he edited a post.
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Post by António Salazar on Sept 1, 2016 19:00:23 GMT
there is no Swede buff? Unless he edited a post. I did not say anything a about a Sweden buff, it is just that Von Bismarck jr appears to sincerely wish for a Sweden buff.
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Post by Frederick the Great on Sept 1, 2016 22:46:26 GMT
No Swede buff! Russia buff!
Also this Napolionic War scenario isn't going to work so well without, you know Napoleon.
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Post by Laurent de Gouvion on Sept 1, 2016 22:55:45 GMT
No Swede buff! Russia buff! Also this Napolionic War scenario isn't going to work so well without, you know Napoleon. France should get a Napoleon buff then. However, the buff slightly lowers in 1807 (Eylau). It then lowers far more in 1809 (the first time Napoleon got beaten in battle: Aspern-Essling). Plummets lowest in 1812 (too obvious). Jumps back a bit in 1813 and 1814.
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Sept 1, 2016 23:14:11 GMT
Warning, this will be a very very very different TW. With its own rules and Shoot. I am still working out the details but country selection is now up and running! You might see a bit of a change of the location and size of your country (I am not easytech, so no huge changes). We start in 1803, I think I will have two phases a year. Major players: [ Desophaeus ] Holy Roman Empire + Hungary & Galicia AKA -> Easytech HRE (Coalition side) [Available] French Republic (French Side) [ Quintus Fabius ] UK (Coalition side) [ Frederick the Great ] Russia (can choose at anytime) Secondary: [ Von Bismarck jr ] Sweden (can choose at anytime, if Russia sides with one side Sweden must side with the other due to the bad Russo-Swedish relations) [Available] Ottoman Empire (can choose at anytime, if Russia sides with one side the Turks must side with the other due to the bad Russo-Turkish relations) [Available] Spain (French side) [ Laurent de Gouvion ] Denmark (+ Norway) (French side) [ Napoleon Bonaparte ] Prussia (Coalition side) Other countries (can not be chosen unless there are more than 9 players) Italian states (I will unify them into a weak state) (French vassal) Netherlands (French vassal) Portugal (Neutral) I AM GOING TO CHANGE TEAM THINGS TOMORROW A BIT> Welp, this is ironic: the Prussian is in St. Petersburg and the Soviet is in Berlin.
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Post by best75 on Sept 2, 2016 1:04:15 GMT
I want to chose my country already. Leaving it up to the dice 1-2 france 3-4 ottoman empire 5-6 spain
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Post by best75 on Sept 2, 2016 1:04:47 GMT
Put me down for Spain
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Post by Von Bismarck jr on Sept 2, 2016 1:59:52 GMT
No Swede buff! Russia buff! Also this Napolionic War scenario isn't going to work so well without, you know Napoleon. Roosia has winter! Swede is of wanting boof!
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