Post by NetherFreek on Sept 5, 2016 15:04:00 GMT
Medals
Bai (China) = 1860 medals
Valivesky (SU) = 2080 medals
Both = 3940 medals
Konev (SU) = 3110 medals.
Konev is 830 medals cheaper.
Note that when promoting, for Bai and Vali, you need to promote both, for konev you need to promote 1 (konev)
Artillery (Bai vs Konev)
Damage/output:
star = 28 vs 16
plain lvl 2 by bai making it 28 vs 26
leader konev added damage on
Ra 1,6
Fa 2,56
Ba 2,24
avarage damage konev=30
avarage damage bay=26
Konev wins.
Endgame Damage:
Konev lvl3 barrage vs bay lvl2 barage.
Endgame damage Konev.
21+18+~2=41
Endgame Damage Bay
12+10+12=34
Konev wins.
Movement:
4 stars Bay, 3 stars Konev.
meaning:
Batallion army: 3 hexes and 3 hexes
Field artillery: 3 hexes and 2 hexes
Rocket Artillery: 3 hexes and 3 hexes
Bay is faster on Field Artillery.
Survivability
170 lives Bay vs 170 lives Konev.
Bay has ace lvl2 and anti-nuke aka shelter lvl2. Konev got no survivability skills.
Bay wins.
Read more: european-war-4.boards.net/thread/3693/konev-bai#ixzz4JNu9lQcJ
Infantry (Konev vs Valivesky)
Damage/output
5 stars vs 4 stars = 28 vs 20
Guerrilla Valivesky = 34 vs 20
Plain Fighting Valivesky = 44 vs 20
inf leader Valivesky (MI chosen) = 44,64 vs 20
They both share anti-armor lvl2, making them slightly better against tanks.
Huge victory for Valivesky
Endgame Damage
Konev has lvl 2 Bayonet Charge. Valivesky doesn't have Bayonet Charge.
Valivesky: 21+6+10+0,64=37,64
Konev: 15+12=27
Another Victory for Valivesky
Movement
1 star Valivesky, 3 star Konev. Meaning:
Light infantry: 2 hexes & 3 hexes
Assault infantry: 2 hexes & 3 hexes
Motorized infantry: 4 hexes & 5 hexes
Commando: 3 hexes & 3 hexes.
Konev is faster on motorized infantry. You probably won't use him for light and assault anyway.
Victory for Konev.
Survivability
Konev 170 lives vs Valivesky 200 lives
Konev has raider. meaning 18% of his offensive damage is reduced. adds roughly 9% of his total health.
Konev 185,3 vs Valivesky 200 lives.
Valivesky's initial survivability is better. but when you spend 400 medals on promoting konev, konev has more survivability.
Other
Konev is 1 general, Valivesky+Bay are 2 generals. meaning you can use them simultaneously.
Conclusion
Medals --> Konev
Damage arty --> Konev
Movement arty --> Bai (+valivesky)
Survivability arty --> Bai (+valivesky)
Damage infantry --> Valivesky (+bai)
Movement infantry --> Konev
Survivability infantry --> Valivesky (+bai) after upping to marshal, konev
My Pick
I would choose Bai + Valivesky. since you can use them both at the same time which can come handy for aliens. Valivesky is without doubt way better than konev on infantry, which greatly contribute to my choise.
Bai (China) = 1860 medals
Valivesky (SU) = 2080 medals
Both = 3940 medals
Konev (SU) = 3110 medals.
Konev is 830 medals cheaper.
Note that when promoting, for Bai and Vali, you need to promote both, for konev you need to promote 1 (konev)
Artillery (Bai vs Konev)
Damage/output:
star = 28 vs 16
plain lvl 2 by bai making it 28 vs 26
leader konev added damage on
Ra 1,6
Fa 2,56
Ba 2,24
avarage damage konev=30
avarage damage bay=26
Konev wins.
Endgame Damage:
Konev lvl3 barrage vs bay lvl2 barage.
Endgame damage Konev.
21+18+~2=41
Endgame Damage Bay
12+10+12=34
Konev wins.
Movement:
4 stars Bay, 3 stars Konev.
meaning:
Batallion army: 3 hexes and 3 hexes
Field artillery: 3 hexes and 2 hexes
Rocket Artillery: 3 hexes and 3 hexes
Bay is faster on Field Artillery.
Survivability
170 lives Bay vs 170 lives Konev.
Bay has ace lvl2 and anti-nuke aka shelter lvl2. Konev got no survivability skills.
Bay wins.
Read more: european-war-4.boards.net/thread/3693/konev-bai#ixzz4JNu9lQcJ
Infantry (Konev vs Valivesky)
Damage/output
5 stars vs 4 stars = 28 vs 20
Guerrilla Valivesky = 34 vs 20
Plain Fighting Valivesky = 44 vs 20
inf leader Valivesky (MI chosen) = 44,64 vs 20
They both share anti-armor lvl2, making them slightly better against tanks.
Huge victory for Valivesky
Endgame Damage
Konev has lvl 2 Bayonet Charge. Valivesky doesn't have Bayonet Charge.
Valivesky: 21+6+10+0,64=37,64
Konev: 15+12=27
Another Victory for Valivesky
Movement
1 star Valivesky, 3 star Konev. Meaning:
Light infantry: 2 hexes & 3 hexes
Assault infantry: 2 hexes & 3 hexes
Motorized infantry: 4 hexes & 5 hexes
Commando: 3 hexes & 3 hexes.
Konev is faster on motorized infantry. You probably won't use him for light and assault anyway.
Victory for Konev.
Survivability
Konev 170 lives vs Valivesky 200 lives
Konev has raider. meaning 18% of his offensive damage is reduced. adds roughly 9% of his total health.
Konev 185,3 vs Valivesky 200 lives.
Valivesky's initial survivability is better. but when you spend 400 medals on promoting konev, konev has more survivability.
Other
Konev is 1 general, Valivesky+Bay are 2 generals. meaning you can use them simultaneously.
Conclusion
Medals --> Konev
Damage arty --> Konev
Movement arty --> Bai (+valivesky)
Survivability arty --> Bai (+valivesky)
Damage infantry --> Valivesky (+bai)
Movement infantry --> Konev
Survivability infantry --> Valivesky (+bai) after upping to marshal, konev
My Pick
I would choose Bai + Valivesky. since you can use them both at the same time which can come handy for aliens. Valivesky is without doubt way better than konev on infantry, which greatly contribute to my choise.
, can you give me an advice?
