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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 20:18:15 GMT
I'm anti-Göring just because of who he was. I made my own general instead. I prefer to pretend it's an alternate universe where Goering was in Rehab and Govorov and Eisenhower can work together in Finland 1939. All of my generals are time-travelers that change the outcomes of history.
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Sept 14, 2016 21:12:19 GMT
So....after taking a long break from wc3, I got bado, so now, I was wondering who should I get next, where is he located, and how much does he cost? I have bought Govorov after Badoglio. Tech infantry lvl 7, aircraft 5, artillery 4 and tanks 1. This let me get everything from 1939 (City of Cuzco got playing for 1 star country), 1843 haven't tried yet, and in campaigns got till WTO3 / Nato 4 and looks like I can proceed without any problems, as 3 stars in last levels were quite easy to get. Instead of these two I have 1 eye covered with 3 air stars. The only problem, I can't clear missions to get Terracota Army, so now I'm saving for Vasilevsky or may be Konev to proceed with missions.
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Post by Singlemalt on Sept 14, 2016 21:17:01 GMT
Get guderian instead
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Sept 15, 2016 8:02:23 GMT
I really don't understand why everyone wants to get Guderian at the start of the game. IMHO tank generals are good when you have super tanks, but that's not start of the game. Guderian's price is the same as Badoglio+Govorov, and together they can act much better, in case goal is to win as fast as you can. Artillery is much easier to get (2nd level factory is ok) and it is cheaper.
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Post by Singlemalt on Sept 15, 2016 8:19:46 GMT
Wait.. You said you have bad, gov.. What next? I said guderian... Isnt?
If you ask me I say get gov 1st and leave badgio completly out..but there are more ways to rome.. Badgi is a good cheap starter gen. Gov and guder both necassary end game generals..
Sincerely
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Sept 15, 2016 9:59:16 GMT
Wait.. You said you have bad, gov.. What next? I said guderian... Isnt? If you ask me I say get gov 1st and leave badgio completly out..but there are more ways to rome.. Badgi is a good cheap starter gen. Gov and guder both necassary end game generals.. Sincerely Sorry, you haven't quoted me, so I thought it is reply to general topic and you offer to buy Guderian after Badoglio. And in fact as number 3 I am going to buy now Vasilevsky. Sure, in Nato/WTO (where I am playing now) Guderian can be very useful, but I want to buy Vasilevsky to get Terracota Army. Now I am stuck in missions, anb as I remember when I played first time, buying infantry general let me proceed to Terracota Army in missions. Sure, this is very odd strategy, but for now I don't have problems with current generals, so I will be able to buy Gunderian before I will have problems with current+Vasilevsky.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 13:27:20 GMT
Wait.. You said you have bad, gov.. What next? I said guderian... Isnt? If you ask me I say get gov 1st and leave badgio completly out..but there are more ways to rome.. Badgi is a good cheap starter gen. Gov and guder both necassary end game generals.. Sincerely Sorry, you haven't quoted me, so I thought it is reply to general topic and you offer to buy Guderian after Badoglio. And in fact as number 3 I am going to buy now Vasilevsky. Sure, in Nato/WTO (where I am playing now) Guderian can be very useful, but I want to buy Vasilevsky to get Terracota Army. Now I am stuck in missions, anb as I remember when I played first time, buying infantry general let me proceed to Terracota Army in missions. Sure, this is very odd strategy, but for now I don't have problems with current generals, so I will be able to buy Gunderian before I will have problems with current+Vasilevsky. Infantry generals are useless for conquests and Cold War. Guderian is useful everywhere except aliens.
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Post by Tito on Sept 15, 2016 13:34:04 GMT
Arnold would be better cause movement hey wont fight that much so you dont need stars in Artillery or Inf you get me you dont want to risk their life, So a perfect general would be 5 Air 5 Movement 5 Armored, Shelter or the anti air skill , Money master and I guess Steel master could be useful,Blitzkrieg and you can use both of the skills air and nukes or get an another skill. But all of this sounds really nice and all but this is endgame stuff
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Post by Tito on Sept 15, 2016 13:36:57 GMT
Also wilbur if you ever go for an in app purchase go for manstein dont go for medals or the other two guys , you can get medals by FWYS with wonders, Manstei is useful in 1939 and 1943 , because he is AN AMAZING tank gen and you can use him on artillery in 1975
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Sept 15, 2016 17:34:36 GMT
Infantry generals are useless for conquests and Cold War. Guderian is useful everywhere except aliens. Not really, they can give good headstart. For example, when I have played 1939 for Egypt even starting Egyptian infantry general (170 hp, 3 infantry stars, lv2 explosives, lv1 raider and 1 movement star) helped significantly, and I could afford second artillery only on second turn for Badoglio and Govorov, and one more infantry I could afford on second turn too, but buying a tank could take quite a long time, and motorized infantry I can drop 2 turns away from the city, this way speeding up even more. Sure, infantry general will die quite quickly, but later it is not important, but in the beginning it can save some 4-5 turns. In CW too, for example, I just played Sea Road - you start with one rocket artillery, one super tank, one commando and some other units (not of this kind). And you need quite many money to buy nukes. But if you buy one more artillery and use 2 artillery, one tank and one infantry general - that would be enough to get 3 stars quite easy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 17:44:35 GMT
Infantry generals are useless for conquests and Cold War. Guderian is useful everywhere except aliens. Not really, they can give good headstart. For example, when I have played 1939 for Egypt even starting Egyptian infantry general (170 hp, 3 infantry stars, lv2 explosives, lv1 raider and 1 movement star) helped significantly, and I could afford second artillery only on second turn for Badoglio and Govorov, and one more infantry I could afford on second turn too, but buying a tank could take quite a long time, and motorized infantry I can drop 2 turns away from the city, this way speeding up even more. Sure, infantry general will die quite quickly, but later it is not important, but in the beginning it can save some 4-5 turns. In CW too, for example, I just played Sea Road - you start with one rocket artillery, one super tank, one commando and some other units (not of this kind). And you need quite many money to buy nukes. But if you buy one more artillery and use 2 artillery, one tank and one infantry general - that would be enough to get 3 stars quite easy. Infantry's are completely end game. Tank generals can survive a lot more and have a stronger output. Infantry are for missions only.
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Post by best75 on Sept 16, 2016 0:08:58 GMT
Infantry generals just die too easily. Armoured cars, heavy tanks, super heavy tanks all deal 50% more damage to infantry. As soon as you meet a general on one of those your infantry general is toast.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 0:33:39 GMT
Infantry generals just die too easily. Armoured cars, heavy tanks, super heavy tanks all deal 50% more damage to infantry. As soon as you meet a general on one of those your infantry general is toast. Imagine fighting Guderian on Super Tank with Vasilevsky. Vasilevsky could put a dent in Guderian, but overall Guderian will annihilate him in 3 turns...
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Post by best75 on Sept 16, 2016 0:35:03 GMT
Max Otto von Stierlitz, I find you should get a navy general instead if you are aiming for Terracota Army since its on the navy path.
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Post by Singlemalt on Sept 16, 2016 6:11:14 GMT
Max Otto von Stierlitz, I find you should get a navy general instead if you are aiming for Terracota Army since its on the navy path. I agree.. I got ozawa for a short period just to get it! eisenhower, guderian is still a must in allien campaigns and can be very handy in conquest.. Why did you state he isnt?
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