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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 6:19:24 GMT
Max Otto von Stierlitz, I find you should get a navy general instead if you are aiming for Terracota Army since its on the navy path. I agree.. I got ozawa for a short period just to get it! eisenhower, guderian is still a must in allien campaigns and can be very handy in conquest.. Why did you state he isnt? Guderian isn't as much useful in aliens and I never said he isn't useful in conquest. Besides Erich von Manstein, Guderian is the king of conquests! |
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Sept 16, 2016 6:41:16 GMT
Infantry's are completely end game. Tank generals can survive a lot more and have a stronger output. Infantry are for missions only. Overall you are right. But not in every situation. Just wait a bit, most likely this evening I will buy Vasilevsky and than I will be able to investigate specific situations. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 6:44:04 GMT
Infantry's are completely end game. Tank generals can survive a lot more and have a stronger output. Infantry are for missions only. Overall you are right. But not in every situation. Just wait a bit, most likely this evening I will buy Vasilevsky and than I will be able to investigate specific situations. Trust me when I say, you will regret it. |
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Sept 16, 2016 6:49:42 GMT
Max Otto von Stierlitz , I find you should get a navy general instead if you are aiming for Terracota Army since its on the navy path. Thx. Didn't know that. I just remember, that when I bought Mannerheim, I got to Terracota Army. Right now to proceed with missions I need 2 Navy/Air/Tank (this I will get from Vasilevsky) or in other mission I need 5 Infantry/raider which again Vasilevsky will give me. Later on I will wait and see. I have already upgraded one eye covered for 3 air stars. |
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Sept 16, 2016 6:50:49 GMT
Trust me when I say, you will regret it. Let's wait and see. |
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Post by yuanzhong on Sept 16, 2016 7:09:50 GMT
Trust me when I say, you will regret it. Let's wait and see. All others' opinions are only for reference, you are the guy who have decision and take responsibility for it. Eisenhower just don't want you waste your medals on NOT IMPORTANT GENERALS.(which very hard to find during game if you are free player because grinding medals in this game is nearly impossible. At beginning you may feel it's easy to get medals through mission and campaign, but when you finish all easy mission and campaign and don't have enough strong generals for challanging mission or campaign, that's your hard time). It isn't nonsense when almost people in this forum think that Guderian is one of must have among 3 of your early generals, it comes from effectiveness in playing process and cost also, prevent you wasting medals in buying not good general and selling him later (you lose 20% of his price - big amount). But at last, it's only a game, just play by the way you like ^^! |
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Post by best75 on Sept 16, 2016 7:16:33 GMT
Max Otto von Stierlitz , I find you should get a navy general instead if you are aiming for Terracota Army since its on the navy path. Thx. Didn't know that. I just remember, that when I bought Mannerheim, I got to Terracota Army. Right now to proceed with missions I need 2 Navy/Air/Tank (this I will get from Vasilevsky) or in other mission I need 5 Infantry/raider which again Vasilevsky will give me. Later on I will wait and see. I have already upgraded one eye covered for 3 air stars. Just keeping doing the ones with the navy icon. I still recommend a navy general first since its better long term in getting terracota army. There will always be navy needed in the navy series. Vasilevsky might be useful in missions now but he won't be useful in later navy missions. |
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Sept 16, 2016 7:21:55 GMT
All others' opinions are only for reference, you are the guy who have decision and take responsibility for it. Eisenhower just don't want you waste your medals on NOT IMPORTANT GENERALS.(which very hard to find during game if you are free player because grinding medals in this game is nearly impossible. At beginning you may feel it's easy to get medals through mission and campaign, but when you finish all easy mission and campaign and don't have enough strong generals for challanging mission or campaign, that's your hard time). It isn't nonsense when almost people in this forum think that Guderian is one of must have among 3 of your early generals, it comes from effectiveness in playing process and cost also, prevent you wasting medals in buying not good general and selling him later (you lose 20% of his price - big amount). But at last, it's only a game, just play by the way you like ^^! For me medals are not a big problem, because I'm autofarming for Spain 1939 most time of the day (which includes collecting medals from pyramids and Cuzco too), and that gives me more than 100 medals each day, besides that I play some 1-2 campaigns, so I proceed quite slowly. But that doesn't make Vasilevsky worse. He's just specific. |
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Sept 16, 2016 11:49:16 GMT
Just keeping doing the ones with the navy icon. I still recommend a navy general first since its better long term in getting terracota army. There will always be navy needed in the navy series. Vasilevsky might be useful in missions now but he won't be useful in later navy missions. I see. For navy stars I want to upgrade my eye covered. I know that's expensive and so on, but just for fun. |
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Post by Tito on Sept 16, 2016 12:55:16 GMT
Max Otto von Stierlitz , I find you should get a navy general instead if you are aiming for Terracota Army since its on the navy path. I agree.. I got ozawa for a short period just to get it! eisenhower, guderian is still a must in allien campaigns and can be very handy in conquest.. Why did you state he isnt? Artillery is more useful against aliens tanks are weaker |
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Post by Singlemalt on Sept 16, 2016 13:12:14 GMT
I agree.. I got ozawa for a short period just to get it! eisenhower, guderian is still a must in allien campaigns and can be very handy in conquest.. Why did you state he isnt? Artillery is more useful against aliens tanks are weaker If you do campaign and want to get 3 stars.. You have to deal with what you got since waiting before you can build all artilleries.. Did you guys who all the time discuss this stuff really played that far? The advices you tend to give makes me doubt this tbh |
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Post by yuanzhong on Sept 16, 2016 13:15:26 GMT
All others' opinions are only for reference, you are the guy who have decision and take responsibility for it. Eisenhower just don't want you waste your medals on NOT IMPORTANT GENERALS.(which very hard to find during game if you are free player because grinding medals in this game is nearly impossible. At beginning you may feel it's easy to get medals through mission and campaign, but when you finish all easy mission and campaign and don't have enough strong generals for challanging mission or campaign, that's your hard time). It isn't nonsense when almost people in this forum think that Guderian is one of must have among 3 of your early generals, it comes from effectiveness in playing process and cost also, prevent you wasting medals in buying not good general and selling him later (you lose 20% of his price - big amount). But at last, it's only a game, just play by the way you like ^^! For me medals are not a big problem, because I'm autofarming for Spain 1939 most time of the day (which includes collecting medals from pyramids and Cuzco too), and that gives me more than 100 medals each day, besides that I play some 1-2 campaigns, so I proceed quite slowly. But that doesn't make Vasilevsky worse. He's just specific. I don't think Vasilevski is not good general (I bough him as my 5th and the last Academy Gen after make some thread of choosing him or Konev), i just notice the order of generals need to buy. Have good Tank gen make you process becomes easier and quicker so more medals collected and shorten your time to build your team. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 13:27:06 GMT
Artillery is more useful against aliens tanks are weaker If you do campaign and want to get 3 stars.. You have to deal with what you got since waiting before you can build all artilleries.. Did you guys who all the time discuss this stuff really played that far? The advices you tend to give makes me doubt this tbh I never mentioned Guderian being bad in alien campaign. He is the only thing that's helped me get as far as I have in aliens campaign. Conquest just isn't the biggest fit for him. You can pull it off, but still.... |
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Sept 16, 2016 17:26:47 GMT
I don't think Vasilevski is not good general (I bough him as my 5th and the last Academy Gen after make some thread of choosing him or Konev), i just notice the order of generals need to buy. Have good Tank gen make you process becomes easier and quicker so more medals collected and shorten your time to build your team. Regarding a question, what will be better in general, you're right. Guderian will be better. But for now I have no problems getting 3 stars almost in every campaign even with Badoglio and Govorov. Nato 4 is quire difficult, but seems like if I had Vasilevsky, it would be enough. WOT 1 and 2 were quite easy, 3 I haven't played yet, but even if I get stuck somewhere there, I don't have 3 golden stars for every Axis/Allies campaign, and even haven't played Axis 10 yet. So if I get stuck somewhere, I have enough work to do while I'll be farming medals for Guderian. Also I haven't played 1943 conquest, so situation that I will get totally stuck will no happen, but Vasilevsky (possibly with the help of upgradin eye covered) will help me proceed to Terracota army. And for now this is my main goal. But in fact this discussion started from the point of view, that infantry generals are useless in conquests. I don't think so and when I will buy Vasilevsky, I will check and I think that in some situations infantry general can give better results than tank. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 21:23:46 GMT
I don't think Vasilevski is not good general (I bough him as my 5th and the last Academy Gen after make some thread of choosing him or Konev), i just notice the order of generals need to buy. Have good Tank gen make you process becomes easier and quicker so more medals collected and shorten your time to build your team. Regarding a question, what will be better in general, you're right. Guderian will be better. But for now I have no problems getting 3 stars almost in every campaign even with Badoglio and Govorov. Nato 4 is quire difficult, but seems like if I had Vasilevsky, it would be enough. WOT 1 and 2 were quite easy, 3 I haven't played yet, but even if I get stuck somewhere there, I don't have 3 golden stars for every Axis/Allies campaign, and even haven't played Axis 10 yet. So if I get stuck somewhere, I have enough work to do while I'll be farming medals for Guderian. Also I haven't played 1943 conquest, so situation that I will get totally stuck will no happen, but Vasilevsky (possibly with the help of upgradin eye covered) will help me proceed to Terracota army. And for now this is my main goal. But in fact this discussion started from the point of view, that infantry generals are useless in conquests. I don't think so and when I will buy Vasilevsky, I will check and I think that in some situations infantry general can give better results than tank. The only thing infantry do better on is fellow infantry, and tanks top them there too. If you're looking for a quick general because you don't want to save for Guderian, then get Vatutin. But infantry, are completely end game. |
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