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Post by wilbur2016 on Sept 16, 2016 3:46:25 GMT
So I need help... I'm trying to beat 1939 in under 65 turns, my strategy is to focus resources and troops on taking over ROC, Mongolia, and Russia, which I'm able to do that in about 30 turns (i use 3 eye covered, and bado btw), then I take over Africa, which is hard because Germany, Romania, and Italy are right in the way of my troops, then around turn 50, I have Australia, SF (which at that point I just bomb the coast and take every city I can, and kill every soldier I can), and UK is gone. Now I have issues... I approach Washington and New York at turn 55, mostly using paratroopers I spawned in from SF, Canada a pretty much hanged (1 city left, taken after a while), but I struggle to take over the last 2 cities in US, it takes about 10 turns because I can't really bomb them (my personal favorite method, because it can be so effective if you're rich, which you should be at this point), then when I finally take over the last cities, it's over the deadline, so I win, get medals and stuff (which is nice), but I don't get the pyramids, which was the whole reason I was doing this, so i basically just need help with taking over the US, I would try going through Dublin, which I found a guide for, but, Germany gets in the way of my troops, so I can't take Dublin, because they beat me to it.
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Post by wilbur2016 on Sept 16, 2016 3:58:30 GMT
If I controlled all the land that my allies have, this would be SO easy, but then the game wouldn't be as fun  |
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Post by yuanzhong on Sept 16, 2016 5:55:05 GMT
So I need help... I'm trying to beat 1939 in under 65 turns, my strategy is to focus resources and troops on taking over ROC, Mongolia, and Russia, which I'm able to do that in about 30 turns (i use 3 eye covered, and bado btw), then I take over Africa, which is hard because Germany, Romania, and Italy are right in the way of my troops, then around turn 50, I have Australia, SF (which at that point I just bomb the coast and take every city I can, and kill every soldier I can), and UK is gone. Now I have issues... I approach Washington and New York at turn 55, mostly using paratroopers I spawned in from SF, Canada a pretty much hanged (1 city left, taken after a while), but I struggle to take over the last 2 cities in US, it takes about 10 turns because I can't really bomb them (my personal favorite method, because it can be so effective if you're rich, which you should be at this point), then when I finally take over the last cities, it's over the deadline, so I win, get medals and stuff (which is nice), but I don't get the pyramids, which was the whole reason I was doing this, so i basically just need help with taking over the US, I would try going through Dublin, which I found a guide for, but, Germany gets in the way of my troops, so I can't take Dublin, because they beat me to it. I think you better try German 1939 if you don't mind my advice is out of this thread. Because following reason: Europe has more city to take => more resource and you can start your Bombing and Paratrooping Strategy sooner. (Be carefull when attacking any city, don't let your Allies steal it from you) You face USSR, conquer it and you get easy way to take asia. Don't affraid your Allies lay on your way. (Japan works well in Asia, not like AI German- almost be defeated by USSR). If you do it right, you reach Asia before Japan conquers all Asia and you get Suitable Air line for Air Strategy. After conquer Europe, take England (this time Spain nearly kick France out of game, help Spain) and Rush your Generals to invade USA. For Asia battle field, just Air Strategy is enough, don't need Generals. In USA take the city have factory III and IV, spam Super tank (and Heavy Tank) to support your generals (this time, almost land General of USA is low health) Only disavantage is Brisbane in Australia, so when you conquer Asia, take some port and spam Air Carrier and rush to that city to finish the conquer. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 6:00:09 GMT
wilbur2016, what generals do you have? This could help me know what the perfect conquest is for you.
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Post by Desophaeus on Sept 16, 2016 14:55:25 GMT
wilbur2016, what generals do you have? This could help me know what the perfect conquest is for you. Doesn't matter... Japan 1939 is the easiest conquest you could ask for. It gives you all the generals and admirals you would ever need in that conquest.
The advice about Germany doesn't really matter either. If Japan is difficult, Germany is harder to achieve under 65. It's all about effective use of troops and where you would go in a path. Going directly from China to Russia while you need to also conquer India is the wrong strategy. Brisbane... My guide to Japan 1939 is pretty easy to achieve and it gives a win button for Brisbane right there in the guide. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 15:16:21 GMT
wilbur2016, what generals do you have? This could help me know what the perfect conquest is for you. Doesn't matter... Japan 1939 is the easiest conquest you could ask for. It gives you all the generals and admirals you would ever need in that conquest.
The advice about Germany doesn't really matter either. If Japan is difficult, Germany is harder to achieve under 65. It's all about effective use of troops and where you would go in a path. Going directly from China to Russia while you need to also conquer India is the wrong strategy. Brisbane... My guide to Japan 1939 is pretty easy to achieve and it gives a win button for Brisbane right there in the guide. It could matter, a fair tank general will definitely make Japan a lot quicker. Tank generals are the best for taking the USA. Also to further your strategic advice, if I knew which generals he had, then I could show where to use them. In my opinion: No Tank Generals: Focus on shipping hoards of heavy tanks to the USA to make up for the lack of them. Tank Generals Included: Focus on making paratroopers in order to take China. |
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Post by wilbur2016 on Sept 16, 2016 15:50:05 GMT
Doesn't matter... Japan 1939 is the easiest conquest you could ask for. It gives you all the generals and admirals you would ever need in that conquest.
The advice about Germany doesn't really matter either. If Japan is difficult, Germany is harder to achieve under 65. It's all about effective use of troops and where you would go in a path. Going directly from China to Russia while you need to also conquer India is the wrong strategy. Brisbane... My guide to Japan 1939 is pretty easy to achieve and it gives a win button for Brisbane right there in the guide. It could matter, a fair tank general will definitely make Japan a lot quicker. Tank generals are the best for taking the USA. Also to further your strategic advice, if I knew which generals he had, then I could show where to use them. In my opinion: No Tank Generals: Focus on shipping hoards of heavy tanks to the USA to make up for the lack of them. Tank Generals Included: Focus on making paratroopers in order to take China. I have no generals specified as tank gens, but I have 3 eye covered, and bado, reading this though I have an idea, originally I didn't use aircraft carriers to attack Brisbane, I used them to take out America's navy, then to harass their cities, until me troops got there, but by reading this, I figure that the best way to go it to hold a general or 2 back, send them to America, with a battleship for back up, then after I've taken SF and the other city next to it, I spam heavy tanks, and charge instead of just using paratroopers, which are just assault infantry. Idk if it'll work but it seems better than my previous strategy, which I think relied on hordes of weaker troops (that pretty much got in the way) too much. |
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Post by Desophaeus on Sept 16, 2016 15:57:51 GMT
You do have kinda a point there @coolguy14.
I was thinking generally it's actually easier to focus on conquering China -> India -> Europe -> UK/Ireland -> Eastern Canada -> game over in North America (while at the same time doing a bit to kill Australia and Pacific Coast of America).
Usually, generals are dead before you reach New York City in this path if you use them to the fullest capacity and proceed accordingly from there with a crazy amount of cheap Armoured Cars + Motorized Infantries (both are cheaper than heavy tanks, but still get the generally same effect).
I'm still a bit annyoyed by the fact that people didn't look up the guide on Japan 1939 or they would have known that the most effective way to deal with Brisbane is an early capture of Midway then Hawaii to produce one or two aircraft carriers to grind down Blamey's HP safely without over committed so much resources that would be better used in conquest of China and India.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 16:06:35 GMT
It could matter, a fair tank general will definitely make Japan a lot quicker. Tank generals are the best for taking the USA. Also to further your strategic advice, if I knew which generals he had, then I could show where to use them. In my opinion: No Tank Generals: Focus on shipping hoards of heavy tanks to the USA to make up for the lack of them. Tank Generals Included: Focus on making paratroopers in order to take China. I have no generals specified as tank gens, but I have 3 eye covered, and bado, reading this though I have an idea, originally I didn't use aircraft carriers to attack Brisbane, I used them to take out America's navy, then to harass their cities, until me troops got there, but by reading this, I figure that the best way to go it to hold a general or 2 back, send them to America, with a battleship for back up, then after I've taken SF and the other city next to it, I spam heavy tanks, and charge instead of just using paratroopers, which are just assault infantry. Idk if it'll work but it seems better than my previous strategy, which I think relied on hordes of weaker troops (that pretty much got in the way) too much. Eyes? Have you upgraded your eyes? If you have, maybe you should sell them? |
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Post by Desophaeus on Sept 16, 2016 16:12:12 GMT
Eyes? Have you upgraded your eyes? If you have, maybe you should sell them? Depending, either just leave them if it wasn't a lot of medals spent, but if it's a lot, it's just easier to start over because he wouldn't have a lot of progress so far anyway. It would hurt less to start over soon as possible than to wait so long in the future then start over if it was necessary.
wilbur2016 How much did you spend on your 3 generals? |
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Post by wilbur2016 on Sept 16, 2016 17:45:16 GMT
Eyes? Have you upgraded your eyes? If you have, maybe you should sell them? Depending, either just leave them if it wasn't a lot of medals spent, but if it's a lot, it's just easier to start over because he wouldn't have a lot of progress so far anyway. It would hurt less to start over soon as possible than to wait so long in the future then start over if it was necessary.
wilbur2016 How much did you spend on your 3 generals? I just spent the medals on bado, I haven't spent anything for the eye covered because I was told not to. Btw, I'm not restarting yet, bado has served well for the campaigns, tell me if I should upgrade my eye covered though, I was told that's more late game (I'm at 9 axis, and 7 allies, so I would consider that early game, but I could be wrong) |
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Post by Desophaeus on Sept 16, 2016 17:54:52 GMT
Depending, either just leave them if it wasn't a lot of medals spent, but if it's a lot, it's just easier to start over because he wouldn't have a lot of progress so far anyway. It would hurt less to start over soon as possible than to wait so long in the future then start over if it was necessary.
wilbur2016 How much did you spend on your 3 generals? I just spent the medals on bado, I haven't spent anything for the eye covered because I was told not to. Btw, I'm not restarting yet, bado has served well for the campaigns, tell me if I should upgrade my eye covered though, I was told that's more late game (I'm at 9 axis, and 7 allies, so I would consider that early game, but I could be wrong) Okay perfect! Don't spend anything on those three guys until you have 3 strong tank generals and 2 strong artillery generals and one navy/air (usually Onzawa or Yamatoto). It probably could look like this: Gunderian, Patton, Rommel, and Govorov, Bai, and Onzawa. THEN go ahead and getting started on upgrading those 3 no-eyes cmrdrs, otherwise... don't even consider upgrading those guys. By the way, don't put your Badogilo on an arty until you make a Field Arty in Europe. It's a better use of him. China and India will fall to your Japanese starting generals anyway. |
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Post by wilbur2016 on Sept 16, 2016 17:59:50 GMT
I just spent the medals on bado, I haven't spent anything for the eye covered because I was told not to. Btw, I'm not restarting yet, bado has served well for the campaigns, tell me if I should upgrade my eye covered though, I was told that's more late game (I'm at 9 axis, and 7 allies, so I would consider that early game, but I could be wrong) Okay perfect! Don't spend anything on those three guys until you have 3 strong tank generals and 2 strong artillery generals and one navy/air (usually Onzawa or Yamatoto). It probably could look like this: Gunderian, Patton, Rommel, and Govorov, Bai, and Onzawa. THEN go ahead and getting started on upgrading those 3 no-eyes cmrdrs, otherwise... don't even consider upgrading those guys. By the way, don't put your Badogilo on an arty until you make a Field Arty in Europe. It's a better use of him. China and India will fall to your Japanese starting generals anyway. K, thanks for the help, good to know that placing all my generals at the start is a bad idea, travel time probably screwed me there... |
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Post by Desophaeus on Sept 16, 2016 18:15:09 GMT
No, that's not quite it. It's WHERE the general would be most effective.
Badogilo is a bit slow but arty generals tends to be slow and the arty units are slow themselves, so it would be a huge waste trying to drag Bado all the way through Asia or Pacific. In Europe, so many targets are very close to each other, it would mean that your Bado general would be able to fire at something more often than just move, move, move and not being able to fire at something to be useful.
Your starting generals when Japan start in 1939... those generals are highly useful in killing China quickly, but be sure to allow their enemy generals approach your forces in isolated one by one fashion. Again, it's about tactics and taking advantage of intelligent movements for yourself.
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Sept 16, 2016 18:37:07 GMT
So I need help... I'm trying to beat 1939 in under 65 turns, my strategy is to focus resources and troops on taking over ROC, Mongolia, and Russia, which I'm able to do that in about 30 turns (i use 3 eye covered, and bado btw), then I take over Africa, which is hard because Germany, Romania, and Italy are right in the way of my troops, then around turn 50, I have Australia, SF (which at that point I just bomb the coast and take every city I can, and kill every soldier I can), and UK is gone. Now I have issues... I approach Washington and New York at turn 55, mostly using paratroopers I spawned in from SF, Canada a pretty much hanged (1 city left, taken after a while), but I struggle to take over the last 2 cities in US, it takes about 10 turns because I can't really bomb them (my personal favorite method, because it can be so effective if you're rich, which you should be at this point), then when I finally take over the last cities, it's over the deadline, so I win, get medals and stuff (which is nice), but I don't get the pyramids, which was the whole reason I was doing this, so i basically just need help with taking over the US, I would try going through Dublin, which I found a guide for, but, Germany gets in the way of my troops, so I can't take Dublin, because they beat me to it. I did the same. The cities, which you can't bombard (and many cities, which you can bombard too) you can just capture by landing paratroopers somwhere close and than attack nex turn. Have you upgraded aircraft to get motorized infantry paratroopers? If not, than do it and you will have no problems. I have cleared 1939 for Japan with Bado and level 1-2 techs except of aircraft in about 50 turns. If you don't have resources to upgrade aircraft till PMI, than upgrade at least to get assault infantry, it have to be enough to clear in 65 turns. |
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