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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Mar 1, 2017 16:36:04 GMT
we gave you New Mexico back, remember? You're people shouldn't be that furious as you still have something up North. Edit; America welcomes this changed Mexico and offers it if it wants to trade with the USA? Sure, we can trade. But Mexico did still lose everything else but New Mexico in the north, so can you blame them for being mad? no I can't |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 4:44:34 GMT
I'd like to announce that I'm officially resigning my ownership of Honduras. Why you're probably wondering?
1. I've noticed myself getting mad at people in this RP so easily and it only becomes easier for me as things go on. I don't want to be mad at people in real life, so I'll play it safe.
2. I don't know how much longer my relationships with fellow players will continue if I stay in. As I make controversial choices, that I find right, there will be opposition. I have no reason to lose whatever relationship I have with any of you.
3. Life is stressful and I don't have much patience to deal with military invasions and Iron-Fist Diplomacies.
I hope you can all find a new member for Honduras and I'm sorry I chose to leave.
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Mar 2, 2017 4:48:04 GMT
I'm leaving too, reason being that this has now became incredibly unrealistic. Ottomans are invading Mexico, making Zeppelins. Peru has California. CSA still exists.
These are the reasons why I don't want to play anymore
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Mar 2, 2017 4:53:45 GMT
I might consider leaving as well, but that's mainly because two key members of the game are leaving, and a game with 4 nations balkanized is not fun. (Or we could end the game here and play the HRE one, because all the interesting wars have finished, the page count is 117, and the posts are coming very slow) Also, when has the CSA existing being unrealistic, Napoleon Bonaparte? If that's the case, then why is there post upon post in alternatehistory.com about different PODs that can cause it? |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Mar 2, 2017 5:02:04 GMT
I might consider leaving as well, but that's mainly because two key members of the game are leaving, and a game with 4 nations balkanized is not fun. (Or we could end the game here and play the HRE one, because all the interesting wars have finished, the page count is 117, and the posts are coming very slow) Also, when has the CSA existing being unrealistic, Napoleon Bonaparte? If that's the case, then why is there post upon post in alternatehistory.com about different PODs that can cause it? I don't know about alternatehistory.com at all mate  You're right, this thing went 7 more years in bonus that wasn't expected. And now it's time it ends. It had to end some day? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 5:14:39 GMT
I'm leaving too, reason being that this has now became incredibly unrealistic. Ottomans are invading Mexico, making Zeppelins. Peru has California. CSA still exists. These are the reasons why I don't want to play anymore I mean technically the Civil War didn't end til 1865 which we never got to, but oh well. The other problems do seem a little insane. |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Mar 2, 2017 12:14:02 GMT
I might consider leaving as well, but that's mainly because two key members of the game are leaving, and a game with 4 nations balkanized is not fun. (Or we could end the game here and play the HRE one, because all the interesting wars have finished, the page count is 117, and the posts are coming very slow) Also, when has the CSA existing being unrealistic, Napoleon Bonaparte? If that's the case, then why is there post upon post in alternatehistory.com about different PODs that can cause it? I don't know about alternatehistory.com at all mate You're right, this thing went 7 more years in bonus that wasn't expected. And now it's time it ends. It had to end some day? Alternate History Dot Com is a great website, as proven by the fact that I spent most of yesterday reading a fascinating story about HMS Victory being transported back in time from the Battle of Trafalgar, 1806 AD, to Lindisfarne, 793 AD. |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 2, 2017 12:48:09 GMT
I don't know about alternatehistory.com at all mate You're right, this thing went 7 more years in bonus that wasn't expected. And now it's time it ends. It had to end some day? Alternate History Dot Com is a great website, as proven by the fact that I spent most of yesterday reading a fascinating story about HMS Victory being transported back in time from the Battle of Trafalgar, 1805 AD, to Lindisfarne, 793 AD. Hmm. Time travel is NOT realistic, exactly, but that is an impressive story. Naval ships and soldiers being sent back or forwards in time is a common trope, but such a spin on it is interesting. I wonder if Napoleon Bonaparte refers to his consistent complaints. Is he the only one who believes its been 7 years too long? I imagine he refers to his woes as USA, and not general opinion and unstated fact. IMO HRE is not ready, as long as Bismarck Jr is unwilling to continue it. Of course, there are other RPs waiting. IMO there isn't really anything unrealistic about PBC invading Mexican California. In 2017, over 60 million people would live in my territories, compared to 100 million Mexicans. I believe at one time a south American nation (brazil, maybe with its Minas Gereas battleships) obtained a battleship so powerful, an American commander noted that if that Nation attacked, the entire United States Navy would be powerless to stop it. If a South American Nation can scare the US, what is unrealistic about the mighty PBC taking western regions? And of course, CSA's existence is not unrealistic. IRL it was very unlikely CSA would survive....without support, which it actively seeked. It got plenty of that in this RP. |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Mar 2, 2017 13:10:56 GMT
Alternate History Dot Com is a great website, as proven by the fact that I spent most of yesterday reading a fascinating story about HMS Victory being transported back in time from the Battle of Trafalgar, 1805 AD, to Lindisfarne, 793 AD. Hmm. Time travel is NOT realistic, exactly, but that is an impressive story. Naval ships and soldiers being sent back or forwards in time is a common trope, but such a spin on it is interesting. I wonder if Napoleon Bonaparte refers to his consistent complaints. Is he the only one who believes its been 7 years too long? I imagine he refers to his woes as USA, and not general opinion and unstated fact. IMO HRE is not ready, as long as Bismarck Jr is unwilling to continue it. Of course, there are other RPs waiting. IMO there isn't really anything unrealistic about PBC invading Mexican California. In 2017, over 60 million people would live in my territories, compared to 100 million Mexicans. I believe at one time a south American nation (brazil, maybe with its Minas Gereas battleships) obtained a battleship so powerful, an American commander noted that if that Nation attacked, the entire United States Navy would be powerless to stop it. If a South American Nation can scare the US, what is unrealistic about the mighty PBC taking western regions? And of course, CSA's existence is not unrealistic. IRL it was very unlikely CSA would survive....without support, which it actively seeked. It got plenty of that in this RP. Link here. It's for v.1.0 to 3.0, but the v.4.0.1 version is linked at the end of the thread. All versions have different happenings, so you should read all of them. Also, you might need a account, which takes time to approve. www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=95785 |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Mar 2, 2017 13:25:07 GMT
Alternate History Dot Com is a great website, as proven by the fact that I spent most of yesterday reading a fascinating story about HMS Victory being transported back in time from the Battle of Trafalgar, 1805 AD, to Lindisfarne, 793 AD. Hmm. Time travel is NOT realistic, exactly, but that is an impressive story. Naval ships and soldiers being sent back or forwards in time is a common trope, but such a spin on it is interesting. I wonder if Napoleon Bonaparte refers to his consistent complaints. Is he the only one who believes its been 7 years too long? I imagine he refers to his woes as USA, and not general opinion and unstated fact. IMO HRE is not ready, as long as Bismarck Jr is unwilling to continue it. Of course, there are other RPs waiting. IMO there isn't really anything unrealistic about PBC invading Mexican California. In 2017, over 60 million people would live in my territories, compared to 100 million Mexicans. I believe at one time a south American nation (brazil, maybe with its Minas Gereas battleships) obtained a battleship so powerful, an American commander noted that if that Nation attacked, the entire United States Navy would be powerless to stop it. If a South American Nation can scare the US, what is unrealistic about the mighty PBC taking western regions? And of course, CSA's existence is not unrealistic. IRL it was very unlikely CSA would survive....without support, which it actively seeked. It got plenty of that in this RP. I don't care what anyone says to this comment, but this burden has to get off of my chest; This game was supposed to be simple and realistic. When a lot of times was the realism card pulled on me (the USA), a lot of the times no one simply just cared about it. Like when Picard and Sherman agreed that Ottoman and Persia will be more of a "end of the map thing" (paraphrased) but then out of nowhere the Turks came and no one pulled out that card. Realism! I know I went crazy once, but that was when I had had enough! The moment when a few people said that they were going to intervene in the civil war because I wasn't "trading", I was shocked! And when Peru and Mexico invaded with nearly 550000 men, no card was pulled out. I rather just stop it right here. |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 2, 2017 15:45:30 GMT
Hmm. Time travel is NOT realistic, exactly, but that is an impressive story. Naval ships and soldiers being sent back or forwards in time is a common trope, but such a spin on it is interesting. I wonder if Napoleon Bonaparte refers to his consistent complaints. Is he the only one who believes its been 7 years too long? I imagine he refers to his woes as USA, and not general opinion and unstated fact. IMO HRE is not ready, as long as Bismarck Jr is unwilling to continue it. Of course, there are other RPs waiting. IMO there isn't really anything unrealistic about PBC invading Mexican California. In 2017, over 60 million people would live in my territories, compared to 100 million Mexicans. I believe at one time a south American nation (brazil, maybe with its Minas Gereas battleships) obtained a battleship so powerful, an American commander noted that if that Nation attacked, the entire United States Navy would be powerless to stop it. If a South American Nation can scare the US, what is unrealistic about the mighty PBC taking western regions? And of course, CSA's existence is not unrealistic. IRL it was very unlikely CSA would survive....without support, which it actively seeked. It got plenty of that in this RP. I don't care what anyone says to this comment, but this burden has to get off of my chest; This game was supposed to be simple and realistic. When a lot of times was the realism card pulled on me (the USA), a lot of the times no one simply just cared about it. Like when Picard and Sherman agreed that Ottoman and Persia will be more of a "end of the map thing" (paraphrased) but then out of nowhere the Turks came and no one pulled out that card. Realism! I know I went crazy once, but that was when I had had enough! The moment when a few people said that they were going to intervene in the civil war because I wasn't "trading", I was shocked! And when Peru and Mexico invaded with nearly 550000 men, no card was pulled out. I rather just stop it right here. YOUD rather stop it right here. Thats your opinion. Its been your opinion for years. I agree about Picard and Turkey. Which Ivan Kolev fixed anyway, or do you forget? More than once you went crazy, but you misquote the past. Mexico DID invade with 550,000 men, which we all agree was unrealistic. but that has nothing to do with me. I invaded with 50,000 men, followed I think with another 50,000. 100,000 over a year or 2 is more than reasonable by the standards of this RP and maybe history. Of course, you have a low opinion of this RP anyway. Its realism anyway. It was only Frederick the Great that was completely angry over the trading thing, and even he agreed with the rest of us. I intervened over the wonderful ALT-history concept of a CSA victory. I also intended to help it survive so that the USA would not turn into a massive superpower capable of destroying South America single-handed. No doubt Mexico wanted his land back as an ulterior motive. Anyway, you say you don't care about a response. Fine, but I reserve the need to speak what I consider to be the truth. I particularly hate factual inaccuracies taking over debates and conversations. |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Mar 2, 2017 15:59:49 GMT
I don't care what anyone says to this comment, but this burden has to get off of my chest; This game was supposed to be simple and realistic. When a lot of times was the realism card pulled on me (the USA), a lot of the times no one simply just cared about it. Like when Picard and Sherman agreed that Ottoman and Persia will be more of a "end of the map thing" (paraphrased) but then out of nowhere the Turks came and no one pulled out that card. Realism! I know I went crazy once, but that was when I had had enough! The moment when a few people said that they were going to intervene in the civil war because I wasn't "trading", I was shocked! And when Peru and Mexico invaded with nearly 550000 men, no card was pulled out. I rather just stop it right here. YOUD rather stop it right here. Thats your opinion. Its been your opinion for years. I agree about Picard and Turkey. Which Ivan Kolev fixed anyway, or do you forget? More than once you went crazy, but you misquote the past. Mexico DID invade with 550,000 men, which we all agree was unrealistic. but that has nothing to do with me. I invaded with 50,000 men, followed I think with another 50,000. 100,000 over a year or 2 is more than reasonable by the standards of this RP and maybe history. Of course, you have a low opinion of this RP anyway. Its realism anyway. It was only Frederick the Great that was completely angry over the trading thing, and even he agreed with the rest of us. I intervened over the wonderful ALT-history concept of a CSA victory. I also intended to help it survive so that the USA would not turn into a massive superpower capable of destroying South America single-handed. No doubt Mexico wanted his land back as an ulterior motive. Anyway, you say you don't care about a response. Fine, but I reserve the need to speak what I consider to be the truth. I particularly hate factual inaccuracies taking over debates and conversations. I don't want a flame war but everyone should keep it in mind, the next time whenever we play either keep the realism card or throw it out of the window, this partial-realism shouldn't happen. And besides, I wasn't interested in your land anyway, in the end the most I would've done after defeating the CSA was to rebuild the whole country or just keep selling things. YOUR LAND was never on the priority list. I can't have my West Coast, why? Oh because someone took it from me? OK. And then you have Chile taking over Philippines and Hawaii and Peru takes over New Guinea, the CSA makes a colony in Namibia but I can't get three states back! Chile wanted a war pretty bad with me in which it'd gotten all of its population dead (knowing that they had a really small population anyway) while I had probably the biggest population in the Americas. You guys were basically planning for your own destruction. oh and did I mention I was planning to demand for war reparations in the future wars in which I would've been involved (and I would've won them)? Yeah, that was a good idea. |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 2, 2017 16:50:44 GMT
Peru-Bolivia 1848 Brazilian Front.
Presidente Patricio declares that the army must prepare for threats everywhere. The Volk must be protected.
The army will increase to 500,000 men, counting reserves (as always)
Brazil has angered the government. Its slavery policies are disgusting. Its control over the Amazon is undesired, and converts to TimocracyTM from Acre clamour for release from Brazilian law.
In support of her allies, Peru-Bolivia rises. 250,000 men march into Brazil, starting with Acre province. Legionnaires armed with repeaters lead the way. Minimum is 5.
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Acre remains Brazilian. 15,000 Brazilian troops, and -20,000 Legionnaires are among the fallen. headed by Turncoats, flower legionnaires, and converted natives, the Legion marches into Rondonia rainforest. Minimum is 5.
10,000 Brazilians and 10,000 Legionnaries perish. The Presidente decides to order a deviation from the plan, marching on Mato Grosso. Minimum of 6.
18,000 Brazilians and 7,000 Legionnaries die. This is a great victory, in both territory gained and losses sustained.
The Presdiente demands one more attempt to take Acre. All remaining troops not occupying Mato Grosso are poured into Acre. Minimum of 6. Heavy losses are expected.
Acre is finally taken. 12,000 Legionnaires and 9,000 Brazilians perish.
Total losses: 41,000 Brazilians and 35,000 Legionnaires.
Brazilians are forced to shift their remaining forces. Rolling for that. -1 to result shall be enforced potentially.
40,000 out of 400,000 uninvolved troops are shifted. This almost completely replaces their losses (against PBC anyway)
In my position as Brazil, I release the current amounts.
BRAZIL REACTIVE ORDER OF BATTLE
149,000 defending against Peru-Bolivia
260,000 defending against Gran Colombia.
90,000 defending against ParaUruguay
10,000 Portuguese each in north east and south coastal regions.
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Mar 2, 2017 16:52:59 GMT
Isn't the game dead already?
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 2, 2017 17:13:12 GMT
Isn't the game dead already? I had to deliver the turn I promised to my allies!!!!!!!!!!! Why is it over? The USA which is leaving is about one third- one half the size it is IRL (population). It is a broken nation, up until now determined to regain its glory, but no longer the integral force it once was. We have 3 players leaving (at least 2 anyway) The other one is Honduras, which is a minor country. The CSA, which didn't even exist at start, is the only major country we will be missing. What countries are balkanized Quintus Fabius? Mexico for one, is still slightly larger than IRL. Is 2017 Mexico balkanized? |
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