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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Oct 8, 2016 0:24:20 GMT
I don't think @communist and Monty :D have the time to make the map of an entire continent The way I see it, it's either we are patient and have a better product, or make the process quicker and have a subpar product. This thing could take months, maybe even more than a year, to make, but in the end, we would all enjoy it far far more. I disagree. 1) The Westward Expansion is not, realistically, a war (spare the Mexican-American war) 2) It's something we can do without, and thus not necessarily worth the hassle. We can get good gameplay with the existing continents and moving units and allegiances |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 0:29:16 GMT
I don't have the skills to add a new map.
First get me a link to the Chinese for EW4 and I will take a look.
I found the tools to mod WC3 and I sure I may be able to find some extra help of guides.
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Oct 8, 2016 0:44:18 GMT
The way I see it, it's either we are patient and have a better product, or make the process quicker and have a subpar product. This thing could take months, maybe even more than a year, to make, but in the end, we would all enjoy it far far more. I disagree. 1) The Westward Expansion is not, realistically, a war (spare the Mexican-American war) 2) It's something we can do without, and thus not necessarily worth the hassle. We can get good gameplay with the existing continents and moving units and allegiances I COMPLETELY disagree. 1.) It's how a more than a 1/3 of our country was added. 2.) You made the point, the Mexican-American War! Arguably one of the most important conflicts in recent history imo. 3.) It would enhance the gameplay tenfold. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Oct 8, 2016 0:49:16 GMT
I disagree. 1) The Westward Expansion is not, realistically, a war (spare the Mexican-American war) 2) It's something we can do without, and thus not necessarily worth the hassle. We can get good gameplay with the existing continents and moving units and allegiances I COMPLETELY disagree. 1.) It's how a more than a 1/3 of our country was added. 2.) You made the point, the Mexican-American War! Arguably one of the most important conflicts in recent history imo. 3.) It would enhance the gameplay tenfold. 1. Louisiana (1/3) was bought. Oregon was acquired by treaty 2. I agree 3. Really? I'd love to see it as much as the next guy, but not enough to pour this much effort into it, or ask others to American history is fascinating, but for the sake of having a mod within reasonable time, it has to be omitted |
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Post by Stonewall Jackson on Oct 8, 2016 1:03:10 GMT
I think I would agree that the mod can take its time for a more superior product than an inferior one. Maybe we could add the Mexican-American war, but everything else regarding Manifest Destiny and the expansion west should not be included IMO. But overall Manifest Destiny was very important, Obtaining Oregon country, annexation of Texas, etc
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Oct 8, 2016 1:12:09 GMT
I think I would agree that the mod can take its time for a more superior product than an inferior one. Maybe we could add the Mexican-American war, but everything else regarding Manifest Destiny and the expansion west should not be included IMO. But overall Manifest Destiny was very important, Obtaining Oregon country, annexation of Texas, etc I'm not sure you understand how momentous an undertaking it is (no offense intended). Moving units around is tedious in itself. Generating a map of this scope and placing units on it is an affair that, in itself, will take many months of hard labor. |
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Oct 8, 2016 1:18:42 GMT
I COMPLETELY disagree. 1.) It's how a more than a 1/3 of our country was added. 2.) You made the point, the Mexican-American War! Arguably one of the most important conflicts in recent history imo. 3.) It would enhance the gameplay tenfold. 1. Louisiana (1/3) was bought. Oregon was acquired by treaty 2. I agree 3. Really? I'd love to see it as much as the next guy, but not enough to pour this much effort into it, or ask others to American history is fascinating, but for the sake of having a mod within reasonable time, it has to be omitted 1.) I mean no offense when saying this, nor curtness, but I know my American history. I know of the treaty the Polk administration signed with the U.K and the Louisiana Purchase. But the state of Texas alone is larger than FRANCE. And California is also incredibly large as well, not even taking into account New Mexico, Utah, Nevada and Arizona. 2.) I believe it would very much enhance it, just due to the addition of having a new map. I've played EW4 to death, but playing with the same map over and over and over again just gets tiring. Something new such as adding the West would add a lot more variety to the game. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Oct 8, 2016 1:23:08 GMT
1. Louisiana (1/3) was bought. Oregon was acquired by treaty 2. I agree 3. Really? I'd love to see it as much as the next guy, but not enough to pour this much effort into it, or ask others to American history is fascinating, but for the sake of having a mod within reasonable time, it has to be omitted 1.) I mean no offense when saying this, nor curtness, but I know my American history. I know of the treaty the Polk administration signed with the U.K and the Louisiana Purchase. But the state of Texas alone is larger than FRANCE. And California is also incredibly large as well, not even taking into account New Mexico, Utah, Nevada and Arizona. 2.) I believe it would very much enhance it, just due to the addition of having a new map. I've played EW4 to death, but playing with the same map over and over and over again just gets tiring. Something new such as adding the West would add a lot more variety to the game. The new map would be an enhancement, but since each hex and unit must be added individually and manually, it is an undertaking of tremendous size |
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Post by Desophaeus on Oct 8, 2016 1:29:36 GMT
I would generally think of the idea to do a conquest or a campaign about the American west as a great idea. I however side with Jean-Luc Picard on this particular case. Easytech games are poor choices when it comes to "modd-ablity". It's already insanely difficult to mod EW4 to something else with the exact same maps by editing the attributes inside those pre-existing files, let alone creating brand-new files and insert them into the apk. Ack! My head would've exploded trying to tackle a huge project this size especially when I have some limitations on my free time. I can't imagine how Monty :D would feel if he tried this idea. |
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Post by Monty :D on Oct 8, 2016 1:49:16 GMT
I would generally think of the idea to do a conquest or a campaign about the American west as a great idea. I however side with Jean-Luc Picard on this particular case. Easytech games are poor choices when it comes to "modd-ablity". It's already insanely difficult to mod EW4 to something else with the exact same maps by editing the attributes inside those pre-existing files, let alone creating brand-new files and insert them into the apk. Ack! My head would've exploded trying to tackle a huge project this size especially when I have some limitations on my free time. I can't imagine how Monty :D would feel if he tried this idea. Exactly, adding a new map and hexes would be a massive project, and even if the westward expansion was crucial to american history, the battles would get repetetive fighting indians and mexicans. For now me and two other friends are attempting to create an editor since hex based editing is to tedious. So that is my current project for now. Maybe at some later date I and the modding team will. Try to add asia, since I think alot of interesting battles could take place there. On a side note im currently in AP american history  . |
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Post by Stonewall Jackson on Oct 8, 2016 3:32:25 GMT
I think I would agree that the mod can take its time for a more superior product than an inferior one. Maybe we could add the Mexican-American war, but everything else regarding Manifest Destiny and the expansion west should not be included IMO. But overall Manifest Destiny was very important, Obtaining Oregon country, annexation of Texas, etc I'm not sure you understand how momentous an undertaking it is (no offense intended). Moving units around is tedious in itself. Generating a map of this scope and placing units on it is an affair that, in itself, will take many months of hard labor. That's why I said Manifest Destiny/Expansion west should not be included. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Oct 8, 2016 3:34:58 GMT
I'm not sure you understand how momentous an undertaking it is (no offense intended). Moving units around is tedious in itself. Generating a map of this scope and placing units on it is an affair that, in itself, will take many months of hard labor. That's why I said Manifest Destiny/Expansion west should not be included. Precisely. Too much work for the modders, even with 2 (soon 3) of us |
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Post by Stonewall Jackson on Oct 8, 2016 3:37:25 GMT
That's why I said Manifest Destiny/Expansion west should not be included. Precisely. Too much work for the modders, even with 2 (soon 3) of us I agree. Like you even said, I personally don't mod anything myself, so I don't understand what it takes or how much time it takes for someone to make a masterpiece of a mod. We should be thankful for what we get and the contributions made my the mod team |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2016 0:06:13 GMT
This mod may be dead since BJ mod is going the America civil war.
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Oct 21, 2016 3:33:24 GMT
Yeah it is actually dead, bj just ROFLstomped.
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