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Post by Scherzo [Italian Soldier] on Oct 8, 2016 17:33:44 GMT
Greetings, everyone. I've been looking for a solution for a long time, but there's still no answer now.. so I need your advices to continue my progression in World Conqueror 3. In fact, I'd like to know if my current generals are sufficient to finish the Axies and Allies campain ; and if they aren't, how should I do to have enough medals to get Guderian - or an other good enough general to finish Axies, Allies, NATO and WTO missions... and I wanted to know what are the "major" technologies to develop in first to have the best results too. Here are some screens of my progression: - My Generals (Badoglio and Ozawa); - Missions completed; - My Technologies. (My eye-covered generals are not upgraded. They're still Corporal, with 25 HP and 1 star everywhere - except marching ability.) Thanks very much to people who will answer me, I really need your help. Have a good day!
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Post by NetherFreek on Oct 8, 2016 18:53:01 GMT
Those generals are good enough to pass alies and axis. They are excellent.
Your tech tree isnt that amazing. You upgraded forts for an example, which is hardly used. I advice you to upgrade air force in the tech tree. Artillery and tank are main force, so important to upgrade as well.
As for what you should do next, which wonders do you have?
When completing allies 1939 under 65 turns you get a wonder which gives 30 medals every 4 hours. And an industry wonder, build those 2 asap.
Afterwards you can complete axis 1939 under 65 turns. This gives another medal wonder, this one gives 15 every 4 hours.
When you have build them you can leave the game open every night and let the ai play 1939 spain. You get the recourses for that and farm 45 medals every morning. this is a steady income.
For your next general i indeed recommend guderian. Currently you got an air (ozawa), navy (ozawa) and artillery (badoglio). So a tank general is needed, and guderian is the strongest tank general in game.
However, if you dont want to spend/cant get so many medals vatutin will do as well. Afterwards get govorov as second artillery.
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Post by NetherFreek on Oct 8, 2016 18:54:07 GMT
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Post by Scherzo [Italian Soldier] on Oct 8, 2016 19:50:15 GMT
Thank you so much for your answer. I have these Wonders built, right now: - Mir Castle Complex (Cities HP +10) - Kremlin (Steel +10/round) - Pharos (XP +10/20 days) - Hanging Gardens (Gold +10/round) - Potala Palace (Oil +10/round) I'll updgrade Airforce, Artillery and Tank forces in priority then, many thanks.
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Post by Tito on Oct 8, 2016 20:11:18 GMT
Thank you so much for your answer. I have these Wonders built, right now: - Mir Castle Complex (Cities HP +10) - Kremlin (Steel +10/round) - Pharos (XP +10/20 days) - Hanging Gardens (Gold +10/round) - Potala Palace (Oil +10/round) I'll updgrade Airforce, Artillery and Tank forces in priority then, many thanks. Potala Palace is a waste now,but itll be useful later. But Actually the Momment when you most need it is Resource Challanges and Challanges in Africa , but early challanges
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Oct 9, 2016 13:22:28 GMT
Thank you so much for your answer. I have these Wonders built, right now: - Mir Castle Complex (Cities HP +10) - Kremlin (Steel +10/round) - Pharos (XP +10/20 days) - Hanging Gardens (Gold +10/round) - Potala Palace (Oil +10/round) I'll updgrade Airforce, Artillery and Tank forces in priority then, many thanks. To clear 1939 in 65 turns most of all you need air level 5 to get motorized infantry as paratroopers. Level 6 and 7 air is too expensive for now, at level 8 you get commando as paratroopers, which is worse, at least for 1939-1950. If you have it and Badoglio - that's enough for autofarming Spain 1939 and to clear under 65 turns to get medal wonders. For campaigns air is not so important, there you need artillery more than aircraft. To make life easier, you can buy Govorov next (he's cheaper and more useful before you get super tanks) and than save for Guderian
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Post by Scherzo [Italian Soldier] on Oct 9, 2016 13:29:18 GMT
Thank you so much for your answer. I have these Wonders built, right now: - Mir Castle Complex (Cities HP +10) - Kremlin (Steel +10/round) - Pharos (XP +10/20 days) - Hanging Gardens (Gold +10/round) - Potala Palace (Oil +10/round) I'll updgrade Airforce, Artillery and Tank forces in priority then, many thanks. To clear 1939 in 65 turns most of all you need air level 5 to get motorized infantry as paratroopers. Level 6 and 7 air is too expensive for now, at level 8 you get commando as paratroopers, which is worse, at least for 1939-1950. If you have it and Badoglio - that's enough for autofarming Spain 1939 and to clear under 65 turns to get medal wonders. For campaigns air is not so important, there you need artillery more than aircraft. To make life easier, you can buy Govorov next (he's cheaper and more useful before you get super tanks) and than save for Guderian. All right, many thanks ^^
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Post by Tito on Oct 9, 2016 14:50:32 GMT
Thank you so much for your answer. I have these Wonders built, right now: - Mir Castle Complex (Cities HP +10) - Kremlin (Steel +10/round) - Pharos (XP +10/20 days) - Hanging Gardens (Gold +10/round) - Potala Palace (Oil +10/round) I'll updgrade Airforce, Artillery and Tank forces in priority then, many thanks. To clear 1939 in 65 turns most of all you need air level 5 to get motorized infantry as paratroopers. Level 6 and 7 air is too expensive for now, at level 8 you get commando as paratroopers, which is worse, at least for 1939-1950. If you have it and Badoglio - that's enough for autofarming Spain 1939 and to clear under 65 turns to get medal wonders. For campaigns air is not so important, there you need artillery more than aircraft. To make life easier, you can buy Govorov next (he's cheaper and more useful before you get super tanks) and than save for Guderian I had bad tech and Bado only ( +3 Non Upgraded No eyes ) and I finished Finland Without any problems 1939 and also Japan 1939 at 65
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Oct 9, 2016 16:12:19 GMT
I had bad tech and Bado only ( +3 Non Upgraded No eyes ) and I finished Finland Without any problems 1939 and also Japan 1939 at 65 Sure, that's possible, but without PMI it gets quite boring.
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Post by Tito on Oct 9, 2016 19:21:34 GMT
I had bad tech and Bado only ( +3 Non Upgraded No eyes ) and I finished Finland Without any problems 1939 and also Japan 1939 at 65 Sure, that's possible, but without PMI it gets quite boring. But he asked what is a quick conquest, and we gave him the answer. Also PMI is useful, but costly for him. Its hard to get the resources if you dont FWYS or even do conqests in general
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Post by Scherzo [Italian Soldier] on Oct 12, 2016 14:04:24 GMT
Sure, it's quite hard to get all the ressources I need for PMI, but I'm trying. Anyway, thanks a lot guys, you helped me so much. I was just wondering, though: one of my friends (who is playing at every World Conqueror, Age of Empires, and a lot of other strategic games) told me that Panzer (tanks) Generals are very usefull, and I have to buy one before Guderian. He told me to buy Meyer (I have 410 medals now), at least to got every Bronze and/or Silver stars in Axis and Allies missions. I'm stuck in Fall Gelb (gold mission), I just have 2 out of 3 gold stars. What do you think ? Should I buy Meyer to get every stars, or should I make every mission in order to got more and more medals, whatever the number of stars I get ?
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Post by Tito on Oct 12, 2016 14:52:59 GMT
Sure, it's quite hard to get all the ressources I need for PMI, but I'm trying. Anyway, thanks a lot guys, you helped me so much. I was just wondering, though: one of my friends (who is playing at every World Conqueror, Age of Empires, and a lot of other strategic games) told me that Panzer (tanks) Generals are very usefull, and I have to buy one before Guderian. He told me to buy Meyer (I have 410 medals now), at least to got every Bronze and/or Silver stars in Axis and Allies missions. I'm stuck in Fall Gelb (gold mission), I just have 2 out of 3 gold stars. What do you think ? Should I buy Meyer to get every stars, or should I make every mission in order to got more and more medals, whatever the number of stars I get ? No dont buy him, Allies are easier to finish ( 9 and 8 are hard but 10is easy ) To get 3 Hold without strong gens is hard so just finish Allies Grind then Finish WTO its way easier than NATO try to finish NATO 2 But after you get Guderian Also when you finish NATO/WTO You get a suprise gift
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Post by Scherzo [Italian Soldier] on Oct 12, 2016 14:57:29 GMT
All right. Thank you for your fast anwser. A surprise gift? Well, I guess it's a lot of medals or a mysterious invasion... I'm so excited
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Post by NetherFreek on Oct 12, 2016 15:06:12 GMT
Sure, it's quite hard to get all the ressources I need for PMI, but I'm trying. Anyway, thanks a lot guys, you helped me so much. I was just wondering, though: one of my friends (who is playing at every World Conqueror, Age of Empires, and a lot of other strategic games) told me that Panzer (tanks) Generals are very usefull, and I have to buy one before Guderian. He told me to buy Meyer (I have 410 medals now), at least to got every Bronze and/or Silver stars in Axis and Allies missions. I'm stuck in Fall Gelb (gold mission), I just have 2 out of 3 gold stars. What do you think ? Should I buy Meyer to get every stars, or should I make every mission in order to got more and more medals, whatever the number of stars I get ? Meyer is a waste. Lets compare him with auchinleck and crerar: Damage Total avarage output (damage) Crerar 30,5 Auchinleck 24 Meyer 14,8 Output > 50 Crerar 32 Auchimleck 26 Meyer 16,8 Output < 50 Crerar 29 Auchinleck 22 Meyer 12,8 Damage conclusion: As you can see, meyer deals very low damage in comparising with the rest of the generals. A clear victory for crerar. Survivability Auchinleck 100 Crerar 80 Meyer 37.1 Lives Auchinleck 100 Crerar 80 Meyer 35 Land damage resistence Meyer 6 Crerar 0 Auchinleck 0 Survivability conclusion: As you can see meyer is the only one with a survivability skill. But that 6% isnt going to save his crappy health. This round goes to auchinleck. Overall conclusion: Damage --> crerar Survivability --> auchinleck But its best to get none
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Post by NetherFreek on Oct 12, 2016 15:11:38 GMT
Btw if you think guderian is too expensive get vatutin, hes pretty cheap.
his scores to compare with those other 3.
Avarage damage Vatutin 47,3
Damage >50 Vatutin 38,8
Damage <50 Vatutin 55,8
Survivability Vatutin 120
Lives per turn Vatutin 2 (Meyer, crerar, auchinleck all had 0)
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