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Post by Desophaeus on Feb 10, 2017 17:20:11 GMT
I liked the Hobbit as a book, but haven't seen the movies and don't plan to due to similar reasons of what you said. But the LOTR books and movies are amazing The Hobbit is a waste of time, like netherfreek said, full of non-canon BS, like (spoiler alert) who TF is the pale Orc, he wasn't in the book, I read it 3 times, and no pale orc, or any orc that I remember, maybe an orc army in the battle of 7 armies (may have the number wrong, may be 5...), But besides that, it mentioned explicitly GOBLINS, G-O-B-L-I-N. The LOTR franchise is a lot better, at least the movie side, don't know about the books though, LOTR movies will always have a place in my heart as my favourite movie trilogy. Looking forward to the new set of movies coming out though. --Not a spoiler-- The Battle of Five Armies, but you guessed it. You're right, the pale Orc was actually more of background information that was happening BEFORE the Hobbit's time. The pale Orc was the enemy of the drawf leader's father and already dead before the book started. I guess the director borrowed him to pad the story. Same thing for Legolas, he wasn't in the book but he was in the general region, so the add-in of Legolas is perfectly understandable and acceptable, but the female elf came out of nonewhere. There was NO female elves in the book. There was no justifiable reason for a female elf to leave the kingdom of elves in Mirkwood and do things in the outside world. I know feminists would be angry if there was no "action girl" in a movie nowdays. Fan-fic  --Plot not revealed-- |
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Post by Mountbatten on Feb 11, 2017 0:28:58 GMT
The Hobbit is a waste of time, like netherfreek said, full of non-canon BS, like (spoiler alert) who TF is the pale Orc, he wasn't in the book, I read it 3 times, and no pale orc, or any orc that I remember, maybe an orc army in the battle of 7 armies (may have the number wrong, may be 5...), But besides that, it mentioned explicitly GOBLINS, G-O-B-L-I-N. The LOTR franchise is a lot better, at least the movie side, don't know about the books though, LOTR movies will always have a place in my heart as my favourite movie trilogy. Looking forward to the new set of movies coming out though. --Not a spoiler-- The Battle of Five Armies, but you guessed it. You're right, the pale Orc was actually more of background information that was happening BEFORE the Hobbit's time. The pale Orc was the enemy of the drawf leader's father and already dead before the book started. I guess the director borrowed him to pad the story. Same thing for Legolas, he wasn't in the book but he was in the general region, so the add-in of Legolas is perfectly understandable and acceptable, but the female elf came out of nonewhere. There was NO female elves in the book. There was no justifiable reason for a female elf to leave the kingdom of elves in Mirkwood and do things in the outside world. I know feminists would be angry if there was no "action girl" in a movie nowdays. Fan-fic --Plot not revealed-- Very true on the last point |
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Post by wilbur2016 on Feb 12, 2017 0:57:59 GMT
The Hobbit is a waste of time, like netherfreek said, full of non-canon BS, like (spoiler alert) who TF is the pale Orc, he wasn't in the book, I read it 3 times, and no pale orc, or any orc that I remember, maybe an orc army in the battle of 7 armies (may have the number wrong, may be 5...), But besides that, it mentioned explicitly GOBLINS, G-O-B-L-I-N. The LOTR franchise is a lot better, at least the movie side, don't know about the books though, LOTR movies will always have a place in my heart as my favourite movie trilogy. Looking forward to the new set of movies coming out though. --Not a spoiler-- The Battle of Five Armies, but you guessed it. You're right, the pale Orc was actually more of background information that was happening BEFORE the Hobbit's time. The pale Orc was the enemy of the drawf leader's father and already dead before the book started. I guess the director borrowed him to pad the story. Same thing for Legolas, he wasn't in the book but he was in the general region, so the add-in of Legolas is perfectly understandable and acceptable, but the female elf came out of nonewhere. There was NO female elves in the book. There was no justifiable reason for a female elf to leave the kingdom of elves in Mirkwood and do things in the outside world. I know feminists would be angry if there was no "action girl" in a movie nowdays. Fan-fic --Plot not revealed-- Yeah, they even said that the pale orc was KILLED in the beginning when he first appeared, but they said that he survived wounded in the movie, and the add in with legolas makes sense kind of, if my memory serves me, they did talk about mirkwood elves, and I think that Legolas in LOTR is originally from mirkwood, so that kind of fits in even though Legolas wasn't specified in the book as him, they never directly pointed out the genders of the elves in the book besides the king of mirkwood, so she kind of fits in, really the same level as Legolas in my opinion. |
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Post by wilbur2016 on Feb 12, 2017 0:59:08 GMT
Not gonna say who killed him or how though, probably would reveal too much of the movie.
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