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Post by PzGermany24 on Dec 21, 2016 1:26:42 GMT
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Post by Bismarck Jr on Dec 28, 2016 14:03:37 GMT
Culturally, Germany is Eastern European, Geographically, both... decisions decisions...
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Dec 28, 2016 22:45:54 GMT
Culturally, Germany is Eastern European, Geographically, both... decisions decisions... As far as I know, you have more experience in this matter. However, I'd contest that, maybe. As a culture group (not as a modern country and people), it predates Eastern Europe as a very concept by hundreds of years. If we go by the cold war, its closest relative, Austria, was under western (NATO) control. Its (Germany) eastern portion was Eastern-tied by right of conquest, not by birth. I suppose if we included the Czechs and such people, it has eastern relatives. These regions being tied to Germans historically. But these groups were never considered German as far as I know. If we extend Germania to include the Scandinavians and such, the vast majority of culturally related groups are western european. The Ancient Germans also populated France and most importantly England, all western countries. however France is NOT considered german, and through the centuries England has forged its own identity not identical to the German Republic. I don't know if that right there was clear enough and good enough an arguement, but to conclude I think Germany is more likely to be considered western, and in any case It should be grouped with the Austrians and such people as Central Europe, a common designation not employed here. |
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Post by Bismarck Jr on Dec 29, 2016 2:34:04 GMT
Culturally, Germany is Eastern European, Geographically, both... decisions decisions... As far as I know, you have more experience in this matter. However, I'd contest that, maybe. As a culture group (not as a modern country and people), it predates Eastern Europe as a very concept by hundreds of years. If we go by the cold war, its closest relative, Austria, was under western (NATO) control. Its (Germany) eastern portion was Eastern-tied by right of conquest, not by birth. I suppose if we included the Czechs and such people, it has eastern relatives. These regions being tied to Germans historically. But these groups were never considered German as far as I know. If we extend Germania to include the Scandinavians and such, the vast majority of culturally related groups are western european. The Ancient Germans also populated France and most importantly England, all western countries. however France is NOT considered german, and through the centuries England has forged its own identity not identical to the German Republic. I don't know if that right there was clear enough and good enough an arguement, but to conclude I think Germany is more likely to be considered western, and in any case It should be grouped with the Austrians and such people as Central Europe, a common designation not employed here. In modern geography, the idea of east and west europe goes from the iron curtain, however, Germany was basically split. Though the culture part as you say can also arguably be western. |
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Post by junius on Dec 30, 2016 18:49:09 GMT
I was born in the US, but I live in India right now. I'd say Germany is Western European now- it got its religion from Rome rather than Constantinople and most of its institutions have been modelled on or pioneers of Western ones for centuries. It was affected by historical and cultural movements analogous to those in France or Britain or Italy. All these factors would IMO place Germany in Western Europe.
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