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Post by border on Dec 1, 2016 9:33:48 GMT
So, I have more or less cleared all "human" missions and conquers. That means I am facing the Allien future. Now, I have Ozawa, Bodaglio, Govorov, Guderian and Patton. I have around 1.8K Medals. I have read the beginners "Attention New Players..." where my next general should be Goring, but he is a Navy general and I need someone who is good against Alliens. Any suggestions?
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Dec 1, 2016 10:54:00 GMT
Govorov is the best choice now.
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Post by border on Dec 1, 2016 11:30:11 GMT
I noticed that I wrote Konev insted of Govorov. I have Govorov. Who should be next?
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Post by Der Kaiserreich on Dec 1, 2016 11:58:50 GMT
I noticed that I wrote Konev insted of Govorov. I have Govorov. Who should be next? Edited then? Well, you have 2 arty gens Badogilo and Govorov, I suppose you can get any good arty gens left. Maybe Konev and Bai?
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Post by border on Dec 1, 2016 12:24:44 GMT
Okey, so I should get one more Art General?
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Dec 1, 2016 14:44:03 GMT
I noticed that I wrote Konev insted of Govorov. I have Govorov. Who should be next? At this point you can start to build art EC with plain, supply, explosives, barrage and street (raise everything balanced). Right now he will not be so good, but when you invest some 3-4 K, he becomes good, and when about 5-6 K he becomes better than academy gens.
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Post by border on Dec 1, 2016 18:22:34 GMT
I noticed that I wrote Konev insted of Govorov. I have Govorov. Who should be next? At this point you can start to build art EC with plain, supply, explosives, barrage and street (raise everything balanced). Right now he will not be so good, but when you invest some 3-4 K, he becomes good, and when about 5-6 K he becomes better than academy gens. Okey. So you suggest that I skip Konov and go for custom made generals?
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Dec 1, 2016 19:30:12 GMT
I suggest you get either Bai or Konev, then start making EC (you will sell Bado to fund the EC)
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Dec 1, 2016 20:19:07 GMT
Okey. So you suggest that I skip Konov and go for custom made generals? Yes. You can use Konev if you want to get art and inf gen in one, but that's not so useful. In fact in final lineup the best is to have Govorov, Guderian and Patton (as more prefer, but I have taken Vatulin, whose speed and survivability is less, but he has bigger damage) , and 3 ECs, 1 tank and 2 art. I also prefer to have Vasilevsky, as in many campaigns it is not worth to buy additional tank or art, but you can use commando, which you have initially. However, Vasilevsky and Vatulin - that is discussible, but Guderian, Govorov, other tanker and 3 ECs - that's for sure.
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Post by border on Dec 1, 2016 20:49:08 GMT
Hmm okey. That puts me in a dilemma. To get Konev or go straigt for EC. Thx for the input guys. I have learnd that Rocket Artillery is the way to go against Alliens. Logicly, art generals are to prefer.
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Dec 1, 2016 22:15:18 GMT
Hmm okey. That puts me in a dilemma. To get Konev or go straigt for EC. Thx for the input guys. I have learnd that Rocket Artillery is the way to go against Alliens. Logicly, art generals are to prefer. Rocket? Without gens for sure, but with a good gen field art is more useful. If you have more units than enemies, than may be, but if enemies are more or you're in a hurry ( and this is almost always), field art is better.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Dec 2, 2016 0:40:44 GMT
Hmm okey. That puts me in a dilemma. To get Konev or go straigt for EC. Thx for the input guys. I have learnd that Rocket Artillery is the way to go against Alliens. Logicly, art generals are to prefer. Rocket? Without gens for sure, but with a good gen field art is more useful. If you have more units than enemies, than may be, but if enemies are more or you're in a hurry ( and this is almost always), field art is better. Not necessarily. RA is good for attacking, FA for defending. FA is definitely better at the beginning, though
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Dec 2, 2016 1:48:49 GMT
Not necessarily. RA is good for attacking, FA for defending. FA is definitely better at the beginning, though Good for attacking if enemy don't shots to you, for example, in Union 3 RA can shot tower, while it attacks city. But if enemy shots to you, each turn you miss counterattack, which causes longer time to kill enemy. If you are one against two enemies, each turn you miss 0.8-2 counterattacks, but enemy only 0.4 compared with FA, agains 3 or more situation is even worse. For example, good EC in FA in city, even with 0 hp city can win the battle against some 6-7 enemies without a big problems even if some of them are spaceships, but RA I'm not sure if will be able to win even 4 ufos. Sure, if you have 2 or 5 movement stars, RA can move faster and compensate longer battles, but anyway, RA is useful only for some particular tasks, not like the main force.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Dec 2, 2016 2:03:44 GMT
Not necessarily. RA is good for attacking, FA for defending. FA is definitely better at the beginning, though Good for attacking if enemy don't shots to you, for example, in Union 3 RA can shot tower, while it attacks city. But if enemy shots to you, each turn you miss counterattack, which causes longer time to kill enemy. If you are one against two enemies, each turn you miss 0.8-2 counterattacks, but enemy only 0.4 compared with FA, agains 3 or more situation is even worse. For example, good EC in FA in city, even with 0 hp city can win the battle against some 6-7 enemies without a big problems even if some of them are spaceships, but RA I'm not sure if will be able to win even 4 ufos. Sure, if you have 2 or 5 movement stars, RA can move faster and compensate longer battles, but anyway, RA is useful only for some particular tasks, not like the main force. At the same time that you lose opportunities to counterattack, you're dodging damage. Often in Aliens, the damage you dodge is more than that you don't get to deal.
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Post by daemon on Dec 2, 2016 7:06:37 GMT
let me say a poem for this. Buy tito Better than Rommel on infantry Similar to Yamamoto on Tank Better than Goring on Artillery Similar to Konev on Air Similar to Bai Chong Xi( Bai C. X.)on Navy So buy the generals I spoke earlier. BTW , are you sure you not mistaken goring and Yamamoto? Because goring is a infantry-air general , Yamamoto is Navy-Air General and sometimes works on artillery-air as well p.s Konev and Bai C.X only choose either one
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