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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Jan 24, 2017 9:10:43 GMT
Interesting fact. Christ the Redemeer cost 4k Ind and produces 75ind/h or 15ind/60d (max 300/4h). Given that, it will take you around 54h or 2.2 days to Break Even. But Borobudur that produces 25ind/60d (500max/4h) or 125ind/h costs 24k ind. The difference between 15ind/60d and 25ind/60d is about 166% but the cost is 6x the difference! Basically, to break even it takes around 192h or 8 days around 3.6x more then Christ the Redemeer. Or have I gotten the calculations wrong? Anyways, this could be useful when deciding wether to purchase a wonder. In my case, I have to save up for City of Cuzco which costs 80k ind. I bought Christ the Redemeer and have about 32k ind. I am maybe 1/3 of the journey and still in the early phase. I have Conquer 50-aliens left and maybe 3/5 of the campaigns left. That makes me believe that it would be faster to get City of Cuzco by not purchasing Borobudur and clear the campaigns and world conquers. Of course, your activity has an direct impact. If you do not play often, then maybe going for Borobudur is better and farm, but i think if you play actively, it is faster not to buy Borobudur. |
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Post by border on Jan 26, 2017 15:08:49 GMT
Interesting fact. Christ the Redemeer cost 4k Ind and produces 75ind/h or 15ind/60d (max 300/4h). Given that, it will take you around 54h or 2.2 days to Break Even. But Borobudur that produces 25ind/60d (500max/4h) or 125ind/h costs 24k ind. The difference between 15ind/60d and 25ind/60d is about 166% but the cost is 6x the difference! Basically, to break even it takes around 192h or 8 days around 3.6x more then Christ the Redemeer. Or have I gotten the calculations wrong? Anyways, this could be useful when deciding wether to purchase a wonder. In my case, I have to save up for City of Cuzco which costs 80k ind. I bought Christ the Redemeer and have about 32k ind. I am maybe 1/3 of the journey and still in the early phase. I have Conquer 50-aliens left and maybe 3/5 of the campaigns left. That makes me believe that it would be faster to get City of Cuzco by not purchasing Borobudur and clear the campaigns and world conquers. Of course, your activity has an direct impact. If you do not play often, then maybe going for Borobudur is better and farm, but i think if you play actively, it is faster not to buy Borobudur. Yes. At the end, you would need al the wonder resources, however, it is in the beginning when every move is crucial. If you make a wrong move, it could set you back for a lot of time, and in worst case, make you to restart. It took me 3 restarts to get on track, and I am still making rookie mistakes. But that makes the game fun. You really have to think I guess. |
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Jan 26, 2017 21:33:16 GMT
Yes. At the end, you would need al the wonder resources, however, it is in the beginning when every move is crucial. If you make a wrong move, it could set you back for a lot of time, and in worst case, make you to restart. It took me 3 restarts to get on track, and I am still making rookie mistakes. But that makes the game fun. You really have to think I guess. If you don't waste medals, it's not worth to restart anyway. If you wasted some resources, it's easier to get them by clearing some conquests. And if you have medal wonders, in most cases it is not worth to restart anyway. |
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Post by border on Jan 27, 2017 9:45:43 GMT
Yes. At the end, you would need al the wonder resources, however, it is in the beginning when every move is crucial. If you make a wrong move, it could set you back for a lot of time, and in worst case, make you to restart. It took me 3 restarts to get on track, and I am still making rookie mistakes. But that makes the game fun. You really have to think I guess. If you don't waste medals, it's not worth to restart anyway. If you wasted some resources, it's easier to get them by clearing some conquests. And if you have medal wonders, in most cases it is not worth to restart anyway. Indeed. However, my first try, I wasted medels in the beginning by uppgrading EC. Did not have a clue about wonder medels. Second time around, I did have all wonder medels, but made som errors when selling generals, and I came to the conclusion that it would be faster to restart then farm for medals. Anyway, it comes down to how often you play/farm. |
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Post by omarbradley on Feb 4, 2017 18:41:11 GMT
It does sound a lot, but I guess we all have different perspectives. The question is which way is the most effective? At the end, alliens are the biggest problem and wha suits best to beat alliens? If you do not farm much, 3 academy arti (Gov+Bado+Bai/Konev) is good. People who farm much, like Stierlitz, recommend EC's or ion. Can Bai replace Bado? Cause I prefer movement. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Feb 4, 2017 19:11:24 GMT
If you do not farm much, 3 academy arti (Gov+Bado+Bai/Konev) is good. People who farm much, like Stierlitz, recommend EC's or ion. Can Bai replace Bado? Cause I prefer movement. As in Govorov, Bai, and Konev? Hypothetically, but you buy Bado at the start anyway |
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Post by omarbradley on Feb 4, 2017 21:33:12 GMT
Can Bai replace Bado? Cause I prefer movement. As in Govorov, Bai, and Konev? Hypothetically, but you buy Bado at the start anyway Yeah, most people do that, however, I had the privilege of starting with Manstein, so I was able to skip Bado. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Feb 4, 2017 21:41:16 GMT
As in Govorov, Bai, and Konev? Hypothetically, but you buy Bado at the start anyway Yeah, most people do that, however, I had the privilege of starting with Manstein, so I was able to skip Bado. So you're looking at Manstein instead of Bai/Konev. 4* Art+ 5* move+ 4* Explosive+ 3* Plain makes him better than Bai. If you want a full rundown of Manstein on artillery, ask the man ( Erich von Manstein ) himself |
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Post by border on Feb 6, 2017 12:02:42 GMT
As in Govorov, Bai, and Konev? Hypothetically, but you buy Bado at the start anyway Yeah, most people do that, however, I had the privilege of starting with Manstein, so I was able to skip Bado. Looking long term, I believe Bado will be used for a longer time then Bai. |
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Post by omarbradley on Feb 6, 2017 14:13:03 GMT
Yeah, most people do that, however, I had the privilege of starting with Manstein, so I was able to skip Bado. So you're looking at Manstein instead of Bai/Konev. 4* Art+ 5* move+ 4* Explosive+ 3* Plain makes him better than Bai. If you want a full rundown of Manstein on artillery, ask the man ( Erich von Manstein ) himself Im honestly amazed at how i forget about simply using manstein on art, this is embarrassing... |
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Post by Desophaeus on Feb 25, 2017 7:36:24 GMT
So you're looking at Manstein instead of Bai/Konev. 4* Art+ 5* move+ 4* Explosive+ 3* Plain makes him better than Bai. If you want a full rundown of Manstein on artillery, ask the man ( Erich von Manstein ) himself Im honestly amazed at how i forget about simply using manstein on art, this is embarrassing... It's okay. Manstein appears to be a tank general because of his skills, but he's equally awesome on artillery AND artillery units can shoot enemies without getting hurt from the defensive combat damage. That's why people who have him likes him on artillery so much. |
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