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Post by Banastre Tarleton on Mar 24, 2017 3:31:43 GMT
Interesting theory there yuanzhong, and you are correct. The 5* for movement version of Isabela can move heavy/seige 5 hexes with 2x horse artillery items. The 2x doesn't seem to impact the light artillery movement where she can go 5 hexes with just 1x horse artillery and isn't helped by the extra item. It seems then, that we can say that 5-hexes is the movement cap for all artillery.
I don't know if the extra move-training stars are playing into this, because I only have the one maxed-out version of Isabela to test.
Tried the same experiment with Sophia and she seems to be capped out at four hexes, even with the two items, so it seems that Isabela retains her movement edge apples to apples against all other artillery generals.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 24, 2017 3:58:09 GMT
Interesting theory there yuanzhong, and you are correct. The 5* for movement version of Isabela can move heavy/seige 5 hexes with 2x horse artillery items. The 2x doesn't seem to impact the light artillery movement where she can go 5 hexes with just 1x horse artillery and isn't helped by the extra item. It seems then, that we can say that 5-hexes is the movement cap for all artillery. I don't know if the extra move-training stars are playing into this, because I only have the one maxed-out version of Isabela to test. Tried the same experiment with Sophia and she seems to be capped out at four hexes, even with the two items, so it seems that Isabela retains her movement edge apples to apples against all other artillery generals. Using the equation, of 3 move points per hex (on the plain, or with geography): 5 (move stars) +2 (item) +2 (item) +2 (engineering)=11 move points. Light artillery has 6 move points, heavy has 5, so she gets 5 hexes either way |
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Post by Banastre Tarleton on Mar 24, 2017 17:51:57 GMT
Yes, the math wasn't in question, it was whether Isabela would be subject to some sort of hard limit.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 24, 2017 22:28:19 GMT
Yes, the math wasn't in question, it was whether Isabela would be subject to some sort of hard limit. I don't believe any hard limits on movement exist in the game. |
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Post by pathdoc on Mar 28, 2017 11:00:04 GMT
Yes, the math wasn't in question, it was whether Isabela would be subject to some sort of hard limit. I don't believe any hard limits on movement exist in the game. The ultimate way to test this is of course to hack a movement item, set it to yield some absurd number of extra movement points, then give it to an appropriately qualified and assigned general equipped with War Horse and see what happens. With a high enough value, one should by this reckoning be able to go from Cadiz to Moscow in one move. If we are going to have armoured cars and ironclad warships in the nominally Napoleonic era, why should we not go one extra step and have a Paratrooper item, at least in a mod? IIRC the idea of aerial assault troops was first mooted by Benjamin Franklin, so the concept isn't anachronistic, nor (given the existence of the Montgolfier balloon) is the technology - sort of. Of course it would have to be fiendishly expensive... |
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Post by Charlemagne on Jul 29, 2018 4:14:03 GMT
It's amazing. I roll with Golitsyn, Sophia, Isabella, and Kate, and I've beaten everything until Restoration of Empire. I just love to have 3-4 artillery generals pounding the daylights out of one hapless enemy general. Truly an awesome feeling.
I have Golitsyn and Sophia. I had Kutaisov but then got Sophia and made her 3 at artillery. She moves 3 grids in a rocket!
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Post by Iosef Stalin on Jul 29, 2018 16:59:13 GMT
So,im now stucking at Assault on French,i dont understand,how i should win this match,every time i just kill all the generals and then run out of time,so i decide to buy the best arty general,with him i should be able to do the mission,you have ideas,which i should buy? PS:I have 1800 Medals There are many choices. Grouchy, Scharnhorst, Drummond. If you would like to spend emblems, get moreau. If you want to get a princess, do a conquest and get Sophia, Kate or Isabella. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 30, 2018 1:59:04 GMT
I agree with ivan konev.
If you wanted to spend emblems for an artillery general, get davout. He is really good once regrouped. I just watched him beat down napoleon without losing half is health, and moreau also without diffuclty in the campaign.
He is so good, I rarely play a conquest without him. Even sophia cannot out do him. He has geography which make him not afraid of terrain, and if you regroup him once with a move trainer, he can move three hexes. Plus he is the only artillery general with assualt art which is really powerful.
Moreau also isn’t bad, but he is inferior to davout.
As for non iap
Princesses: Isabella (best artillery general in the game, like moreau except with geography), Sophia (massive damage but slow) (easy to unlock)
Generals 2nd tier: there is really no recommended artillery general that holds a candle to the princesses here. However if you buy someone, get Scharnhorst.
Generals 1st tier: Carteux (pretty much napoleon without banner), Marmont (Grouchy), Kutaisov (best trainer)
Hopefully that helps. Do not get mortier
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Post by theunkwn on Aug 16, 2018 3:53:12 GMT
Hmm, I would say that war horse + 5* arti Nelson does some works as well. With the leadership skill, he can tank without being demoralised by cavalry. Also, with accurate only, his damage is only inferior to Moreau IMO (without taking assault art into account). So a war horse and a potent gunpowder/snare drum (depends on the situation/the items you have), he would just farm the damage from the enemy
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Post by Iosef Stalin on Aug 17, 2018 3:05:07 GMT
leadership is a bad skill for art
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 17, 2018 3:11:59 GMT
leadership is a bad skill for art Not really. I always flank napoleon and kill him easily this way whenever i have to fight against him. However, with leadership your artillery ain’t as vulnerable to cavarly and food shortages. Its a great skill for any unit i feel. |
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Post by Iosef Stalin on Aug 17, 2018 3:29:32 GMT
leadership is a bad skill for art Not really. I always flank napoleon and kill him easily this way whenever i have to fight against him. However, with leadership your artillery ain’t as vulnerable to cavarly and food shortages. Its a great skill for any unit i feel. Yes but the AI is kind of stupid plus who would put art in the front |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 17, 2018 11:46:05 GMT
Not really. I always flank napoleon and kill him easily this way whenever i have to fight against him. However, with leadership your artillery ain’t as vulnerable to cavarly and food shortages. Its a great skill for any unit i feel. Yes but the AI is kind of stupid plus who would put art in the front Honestly, I would, I use it to hammer cavarly all the time. Plus my fastest moving general is an artillery general (Isabella), so if she had leadership instead of ballistics it would help her out a lot. |
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Post by Mountbatten on Aug 17, 2018 23:03:46 GMT
I don't believe any hard limits on movement exist in the game. The ultimate way to test this is of course to hack a movement item, set it to yield some absurd number of extra movement points, then give it to an appropriately qualified and assigned general equipped with War Horse and see what happens. With a high enough value, one should by this reckoning be able to go from Cadiz to Moscow in one move. If we are going to have armoured cars and ironclad warships in the nominally Napoleonic era, why should we not go one extra step and have a Paratrooper item, at least in a mod? IIRC the idea of aerial assault troops was first mooted by Benjamin Franklin, so the concept isn't anachronistic, nor (given the existence of the Montgolfier balloon) is the technology - sort of. Of course it would have to be fiendishly expensive... An entire year a half later, I would like to say that cities in WC have health while EW4 cities do not. Therefore paratroopers would be insanely overpowered as you can just fly into an enemies undefended city, factory, even their capital. And worse, they can do the same to you. Say you're playing as Portugal and take over Iberia and France sends paratroopers into one of your western cities. Then you look back 5 turns later and you lost half your territory. |
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Post by Iosef Stalin on Aug 26, 2018 1:31:07 GMT
I personally vouch for Moreau, or Isabella, if you have her.
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