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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 19:20:34 GMT
This is reasonable only for the mixed teams and in case You don't bother with Commander skill. Otherwise it is better to give all the sets to generals of the same line. For instance, how I see it for archer focused team: Odin - Nobunaga - he is probably the first one to attack strong enemy because of the debuff skills, so best attack and high HP are necessary Keel - Washington - as he has best deff and often used as a shield in the end-game. Titan - to one of the most powerfull generals in the game - Nelson (deff is almost irrelevant because of the range 3) Paladin - Li Hongzang - he needs HP as he is weaker and he also has Leadership what means he will also face strong enemies very often. I am pretty sure for Infantry and Cavalry it will work same way - so Commander could provide better benefit if comparing to assignment only according to the stats of generals. Sure. Obviously, if you need other generals to complete a mission you put your best items on them. What I described was the normal situation, or so called "balanced lineup" mostly used on campaigns, city attacks, and conquests.
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Post by andrei on Mar 23, 2017 9:21:50 GMT
This is reasonable only for the mixed teams and in case You don't bother with Commander skill. Otherwise it is better to give all the sets to generals of the same line. For instance, how I see it for archer focused team: Odin - Nobunaga - he is probably the first one to attack strong enemy because of the debuff skills, so best attack and high HP are necessary Keel - Washington - as he has best deff and often used as a shield in the end-game. Titan - to one of the most powerfull generals in the game - Nelson (deff is almost irrelevant because of the range 3) Paladin - Li Hongzang - he needs HP as he is weaker and he also has Leadership what means he will also face strong enemies very often. I am pretty sure for Infantry and Cavalry it will work same way - so Commander could provide better benefit if comparing to assignment only according to the stats of generals. Sure. Obviously, if you need other generals to complete a mission you put your best items on them. What I described was the normal situation, or so called "balanced lineup" mostly used on campaigns, city attacks, and conquests. Agree. For balanced team stats is the main characteristic But frankly speaking by the time You have all these sets You probably already had completed campaigns, conquests and city defence missions. Probably Empire mode attack cities could require some gear depending on the team.
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Post by stoic on Mar 23, 2017 13:47:56 GMT
That is true... I see it as a last resort. Like an expensive toy: it's nice to have it, but you can live without it. At least for most of the time :-)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 23:10:41 GMT
Sure. Obviously, if you need other generals to complete a mission you put your best items on them. What I described was the normal situation, or so called "balanced lineup" mostly used on campaigns, city attacks, and conquests. Agree. For balanced team stats is the main characteristic But frankly speaking by the time You have all these sets You probably already had completed campaigns, conquests and city defence missions. Probably Empire mode attack cities could require some gear depending on the team. I do like a balanced lineup more. And those generals benefit more from the sets than another lineup, like the archer one. And if the archer or the balanced lineups are better is a whole different topic, and variates between taste, playstyle and strategy.
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Post by andrei on Mar 24, 2017 7:09:56 GMT
Agree. For balanced team stats is the main characteristic But frankly speaking by the time You have all these sets You probably already had completed campaigns, conquests and city defence missions. Probably Empire mode attack cities could require some gear depending on the team. I do like a balanced lineup more. And those generals benefit more from the sets than another lineup, like the archer one. And if the archer or the balanced lineups are better is a whole different topic, and variates between taste, playstyle and strategy. Balanced lineup can provide higher benefit from the gear then the Commanders? How is that?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 12:58:06 GMT
I do like a balanced lineup more. And those generals benefit more from the sets than another lineup, like the archer one. And if the archer or the balanced lineups are better is a whole different topic, and variates between taste, playstyle and strategy. Balanced lineup can provide higher benefit from the gear then the Commanders? How is that? Because each set balances the weaknesses of the generals. That's not entirely the case with the archer lineup.
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Post by andrei on Mar 24, 2017 13:04:17 GMT
Balanced lineup can provide higher benefit from the gear then the Commanders? How is that? Because each set balances the weaknesses of the generals. That's not entirely the case with the archer lineup. Imo it is better to receive max output from the weapon and to make stong sides even stronger than just to make weak sides acceptable. In case I can have for example 225% damage while 2 commander activated it is better to have also legendary set equiped so the weapon is also buffed. It would be better to have it on one of the archers (if archer lineup) instead of trying to fix someone else weakness. And there is no difference whether it is archer or cavalry team. It works same way.
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Post by Taizong of Tang on Feb 8, 2019 6:31:55 GMT
for special comps, give odin to the hardest hitter, preferably with logistics or plunder, paladin to the stronger commander, titan to the weaker commander, keel to scouts or debuffers. for infantry, richard gets odin, petain gets paladin, barbarossa/peter gets titan, alexander gets keel. caesar is strong already with braveness and curemaster. for archer, jebe gets odin, jhansi gets paladin, nelson gets titan, nobunaga/li hongzang gets keel. if you have washington, you can give him odin, replace jebe with yi sun shin and replace li shimin with napoleon or any artillery general with rumor and/or destroy . for cavalry, saladin/blucher gets odin, attila gets paladin, edward gets titan, suleiman/asoka gets keel. if you have genghis khan you can give him keel. i dont know much about artillery. Li shimin ftw.
team comps cavcomp- attila , blucher , asoka , edward, koxinga , li shimin , nobunaga , caesar. this team has 2 aoe with koxinga and lishimin fire dragon to weaken generic enemies around their target, nobunaga can weaken stronger enemy general and caesar for emergency healing . saladin/blucher and lishimin can take turns tanking the enemy front, while the other cavalry in the back clear everything. in case blucher or lishimin are low health they can easily heal because of logistics/plunder. i think fire dragons work best with cavalry comps so they should be used together for amazing effect. You can also replace nobunaga with suriyothai for overkill.
archcomp- nobunaga , nelson , jhansi , li hongzang , moctezuma , jebe , koxinga , li shimin. this team has 3 archer commanders and deals tons of damage. Jebe will be very scary in this team. Same as cav comp above in theory but will be more difficult due to only 1 mounted archer. Pachacuti might replace nobunaga for more firepower.
infcomp- caesar , petain , peter , richard , alexander , moctezuma , yi sun shin , saladin. this team has 2 infantry commanders and can steadily advance. saladin, petain and richard can be main tanks while the other 5 can support. they can also be very healthy due to the high effective hp of their mostly infantry comp and armor master and 2x curemaster. Replace yi sun shin with barbarossa and saladin with xerxes and your enemies wont have enough reserves for your meatgrinder.
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