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Post by pirke on Feb 6, 2017 21:13:07 GMT
I need some overall gen line up, someone here say we need 2x of all, all cavs, 3 arch, 3 cavs..
I reach Gunpower age atm am done with conq and will focus on empire and camp.
So have prob to create line up. I know to w8 for arty germany one. Li, and Nob are clear picks but I buy Suleiman ( some ppl say Attila is 1#, some say Suleiman are late game 1# ) For inf I have gens on 3 stars, Barbar and Lincoln have poor stars where alex is much better, but I don't sure now to buy Caesar for 2# inf. Coz today read about Barbar at 6 star are similar like Alex and maybe is better or may Richard is best. For archer what to pick: Yi, Robin, Nelson, Moc, Cat.
Can someone who clear lvls tell me how my team should look like and what should I aim for?
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Feb 6, 2017 21:17:32 GMT
I need some overall gen line up, someone here say we need 2x of all, all cavs, 3 arch, 3 cavs.. I reach Gunpower age atm am done with conq and will focus on empire and camp. So have prob to create line up. I know to w8 for arty germany one. Li, and Nob are clear picks but I buy Suleiman ( some ppl say Attila is 1#, some say Suleiman are late game 1# ) For inf I have gens on 3 stars, Barbar and Lincoln have poor stars where alex is much better, but I don't sure now to buy Caesar for 2# inf. Coz today read about Barbar at 6 star are similar like Alex and maybe is better or may Richard is best. For archer what to pick: Yi, Robin, Nelson, Moc, Cat. Can someone who clear lvls tell me how my team should look like and what should I aim for? Only Nobunaga is the clear pick, if you use both Cleopatra and Bismarck(maybe Heihachiro also) Li Shimin is redundant. Which playing style do you prefer most? |
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Post by andrei on Feb 6, 2017 21:27:13 GMT
For Archer team the cheapest and consequently fastest (if speaking about clearing attack-levels) solution is to have:
Nobunaga (1350+1350 to upgrade Leadership & Spy to max), Li Honqzhang (1650 for Comander + 840 for Leadership), Yi Sun-sin (1080 for Bugle + 3805 for Armor master)
So, Nobunaga is the first as he is the best and relatively cheap. Li Honqzhang - cheap alternative to Nelson, providing Archer comander buff for the archer team (plus easy to upgrade to 6* - he has lv41), Yi Sun-sin is the last one as relatively expensive.
For Cavalry team kanue will advise I think. He is building Cavalry lineup.
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Post by pirke on Feb 6, 2017 23:01:13 GMT
I blind think best arty is Bismark and Li,I just buy her when Alex had 1*, never upgrade Cleopatra coz Alex on 2* shine. Li is gold and have best unit ability, Cleo is blue and but have rumor and morale self whos is 2# ?
Playstyle: just want best from all generals.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Feb 6, 2017 23:12:10 GMT
I blind think best arty is Bismark and Li,I just buy her when Alex had 1*, never upgrade Cleopatra coz Alex on 2* shine. Li is gold and have best unit ability, Cleo is blue and but have rumor and morale self whos is 2# ? Playstyle: just want best from all generals. Li has better output, no brain. Cleopatra is cheap to upgrade and has the same combat ability as Bismarck. So ability wise: Li Shimin>Bismarck>Cleopatra. Cost efficiency wise: Cleopatra>Bismarck>Li Shimin. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Feb 6, 2017 23:31:17 GMT
So which one do you prefer more? Archer or Cavalry?
Archer is ranged, and has anti-retaliation, also good at ai-controlled missions, but it cannot mop enemies like cavalry, unless getting Jebe, but here comes the problem of letting who gain the rage, archers gain rage slow already(not every archer is Washington Jhansi and Jebe), most good archers come late, and their defense is nnot that good.
Cavalry blitzs through enemies like lightning, they can handle many things by their own, and rage is almost infinite, but requires skill, sometimes needs to clear a path out of walls or crowds of enemies, and weak at ai-controlled missions.
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Post by pirke on Feb 7, 2017 1:22:47 GMT
Archer sounds fun
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Feb 7, 2017 3:30:20 GMT
Suleiman... TBH I don't know how to use him.
Here are some recommendations:
Archers: Nelson, Jhansi, Catherine, Li Hongzhang are great, Yi Sun-sin is a good one, but conflicts with Blucher.
Cavalry: Blucher is great.
Artillery: You are getting Bismarck, that's fine. If you haven't bought Li Shimin yet you may can consider Cleopatra.
Infantry: Barbarossa is a nice meat shield. If you want to use Ataturk because he costs no medal to upgrade that's also fine.
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Post by pirke on Feb 7, 2017 21:01:12 GMT
We are going 1x inf, 1x cav, 2x arty, 4x archery? Then I should first buy archers but duno who for 3 and 4#.
Nob, Nelson are purple for me is clear 2 first pick.
About Yi sun sin how bad conflicts? If small difference I wanna pick him, but if are big I should go for other?
Li Hongz and Catherine are blue Cat AoE, Li Buff, I have most Archer in squad so Li is better?
Jhansi is not even blue, I remember Leonidas fell into the shadow of other gens still at the beginning game to 10 lvl because it is gray, his stats don't rise like blue one. So it's worth to pick fer for 60 lvl?
Arty will pick Bismarck and Li. for Cavalry will buy Blucher when save medals until then will sub Suleiman/Saladin, but think Saladin coz max him Logistic.
And for inf Ataturk can't find him and does Barbarossa can rly stay in front line? When I in discovery age stay him on 3* fell behind Alex and Linc with better sustain. When I remember that thinking maybe he is not a good, I think for tank most lay some healing/dmg reduction ability, Richard and Caesar have it.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Feb 7, 2017 21:35:42 GMT
We are going 1x inf, 1x cav, 2x arty, 4x archery? Then I should first buy archers but duno who for 3 and 4#. Nob, Nelson are purple for me is clear 2 first pick. About Yi sun sin how bad conflicts? If small difference I wanna pick him, but if are big I should go for other? Li Hongz and Catherine are blue Cat AoE, Li Buff, I have most Archer in squad so Li is better? Jhansi is not even blue, I remember Leonidas fell into the shadow of other gens still at the beginning game to 10 lvl because it is gray, his stats don't rise like blue one. So it's worth to pick fer for 60 lvl? Arty will pick Bismarck and Li. for Cavalry will buy Blucher when save medals until then will sub Suleiman/Saladin, but think Saladin coz max him Logistic. And for inf Ataturk can't find him and does Barbarossa can rly stay in front line? When I in discovery age stay him on 3* fell behind Alex and Linc with better sustain. When I remember that thinking maybe he is not a good, I think for tank most lay some healing/dmg reduction ability, Richard and Caesar have it. 1. Yi Sun-sin's stat is inferior to Nelson and Nobunaga, the only think he has left is Bugle because Blucher exists. 2. Jhansi is in fact a blue general with white health, and she has super logistics (aka plunder, 100% trigger and 3% more regen), with Archer Commander. 3. Blucher takes place of Saladin almost perfectly, no worries. 4. If you want damage reduction you can just use the Suleiman who you had already, Barbarossa's advantage is when 6 stars, his attack will stay at what he has in max health, combined with Leadership and +50% counterattack damage. If you throw him into a group of enemies... You know what will happen. |
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Post by Singlemalt on Feb 8, 2017 6:08:46 GMT
I need some overall gen line up, someone here say we need 2x of all, all cavs, 3 arch, 3 cavs.. I reach Gunpower age atm am done with conq and will focus on empire and camp. So have prob to create line up. I know to w8 for arty germany one. Li, and Nob are clear picks but I buy Suleiman ( some ppl say Attila is 1#, some say Suleiman are late game 1# ) For inf I have gens on 3 stars, Barbar and Lincoln have poor stars where alex is much better, but I don't sure now to buy Caesar for 2# inf. Coz today read about Barbar at 6 star are similar like Alex and maybe is better or may Richard is best. For archer what to pick: Yi, Robin, Nelson, Moc, Cat. Can someone who clear lvls tell me how my team should look like and what should I aim for? Only Nobunaga is the clear pick, if you use both Cleopatra and Bismarck(maybe Heihachiro also) Li Shimin is redundant. Which playing style do you prefer most? As stated in another thread ,i disagree about cleo,, she is too weak for the way i play, li shimin is a beast which is as important as nobu in my game play Nobu and isabelle are goog enough, if you go for archer team and dont have alexander i would point out that moctezuma his cheap and has great healing skillz, nelson is ur 4th then. Since 2 of the 4 are not expansive it wont take u ages, Since you want to play with 1 cav and u have saladin and khan i would suggest not getting blutcher but invest in either caesar or getting li shimin or a stronger archer then isabelle |
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Post by kanue on Feb 8, 2017 11:31:50 GMT
Don't forget to add +15% to Cleo's atk and def because of her Inspiration. Maybe she's not that weak.
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Post by pirke on Feb 8, 2017 12:26:40 GMT
Don't forget to add +15% to Cleo's atk and def because of her Inspiration. Maybe she's not that weak. On 60 lvl Cleo have: Hp 2577 Att:373 + 15% > 430 Deff:67 + 15% > 72Ye thats not low when Inspired but don't have source of Bism lvl 60 to compare. |
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Post by pirke on Feb 8, 2017 13:07:08 GMT
Only Nobunaga is the clear pick, if you use both Cleopatra and Bismarck(maybe Heihachiro also) Li Shimin is redundant. Which playing style do you prefer most? As stated in another thread ,i disagree about cleo,, she is too weak for the way i play, li shimin is a beast which is as important as nobu in my game play Nobu and isabelle are goog enough, if you go for archer team and dont have alexander i would point out that moctezuma his cheap and has great healing skillz, nelson is ur 4th then. Since 2 of the 4 are not expansive it wont take u ages, Since you want to play with 1 cav and u have saladin and khan i would suggest not getting blutcher but invest in either caesar or getting li shimin or a stronger archer then isabelle I buy Li and Cle up em to 4* but dmg is still low few turns need me to take just one tower and after 2-3 tower one of them die. Honestly I did not get what I expected from Cleo don't upgrade her Inspiration she often falls and inspiration not even proc. Her Hp drop fast so dmg go lower and att is not even like Li. Isabelle u think Cat? Moct is good in deff but on Empire and Camp usually have to attack and have Alex on 4* For cav will pick Saladin for thrash and Suleiman for bosse, No I don't have khan so will have to change here later. Yes like u say first wanna go for key gens in squad after that will done with Inf and Cav. |
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Post by odm on Feb 9, 2017 9:45:26 GMT
Bismark (which is Napoleon lite) has about 2900 health, 440 attack and 100 defense at lv60
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