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Mar 15, 2017 18:12:20 GMT
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Post by Desophaeus on Mar 15, 2017 18:12:20 GMT
Um, @khurramzafar?
So pointing out that the internet is growing the fastest in countries outside America-Europe is a bad thing? It means that there will definitely be more and more diversity on the internet and we the Americans will be much less dominant as the early adapter of the Internet (some say we're the assimilator of the Internet, mwahahaha).
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Mar 15, 2017 18:17:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 18:17:06 GMT
Um, @khurramzafar? So pointing out that the internet is growing the fastest in countries outside America-Europe is a bad thing? It means that there will definitely be more and more diversity on the internet and we the Americans will be much less dominant as the early adapter of the Internet (some say we're the assimilator of the Internet, mwahahaha). I know about that, but I don't think we need to discuss the same thing every week over and over again. Whatever. Bleh. |
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Mar 15, 2017 18:19:52 GMT
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Post by Desophaeus on Mar 15, 2017 18:19:52 GMT
Um, @khurramzafar? So pointing out that the internet is growing the fastest in countries outside America-Europe is a bad thing? It means that there will definitely be more and more diversity on the internet and we the Americans will be much less dominant as the early adapter of the Internet (some say we're the assimilator of the Internet, mwahahaha). I know about that, but I don't think we need to discuss the same thing every week over and over again. Whatever. Bleh. Well this conversation was leading up to that, but it wasn't there yet until now. \●●/ |
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Mar 15, 2017 19:31:28 GMT
As a proud 'Merican, I have been taught to pronounce Z as 'Zee' and not as 'Zed'. I not only support pronouncing it 'Zee' because, y'know, America, but also because Zed is a name and thus makes it sound odd as a letter. I mean imagine teaching the alphabet to a kid named Zed and you have to teach him that 'Z' is pronounced 'Zed'. I personally dont know of anyone named 'Bee' or 'Double-U"
Of course, 'Zed' is more widely used, and thus the Americans lose this debate. But the fact that we are so different from the rest of the British commonwealth in terms of pronunciation of words and certain letters in the English language makes us unique compared to the rest, which is one of the most important principles of the American identity. That we are not British, we are different, including our language.
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 15, 2017 23:27:01 GMT
Face it... he was not the sole inventor of the Internet. At every step of the history of the Internet's development, the Americans has contributed heavily. The Internet needs more than one thing to function properly, more than one singular invention. I have said it before, it was a group effort that made the Internet possible. you know what? I've had enough of this discussion honestly. Literally this thing has been going on for four weeks. It dies, then comes back up again. Will this ever end? Every week there's like this one post on this topic by someone. I'll add to your one post woes: USA done invented the Internet. (with some help) Dis Invention way too big to claim not-USAn just because of an random person. Whole schools in USA' were essential to the internet, for one. |
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Mar 17, 2017 6:22:37 GMT
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Post by NetherFreek on Mar 17, 2017 6:22:37 GMT
Since when is tim bernes american? Face it... he was not the sole inventor of the Internet. At every step of the history of the Internet's development, the Americans has contributed heavily. The Internet needs more than one thing to function properly, more than one singular invention. I have said it before, it was a group effort that made the Internet possible. Ehm.. you said who publisiced it to the rest of the world, that was tim Bernes Lee. Also, i think you're mistaken. You confuse 2 systems, the americans had a system to communicate between differemt computers for the army. Have a nice day |
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Mar 17, 2017 6:24:34 GMT
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Post by NetherFreek on Mar 17, 2017 6:24:34 GMT
you know what? I've had enough of this discussion honestly. Literally this thing has been going on for four weeks. It dies, then comes back up again. Will this ever end? Every week there's like this one post on this topic by someone. I'll add to your one post woes: USA done invented the Internet. (with some help) Dis Invention way too big to claim not-USAn just because of an random person. Whole schools in USA' were essential to the internet, for one. This is disrespectful to cern, which has done most of the labour. Try searching 'the history of the internet' before making this claim, it'll help |
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Mar 17, 2017 6:31:37 GMT
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Post by NetherFreek on Mar 17, 2017 6:31:37 GMT
Also,
I'm getting tired of this, if americans get educated that internet was theirs, so be it, but you must realise that education differs in all countries, so in other countries, we might not view internet as something from the usa. But at least it exist today so enjoy it.
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Mar 17, 2017 7:42:35 GMT
Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 17, 2017 7:42:35 GMT
I'll add to your one post woes: USA done invented the Internet. (with some help) Dis Invention way too big to claim not-USAn just because of an random person. Whole schools in USA' were essential to the internet, for one. This is disrespectful to cern, which has done most of the labour. Try searching 'the history of the internet' before making this claim, it'll help I just researched it, you are correct, the Internet (the world wide web, hyperlinked portion) was deliberately invented by CERN. I should apologize. However you will also find that CERN was deeply connected with US institutions from the start, I believe they also used an American computer though I could be wrong. Edit: confirmed, was NeXT computer invented by Steve Jobs. As for your message that comes after this one, perhaps you believe us Canadians tainted, but I'm not American, I came by this belief myself. That explains it actually. I differ from most Canadians in some respects. Perhaps our silly schools failed to save me from the American education system. |
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Mar 17, 2017 8:01:55 GMT
Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 17, 2017 8:01:55 GMT
Besides, maybe I'm wrong myself, but truth is truth. The internet has a main inventor, if not an actual single person or country, and if non-American countries teach the internet was invented in Tibet, that is unfortunately simply wrong. There can be no allowance for nationalistic education to overwrite technological history.
(Mind you, I'm not comparing UK to Tibet, I'm simply arguing that the only reason for different education system to teach a different inventor is confusion, which in this case is understandable)
There, I've said my piece. Neither side has been silenced.
Let us indeed be thankful for the internet, which now receives global input.
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Mar 17, 2017 14:06:01 GMT
Post by Der Kaiserreich on Mar 17, 2017 14:06:01 GMT
I pronounce it as "zee". I suppose Singapore is closer to America than Britian. Maybe because of... history.
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Mar 17, 2017 14:23:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 14:23:33 GMT
Zed has had a clear majority over the "zee"
Unrelated but in dutch, sea is written and pronounced "zee"
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Post by Desophaeus on Mar 17, 2017 15:02:22 GMT
I never denied that CERN was involved. I never denied that Tim from UK was involved.
I do agree with Tim being credited for the hypertext markup language - HTML, and CERN was the insignator of the WWW, yes. But is that all the internet is? NO. It's much bigger than that.
(Oh my goodness, an American actually know what he's talking about)
What I said is that all elements of what makes up the Internet cannot be attributed to one person or one institute. For example, server technology, where did the hardware came from? Different places. Where did the software to support the ISPs came from? Different places. There is so many important innovations involved to make a HUGE global network achievable. If you were to count the patents involved with creating various things for the Internet to work... the number would be definitely very high.
Now, I must return this conversation to the old point: each step of creating the internet had Americans involved one way or another. We also adapted our society to incorporate the Internet very early, so in the beginning the people who used the Internet was almost 100% American. Now, all that has changed, and many more countries are entering the Internet and we the Americans view it as a good thing.
Of course, I had to tease about us "owning the internet" in humor.
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Mar 17, 2017 16:41:24 GMT
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Mar 17, 2017 16:41:24 GMT
Please stop arguing.
This is not a thread about internet, go and put it on Random Area.
This is thread about Z.
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Post by Mountbatten on Mar 17, 2017 18:25:12 GMT
Please stay on topic. You can discuss off topic subjects through PM or the Random Area.
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