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Post by Bismarck Jr on Mar 19, 2017 19:50:51 GMT
Our people who are doing the conquests are incapacitated So work is sloooow
In the meantime, I'm putting my gfx into overdrive which means they will look terrible but be done quicky. I will release pictures here.
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Post by Bismarck Jr on Mar 19, 2017 20:20:13 GMT
.org/image/zd62z57ej/] [/url] Very rough draft of Roman Town Watch
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Post by Bismarck Jr on Mar 25, 2017 22:33:02 GMT
.org/image/lhea6y4ap/] [/url] .org/image/xkjluifcx/] [/url] First is 150bc and then 218BC
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Post by Orion Pax on Mar 26, 2017 5:18:35 GMT
First is 150bc and then 218BC Both fail, I guess you make red russia, it didn't exist like that back then, that grey in Baltics would last at least to Moscow and to south ( today's Ukraine) is tribal area, which in fact consists from Balts and Slavs, at least that is how the map looks in history books.
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Post by Bismarck Jr on Mar 26, 2017 5:23:40 GMT
First is 150bc and then 218BC Both fail, I guess you make red russia, it didn't exist like that back then, that grey in Baltics would last at least to Moscow and to south ( today's Ukraine) is tribal area, which in fact consists from Balts and Slavs, at least that is how the map looks in history books. Of course russia didn't exist I am not an idiot, that is a combination of Slavs and Siberians and Sycthians used to save time and effort. Before you make such criticisms, please think first. I know it is tribal area, but it would be boring having only three civilized/playable countries no? Unless thats fine with you, then by all means, make it yourself. And no, the Balts did not live in Moscow.
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Post by Orion Pax on Mar 26, 2017 5:33:13 GMT
Both fail, I guess you make red russia, it didn't exist like that back then, that grey in Baltics would last at least to Moscow and to south ( today's Ukraine) is tribal area, which in fact consists from Balts and Slavs, at least that is how the map looks in history books. Of course russia didn't exist I am not an idiot, that is a combination of Slavs and Siberians and Sycthians used to save time and effort. Before you make such criticisms, please think first. I know it is tribal area, but it would be boring having only three civilized/playable countries no? Unless thats fine with you, then by all means, make it yourself. And no, the Balts did not live in Moscow. You think that Slavs were majority in those lands, in fact Slavs were mostly common with Fin-ugres and they lived ~250km from Moscow to east up to Siberia(no they didn't live in Siberia). There were some Slavs in the territory of Poland(which again is not as in your map, it is more to east and it should include big part of Ukraine then, Baltic tribes in west lived even further than Berlin and Poles didn't exactly have access to Baltic sea(they did, but very small).
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Post by Bismarck Jr on Mar 26, 2017 13:06:25 GMT
Of course russia didn't exist I am not an idiot, that is a combination of Slavs and Siberians and Sycthians used to save time and effort. Before you make such criticisms, please think first. I know it is tribal area, but it would be boring having only three civilized/playable countries no? Unless thats fine with you, then by all means, make it yourself. And no, the Balts did not live in Moscow. You think that Slavs were majority in those lands, in fact Slavs were mostly common with Fin-ugres and they lived ~250km from Moscow to east up to Siberia(no they didn't live in Siberia). There were some Slavs in the territory of Poland(which again is not as in your map, it is more to east and it should include big part of Ukraine then, Baltic tribes in west lived even further than Berlin and Poles didn't exactly have access to Baltic sea(they did, but very small). Listen to me, I said they were a mixture between slavs and siberians. I KNOW they didn't live in Siberia. Please leave me alone, you are wrong, and you aren't paying attention to what I'm saying. If you don't like the mod dont play it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 13:18:27 GMT
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Post by Bismarck Jr on Mar 26, 2017 13:19:40 GMT
I'm sorry this argument got out of hand.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 13:27:18 GMT
I'm sorry this argument got out of hand. well we can see who started it...
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Post by Bismarck Jr on Mar 26, 2017 18:29:33 GMT
Of course russia didn't exist I am not an idiot, that is a combination of Slavs and Siberians and Sycthians used to save time and effort. Before you make such criticisms, please think first. I know it is tribal area, but it would be boring having only three civilized/playable countries no? Unless thats fine with you, then by all means, make it yourself. And no, the Balts did not live in Moscow. You think that Slavs were majority in those lands, in fact Slavs were mostly common with Fin-ugres and they lived ~250km from Moscow to east up to Siberia(no they didn't live in Siberia). There were some Slavs in the territory of Poland(which again is not as in your map, it is more to east and it should include big part of Ukraine then, Baltic tribes in west lived even further than Berlin and Poles didn't exactly have access to Baltic sea(they did, but very small). And the saxons controlled the Berlin area, not the Balts. Calling @desopheaus to help out with this,
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 18:31:08 GMT
You think that Slavs were majority in those lands, in fact Slavs were mostly common with Fin-ugres and they lived ~250km from Moscow to east up to Siberia(no they didn't live in Siberia). There were some Slavs in the territory of Poland(which again is not as in your map, it is more to east and it should include big part of Ukraine then, Baltic tribes in west lived even further than Berlin and Poles didn't exactly have access to Baltic sea(they did, but very small). And the saxons controlled the Berlin area, not the Balts. Calling @desopheaus to help out with this, calling " Desophaeus" to help out with this FTFY
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Post by Desophaeus on Mar 26, 2017 20:02:51 GMT
To sort things out with the Berlin thing... first, a reminder: Berlin was a slavic name (specifically West Slavic) and the city founded in some time between 11th century and 12th century (nobody has the precise date). The founding of German Berlin is stemmed from Colln (not Cologne) uniting with Berlin eventually in 1710 AD, and the first mention of Colln is in 1237 AD. I quote "All German place names ending on -ow, -itz and -in, of which there are many east of the River Elbe, are of Slavic origin (see Germania Slavica)."
So... Slavs were the predominant population leading up to the time when the Margrave of Bradenburg was laid out in control of that area. Brandenburg is situated in territory known in antiquity as Magna Germania, which reached to the Vistula river. By the 7th century, Slavic peoples are believed to have settled in the Brandenburg area. The Slavs expanded from the east, possibly driven from their homelands in present-day Ukraine and perhaps Belarus by the invasions of the Huns and Avars. The two principal Slavic groups in the present-day area of Brandenburg were the Hevelli in the west and the Sprevane in the east.
Now I quote the most important portion from "Magna Germania" article on Wikipedia...(my emphasis added)
"The Germania of Caesar and Tacitus was not defined along linguistic lines as is the case with the modern term "Germanic". The Romans knew of Celtic tribes living in Magna Germania (Greater Germania), and what we now term Germanic tribes living in Gaul, then a predominantly Celtic region. It is also not clear that they distinguished the tribes into linguistic categories in any exact way. The language of the Germani Cisrhenani and their neighbours across the Rhine is still unclear. Their tribal names and personal names are generally considered Celtic, and there are also signs of an older Belgic language which once existed between the contact zone of the Germanic and Celtic languages.
Germania in its eastern parts was likely also inhabited by early Baltic and, centuries later, Slavic tribes. These parts of eastern Germania are sometimes called Germania Slavica in modern historiography."
So while there was some existence of Balts, they were never predominant and from a Roman perspective, it didn't matter if they were Balts or Slavs, only that they're unruly barbarians.
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Post by Desophaeus on Mar 26, 2017 20:05:36 GMT
I will look up the specs on Saxons.
(To be edited here)
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