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Post by mng on Apr 13, 2017 4:47:50 GMT
I crashed Beresford into Dobeln.
I've noted the "restart" suggestion being floated. I'm not sure I understand the value in doing that. Would I not accomplish th same thing by obtaining more highly recommended generals while reducing the current roster by regrouping as I go along?
It seems wasteful to have built up "x" generals, even if weak, and "xx" items, by restarting if the only benefit is clearing my slate of weaker generals.
My progress to-date is just having completed the Coalition campaign an Europe 1798 (Sophia, 400 years).
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Apr 13, 2017 6:22:06 GMT
I crashed Beresford into Dobeln. I've noted the "restart" suggestion being floated. I'm not sure I understand the value in doing that. Would I not accomplish th same thing by obtaining more highly recommended generals while reducing the current roster by regrouping as I go along? It seems wasteful to have built up "x" generals, even if weak, and "xx" items, by restarting if the only benefit is clearing my slate of weaker generals. My progress to-date is just having completed the Coalition campaign an Europe 1798 (Sophia, 400 years). It's a bit risky, since you've bought something and you don't know if you'll get it back. |
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Post by Louis-Alexandre Berthier on Apr 13, 2017 16:25:36 GMT
Since you've spent money, I would not. However, all those medals could be used for a better purpose than Beresford. If somebody has not spent money and bought Beresford, I would encourage them to restart. However, it looks like you've spent money on Blucher, so no.
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Post by mng on Apr 13, 2017 17:51:49 GMT
Since you've spent money, I would not. However, all those medals could be used for a better purpose than Beresford. If somebody has not spent money and bought Beresford, I would encourage them to restart. However, it looks like you've spent money on Blucher, so no. Thanks. So, I got all excited when I saw Dumouriez show up, as I'd seen his name come up many times in the forums. Grabbed him. Also available now is Quoadanovih (Cav trainer - 425 medals). Roster of 8 slots stands at: Sophia, Blucher, Dobeln, Charles (not AD), Cronstedt, Dumouriez, Arnold (for purchases/economics), + 1x open slot. Partial list, items: * Wagon Wheel, Horse Arty, Canvas Coat, Helmet, Potent Gunpowder, Pressed Powder * Gaiters, Bearskin Cap, Ferfuson Rifle, Brown Bess, Bayonet * Brass Horseshoe, Quality Saddle, Cuirass (x2), Guilding Cuirass, Trooper Sabre, Blucher Sabre, Cavalry Sword * Bow Chaser, Ram Stem, Propeller * On War, Encyclopaedia, Art of War * Tent tentage, Army Tentage, Military Camp (x2) * Completed 1798 (Sophia, 400 Years) * Partway through Europe 1806 * Completed Coalition * **Just** started HRE. Stuck (?) on CotR, which has told me twice - at turn *7* (not *17*) that I have failed. |
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Post by Louis-Alexandre Berthier on Apr 13, 2017 19:42:54 GMT
On Confederation of the Rhine, you should have no trouble. Just use artillery with Sophia wisely, and you should be fine. I think you have to defend that Germanic state to the bottom left of Germany.
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mng
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Post by mng on Apr 13, 2017 19:47:00 GMT
On Confederation of the Rhine, you should have no trouble. Just use artillery with Sophia wisely, and you should be fine. I think you have to defend that Germanic state to the bottom left of Germany. That's it, precisely. Both prior losses, I'd allowed an allied stated to go down early. This time, defended them and completed in 17 turns! Thanks. And - Berthier just showed up! Roster is now: - Sophia, Blucher, Dobeln, Berthier, Dumouriez, Charles, Arnold and Cronstedt. Quos is still in the wings to pick up as a cav trainer. |
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Post by Banastre Tarleton on Apr 13, 2017 22:17:20 GMT
Jeez that’s a lot of medals spent on items (some of which are redundant) and generals (several of which were “mistakes”). You must have bought the 10,000 medals pack or done a crapload of farming, in which case you should not restart.
Yes you should buy Quos now to give Dumouriez his fifth star.
I’m assuming you’ll be using Berthier as an artilleryman, and if not, I hope you read the fine-print on making a cavalryman of him.
The advisability of buying Arnold depends on your spending habits, so in your case, the math makes sense.
I kind of view your Dobeln purchase as Beresford 2.0, given the rest of your HQ, but I don’t hate the pickup. Again, my opinion is that a big-hitting infantry general is a luxury after your cavalry and artillery are top notch, given their limited impact on game play and non-utility in rushing for princesses.
Since you have seven fighting generals, and are probably keen on using Dobeln, you should consider euthanizing Charles or Cronstedt. If you use them, you’re just taking reps away from another general who will be with you longer.
For me, that is the skepticism with which I viewed your HQ. I saw you spending money and time developing generals who probably shouldn’t be in your lineup at end-game nor have value as trainers down the line. So given your “late-blooming” HQ, please consider running your generals through “1815 wall of cars” and “Chain the Beast – farming for nobility” immediately to “catch-up” on lost time. It is the single-most important thing to do after picking up a new general, in advance of buying them a shiny guilding cuirass. If you try to level-up your existing large-HQ + the princesses left to get in the conventional way (through game-play alone), you will end up with a bunch of generals that are all mediocre for rank/nobility.
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Post by Louis-Alexandre Berthier on Apr 13, 2017 23:16:06 GMT
I would not buy Quoad, just wait for Agha. While you're waiting, you can farm medals for Berthier. He is probably the second best cavalry general in the game (behind Lan of course). It's not worth getting Dumoruiez a fifth star, he will be regrouped into somebody else.
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Apr 13, 2017 23:22:15 GMT
I would rather buy geography and other items than waste thousands of medals on Berthier. Also there is no point training Dumouriez since you're eventually get rid of him. I would recommend you regroup Dumouriez into Charles since you probably only need two cavalry generals.
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Post by Banastre Tarleton on Apr 13, 2017 23:41:11 GMT
There is a whole lot of game-play between OPs current situation and being in a position to get Lan, who Dumouriez would be regrouped into. A 5* Dumouriez is a very serviceable "B" cavalry general (although I'd argue that Blucher is a B cavalry general as well). That's kind of the whole reason Dumouriez is popular - he's good and a trainer.
The difference between Quos and Agha is 50 pesos. When it comes to re-rolls, I've always believed a bird in hand is worth...
I'm really interested in hearing the rationale behind regrouping Dumouriez into Charles. You're suggesting to group the 4* general with trainer skill, into a 3* general with no training skill? I assume you meant the reverse. But even that doesn't make much sense, as I'd probably rank a 4* Charles as about the 57th best general in the game.
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mng
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Post by mng on Apr 14, 2017 1:38:26 GMT
I'd been using Cronstedt as my only navy guy and as a second arty. With bertier, i'll fun Sophia and bertier as artillery. Will keep cronstedt around for whatever navy occasion arises, until I get the right princess (Vic?).
One of Charles, Dumouriez, Blucher, Dobeln is operationally redundant - probably Charles.
I appreciate the feedback and advice. I've been doing some ChaintBeast, but am not familiar with the 1815 run. Will have to search that out.
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Apr 14, 2017 9:03:58 GMT
There is a whole lot of game-play between OPs current situation and being in a position to get Lan, who Dumouriez would be regrouped into. A 5* Dumouriez is a very serviceable "B" cavalry general (although I'd argue that Blucher is a B cavalry general as well). That's kind of the whole reason Dumouriez is popular - he's good and a trainer. The difference between Quos and Agha is 50 pesos. When it comes to re-rolls, I've always believed a bird in hand is worth... I'm really interested in hearing the rationale behind regrouping Dumouriez into Charles. You're suggesting to group the 4* general with trainer skill, into a 3* general with no training skill? I assume you meant the reverse. But even that doesn't make much sense, as I'd probably rank a 4* Charles as about the 57th best general in the game. regroup Dumouriez into Charles giving Charles four cav stars is my opinion. Dumouriez has Surprise and cavalry trainer. Charles has Surprise and Siege master looking at skills only, Charles would have a slight advantage over Dumouriez if they had equal stars. I would say keep Dumouriez if mng was in a position to get Lan in the near future but it doesn't seem like it. There would also be the choice of regrouping Charles into Dumouriez to boost Dumo's health though. |
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Post by pathdoc on Apr 14, 2017 11:02:29 GMT
After you put in Sophia, assuming you ditch Beresford and not Cronstedt for her, you will have two generals with Naval stars. Look up the Trafalgar grind if you don't know it already.
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Post by Mountbatten on Apr 14, 2017 14:36:51 GMT
Don't regroup Dumouriez into anyone but Lan.
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Post by Louis-Alexandre Berthier on Apr 14, 2017 14:50:17 GMT
I agree. Charles won't be used later.
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