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Post by Erich von Manstein on May 17, 2017 2:11:40 GMT
I promise, I will not break my promise. ATM I'm working on an enormous excel on general and skill info. Still, credits for my friends in Chinese forum, I only did the translation.  Output formula: Damage = attack^2 / (attack + defense). The range of attack could fluctuate from 100% to 75%. NOTE: This thread is made years ago and is severely outdated. Please refer to more recent guides on general selections!!! |
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Post by Singlemalt on May 17, 2017 5:03:36 GMT
Looking forward to this product!
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Post by Thrawn on May 17, 2017 16:00:38 GMT
Yay, finally.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on May 18, 2017 2:58:44 GMT
List of possible lineups:
1. Archer Commander(ArchCom):
Concept: use the high attack power of archers, eliminate enemy VP within 1 or 2 turns.
Pros: high output, ranged, low skill requirement.
Cons: fragile, rather slow rage refill.
Core: Nobunaga.
Recommended: Nelson, Li Hongzhang, Jhansi. (at least 2 out of 3)
Commonly Used: Moctezuma, Catherine, Jebe, Yi Sun-sin, Pachacuti.
Other Types: Blucher, Saladin, Barbarossa, Bismarck, Cleopatra, Khalid.
Recommended IAP: Washington, Napoleon.
2. Cavalry Commander(CavCom):
Concept: use the mobility ability of cavalry, mop up the entire map ASAP.
Pros: high mop-up ability, strong individual stats, fast in campaigns leads to time for rest&recovery, permanent skill activation.
Cons: fragile against archers, weak in AI-controlled missions, melee.
Core: Attila.
Recommended: Asoka, Edward. (at least 1 out of 2), Blucher.
Commonly Used: Shingen, Hannibal, Saladin, Huo Qubing, Suriyothai.
Other Types: Nobunaga, Moctezuma, Bismarck, Cleopatra, Khalid.
Recommended IAPs: Genghis Khan, Napoleon.
3. Infantry Commander(InfCom):
Concept: use the high survival ability of infantry, to gain victory step-by-step.
Pros: takes punches, 5 commanders maximum.
Cons: weak output without commander, slow rage refill, melee, fragile against cavalry.
Core: Barbarossa.
Recommended: Petain, Peter.
Commonly Used: Richard, Alexander, Xerxes, Spartacus, Joan of Arc, Caesar.
Other Types: Saladin, Blucher, Nobunaga, Moctezuma, Cleopatra, Bismarck, Khalid.
Recommended IAP: Napoleon.
4. Artillery Commander(ArtyCom):
Concept: use the high damage against fort to destroy enemy VP rapidly.
Pros: long range, high anti-fort damage, tons of health.
Cons: weak in melee, only 2 commanders, weak against human.
Core: Heihachiro, Khalid, Cleopatra.
Recommended: Li Shimin, Bismarck.
Other Types: Saladin, Blucher, Nobunaga, Moctezuma.
Recommended IAP: Napoleon.
5. Balanced
Concept: has all 4 kinds of units, doesn't have any weak ones to go against.
Pros: targets any kind of enemy, no significant weakness, little rage requirement.
Cons: relies heavily on artifacts for damage.
Recommended: Nobunaga, Yi Sun-sin, Saladin/Blucher.
Commonly used: all generals mentioned in this post excluding the ones heavily dependent on leader skill.
Recommended IAPs: all.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on May 28, 2017 21:17:04 GMT
Reserved, probably for menu. Update Order: Archer-Cavalry-Artillery-Infantry.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on May 29, 2017 1:26:57 GMT
George Washington
Type: Archer
Growth Rate: 8
Active: Sniper Master
Passive 1: Logistics
Passive 2: Defense Master
6 stars abilities: 30% no retaliation, 50% anti-cav&inf, 70% anti-arch
The definition of highest combat ability in EW5. He has buff towards nearly all human units, if supported with commanders, he will be INSANE! If you are going through other lineups, he can also be a great factor, but not that amazing as a supportive role.
Extremely recommended in ArchCom, mildly recommended in others.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jun 6, 2017 22:08:45 GMT
Nobunaga Oda
Type: Archer
Growth Rate: 6
Active: Sniper Master
Passive 1: Leadership
Passive 2: Spy
6 stars abilities: 50% no retaliation, attack twice(the attack value halves for the second attack)
He is well known for his double debuff ability. Also, he has the highest plain output excluding Washington (Attila needs to max his Attack Master out). He could fit in every single lineup, and in ArchCom his combat ability will shine.
Extremely recommended in all lineups.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jun 6, 2017 22:13:52 GMT
Horatio Nelson
Type: Archer
Growth Rate: 6
Active: Archer Commander
Passive 1: Navigation
Passive 2: General
6 star abilities: 50% no retaliation, 3 hex firing range.
He has amazing output also, but comparing to Nobunaga, his battlefield control ability can only be applied in naval campaigns. What really raise him up are his long firing range and Archer Commander. The existence of a Commander can rise the team output significantly. With Nelson's long range, there can be more archers getting buffed.
Strongly recommended for ArchCom, not recommended in others.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jun 6, 2017 22:17:54 GMT
Yi Sun-sin
Type: Archer
Growth Rate: 5
Active: Armor Master
Passive 1: Navigation
Passive 2: Bugle
6 stars abilities: 50% no retaliation, 70% anti-arch
The only defensive high growth rate archer. His battlefield control ability is between Nobunaga and Nelson. Like Nobunaga, he can be applied in all lineups, however his cost is a problem.
Recommended in all lineups.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jun 6, 2017 22:22:58 GMT
Catherine the Great
Type: Archer
Growth Rate: 4
Active: Sniper Expert
Passive 1: Shelter
Passive 2: General
6 stars abilities: 75% no retaliation, 70% anti-arch.
The queen against ranged units, high anti-arch damage, and not afraid of artillery. Also she is the only coin growth rate 4. When you reach Discovery she is a must for you, and it's your preference to keep her or not.
Recommended in ArchCom.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jun 9, 2017 0:11:47 GMT
Li Hongzhang
Type: Archer
Growth Rate: 4
Active: Archer Commander
Passive 1: Leadership
Passive 2: Defense Expert
6 stars abilities: 50% no retaliation, 100% anti-cav
Deals the highest anti-cav damage among all generals(including Washington!). Leadership is another factor that rises him up to challenge Nelson.
Strongly recommended for ArchCom, not recommended in others.
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Aug 9, 2017 1:01:50 GMT
Nice! Can u do the other ones too?
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Post by Minnesotaball on Aug 9, 2017 12:43:13 GMT
What's great is besides Catherine I am using these generals current line up is Washington, Nelson, Attila, Napoleon, Nobunaga,Yi Sun Sin, Richard, then li hongzang in industrial age. Currently in gunpowder
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Sept 19, 2017 20:04:24 GMT
Jebe
Type: Archer
Growth Rate: 4
Active: Armor Expert
Passive 1: Alert
Passive 2: Defense Expert
6 star abilities: 50% no retaliation, continuous attack.
He shines in 3 and 6 stars, continuous attack and archer type combined provides him huge attack bonus, and ranged! He has much faster rage refill rate than Yi Sun-sin, which allows him to trigger his active more frequently. Passive? Jebe has no passive.
Recommended in ArchCom.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Sept 19, 2017 20:05:33 GMT
What's great is besides Catherine I am using these generals current line up is Washington, Nelson, Attila, Napoleon, Nobunaga,Yi Sun Sin, Richard, then li hongzang in industrial age. Currently in gunpowder I have to know which lineup do you prefer because currently you have cores for both ArchCom and CavCom. |
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