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Post by sonicbluetyphoon on Dec 20, 2016 22:38:09 GMT
I have followed this guide and I won pretty quick too. Egypt is defanetaly doable, but Japan... Man U must need maxed ion cannon or something!
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Dec 21, 2016 10:51:05 GMT
I have followed this guide and I won pretty quick too. Egypt is defanetaly doable, but Japan... Man U must need maxed ion cannon or something! Not really. All you need to win quite easily is one good art EC 3-4 k medals worth. Just capture Yokohama from Osaka and than Tokyo from Yokohama (assuming you have EC with lv3 plain, supply, street, explosives and barrage it is quite easy, also he will have no problems destroying nearby tower). High level supply tech is welcome too. After that just keep your EC in Tokyo and produce nukes there. With some support of nukes and missiles he will be able to defend it quite easily. Some 3 air stars good for him too. In fact most of aliens will attack Tokyo or nearby cities, and some attacks on other cities which you will capture, you will be able to handle using rockets or nukes. And keep in mind, that it is much easier while your allies are still alive, as not all aliens will attack you. Also watch the cities, which you can capture with just some PMI, as aliens don't defend many cities. Main goal is to capture nukes factories to produce nukes and as many cities as you can to prevent new aliens production. So there are no unnecessarry cities, as any city can produce alien. Also leave towers untouched. It is not worth to destroy them. Sure, it's not so quick, but not so hard too. |
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Post by alexbb on Apr 20, 2017 6:46:13 GMT
Thanks jcash for the guide, but more fore demonstrating that it is possible to conquer against aliens without insane generals or max tech  . I've got similar tech, only couple resource generating wonders plus Guderian, Govorov, Badoglio, Patton, Ozawa + 1 EC artillery not maxed yet (similar to Govorov, but better speed  ). I went pretty fast for Ankara and abandoned the rest of the middle east for the moment. In Ankara I've got Patton and braced for impact . Only lost Badoglio and Ozawa, but the others (except the EC who has supply) spent most of the time resting or defending (either in middle east from loose ships coming from Australia & Asia via sea, or in the Balcans). I took all Africa with 2 paratroopers. Edit: Finished in 81 rounds. Few observations in addition to kanue's awesome guide: - It's better to try to build MI in cities, since its cheaper and will have better experience from start. Paratroop them only for taking cities or take a shortcut to get behind enemy lines. - Forts/bunkers are very useful in dealing with waves. Just take ground in advance with MI, and build a fort 5-6 hexes away from your city. At least 2-3 aliens will stop there to attack, giving you time to kill the rest. Lots of times I've build another fort next turn just to keep them busy for another round. Resit the temptation to fire with forts, they do little damage and only help aliens gain experience faster. - Aliens do lots of damage so they grow in exp really fast, while on the other hand, your units do small damage to them, so you grow quite slow (slower than in human campaigns) - Always, but always take a look at the map at turn start and try to anticipate waves, usually they come from a distance and you can see forces building up in one place. I had 2 nasty surprises. I took most of Europe and focusing on UK, with only few RAs hitting Scandinavia, in 1 turn a wave of UFOs was raised there + the idle units sitting around on oil/port woke up and killed about 6 or 7 RAs + took back few objectives from the northern shore. I had to use nukes to neutralize them. Second surprise was in Russia where an idle UFO took back Moscow and started moving south while I was skipping enemy turns and not paying attention to the map. So spend some time to kill idle ufo's after taking all cities in an area . Good luck! PS: What to do next? I feel WC2 is mostly finished for me, and was one of the best mobile games I've played. Tried EW4 but I feel its too easy. |
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Post by Desophaeus on Apr 20, 2017 7:05:28 GMT
Thanks jcash for the guide, but more fore demonstrating that it is possible to conquer against aliens without insane generals or max tech . I've got similar tech, only couple resource generating wonders plus Guderian, Govorov, Badoglio, Patton, Ozawa + 1 EC artillery not maxed yet (similar to Govorov, but better speed ). I went pretty fast for Ankara and abandoned the rest of the middle east for the moment. In Ankara I've got Patton and braced for impact . Only lost Badoglio and Ozawa, but the others (except the EC who has supply) spent most of the time resting or defending (either in middle east from loose ships coming from Australia & Asia via sea, or in the Balcans). I took all Africa with 2 paratroopers. Edit: Finished in 81 rounds. Few observations in addition to kanue's awesome guide: - It's better to try to build MI in cities, since its cheaper and will have better experience from start. Paratroop them only for taking cities or take a shortcut to get behind enemy lines. - Forts/bunkers are very useful in dealing with waves. Just take ground in advance with MI, and build a fort 5-6 hexes away from your city. At least 2-3 aliens will stop there to attack, giving you time to kill the rest. Lots of times I've build another fort next turn just to keep them busy for another round. Resit the temptation to fire with forts, they do little damage and only help aliens gain experience faster. - Aliens do lots of damage so they grow in exp really fast, while on the other hand, your units do small damage to them, so you grow quite slow (slower than in human campaigns) - Always, but always take a look at the map at turn start and try to anticipate waves, usually they come from a distance and you can see forces building up in one place. I had 2 nasty surprises. I took most of Europe and focusing on UK, with only few RAs hitting Scandinavia, in 1 turn a wave of UFOs was raised there + the idle units sitting around on oil/port woke up and killed about 6 or 7 RAs + took back few objectives from the northern shore. I had to use nukes to neutralize them. Second surprise was in Russia where an idle UFO took back Moscow and started moving south while I was skipping enemy turns and not paying attention to the map. So spend some time to kill idle ufo's after taking all cities in an area . Good luck! PS: What to do next? I feel WC2 is mostly finished for me, and was one of the best mobile games I've played. Tried EW4 but I feel its too easy. Counter-Observations: -Forts under construction tends to attract attention from the enemy AI better than completed forts. Often, the AI ignores the completed forts and shoots at my units instead. I've experimented, this checks out as a real fact. -As for the MI vs PMI, the main difference is how far into enemy territory will you be able to run. That's why PMI is recommended for that specific reason. The bulk of my units produced is still mainly RAs and FAs, not MIs or PMIs, so the cost difference is minimal, especially when you're earning 1,000 gold per turn or higher at that point. -The damage in favor of aliens... THAT is WHY you should use indirect fire (aka Rockets) rather than fight them head-on. Use your cities as a focal point of defense to funnel the aliens' attacks. -To avoid surprise counter-attacks, USE the cities' locations to your advantage. What I do mean is like visualize for example Ankara, Baghdad, and Tehran as a roughly shaped obtuse triangle. Keep your RAs within that triangle as a garrsion to protect the FAs in those 3 cities. You can hold off the aliens almost infinitely if you have enough RAs. There's other triangles to use on the map like Lyons, Marseilles, and Milan forming a triangle on the France/Italy border. |
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Post by alexbb on Apr 20, 2017 10:26:09 GMT
Desophaeus, You're right, definately RA unit is your only friend against aliens (planes & nukes don't count as units). PMI, MI, FA is more for 'tactics', and not for actual fighting against them. Actually, I've built very few FAs. Not all cities can buy RA, that was where I had PM with better health that can take more damage when using them ''defending'' or hitting cities. Then I've only built forts in the path of alien waves, 5-6 hexes or more away from the city I was defending with my main force. It did not happened for me to have that fort ignored by 2-3 aliens that hit it, regardless if it was built or in construction. The good part is that if they are 6-7-8 units, 2 or 3 kill your fort (and get behind the rest) while others move forward, making it easier to deal with. Next turn, just start another fort until you finish the first group. Key is to conquer as much land as possible with MI or PMI. This tactic was very effective for me in Asia until I got a serious position there with a city to build RA's, because bringing them from Teheran was too slow, and had to deal with 3 or 4 waves moving towards me. I think it helped me to finish in 81 rounds, without Ion Cannon (only level 1), and relatively low tech for artilery (level 8). And it was only my second try, on first try I had lower tech and gens.
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Post by deki on Oct 28, 2017 17:33:00 GMT
Tried this conquest few times,and always failed.I start pretty good,till turn 25-30 i got Medina,Bagdad,Tehran,Ankara and few small citied.But then..many alliens come to me,from all sides.I even fought 20 alliens around Ankara,Bagdad..I kill them,even i lose many units,i bring up reinforces,and when there are only 2,3 alliens left around me,there they come! 5 from 1 side..3,4 from other side.I put FA in Ankara and RA's around city.When FA gets hit,i replace it with another.But cant defeat that number of alliens.They capture Ankara,and i fail.My techs are not so bad.Artillery lvl 8,all resource wonders,except that smallest one for oil.
What am i doing wrong?
Once i captured Istanbul and Athens,but i always lose here,cant proceed further than Tehran and Istanbul
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Post by Minnesotaball on Oct 28, 2017 17:45:19 GMT
Tried this conquest few times,and always failed.I start pretty good,till turn 25-30 i got Medina,Bagdad,Tehran,Ankara and few small citied.But then..many alliens come to me,from all sides.I even fought 20 alliens around Ankara,Bagdad..I kill them,even i lose many units,i bring up reinforces,and when there are only 2,3 alliens left around me,there they come! 5 from 1 side..3,4 from other side.I put FA in Ankara and RA's around city.When FA gets hit,i replace it with another.But cant defeat that number of alliens.They capture Ankara,and i fail.My techs are not so bad.Artillery lvl 8,all resource wonders,except that smallest one for oil. What am i doing wrong? Once i captured Istanbul and Athens,but i always lose here,cant proceed further than Tehran and Istanbul Well I don't think your doing anything wrong. I never did a Egypt because I would do good until a massive horde of 20+ ships would come and beat me up. I completed 1 star as japan. |
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Post by deki on Oct 28, 2017 18:02:54 GMT
Yeah but they are something like 20,then 10,then 8,then 20 again etc. Im not godlike to kill em all
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Post by Arya Stark on Nov 5, 2017 22:24:36 GMT
The most remarkable thing is that you don't need god-liked generals, very high upgrade, and super ion cannon.  Heh heh I only have Badoglio right now... maybe I'll try the conquest when I reach 1975 (Im on late 1971) |
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Post by deki on Nov 6, 2017 0:41:34 GMT
Well,good luck!
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Post by zeusman999 on Apr 14, 2020 20:41:27 GMT
hello, i'm new here. been using this forum as a guide for a long time. i just joined. i beat all of the conquests but alien and i only have govorov. my tech tree is kinda trash, nothing really upgraded except paratroopers. i just want to ask: is it possible to beat aliens with only govorov and 3 un upgraded eyeless? and a bad tech tree? i have 500 medals, but can't medal grind. still haven't beat the campaigns (still on ww2)... thanks for any help!
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Apr 15, 2020 1:33:46 GMT
hello, i'm new here. been using this forum as a guide for a long time. i just joined. i beat all of the conquests but alien and i only have govorov. my tech tree is kinda trash, nothing really upgraded except paratroopers. i just want to ask: is it possible to beat aliens with only govorov and 3 un upgraded eyeless? and a bad tech tree? i have 500 medals, but can't medal grind. still haven't beat the campaigns (still on ww2)... thanks for any help! It's already a super hard thing to beat aliens without several good generals, without tech... it's too early for you. Keep playing campaigns and human conquests. |
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Post by Darth Vader on Apr 19, 2020 19:23:06 GMT
I have fought the alien army a few times and I found that the best way to beat them is by using rocket artillery. Also you have a better chance of winning if you try to connect with your Allies.
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). I went pretty fast for Ankara and abandoned the rest of the middle east for the moment. In Ankara I've got Patton and braced for impact 
