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Post by deadman on Oct 1, 2017 5:40:01 GMT
I'm on round 37 of a 1939 Finland conquest. I can happily say that my allies are doing fantastic. Italy was being manhandled in Africa at first, but were able to bounce back and take Egypt. Spain eliminated most of France's African territory as well. Germany destroyed France and Poland no problem and is currently holding an iron defense against Britain, the U.S, and Canada (without my help. Amazing step up from WC3). Japan was great too, they destroyed the American navy and are sieging Alaska. They've also pushed halfway through the ROC and Russia only has two cities left in that region. Thailand is somehow still alive, I actually have no idea why. As for me, I'm on my way to victory. Almost the entire Soviet Union is mine, along with Sweden, Denmark, Poland, and Norway. Advancing into the ROC currently and I brought a swarm of artillery to Glasgow, evading the British navy. It's completely occupied getting killed by Germany anyway. Pro tip: The Soviets spawn Timoshenko in Leningrad and another general with him both on round 9. So make sure you capture the 2 nearest cities before then. So yeah, bottom line is that the AI looks extremely better. I mean, I let Germany do all of the work and then swooped in and stole their prize from them for half of my territory. Lucky you then. My play through as spain was met with germany only killing off belgium and denmark (netherlands was ignored for some reason) forcing me to beat back french generals pushing on barcelona. About 115 turns later I had conquered the whole world with only italy taking algeria and yugoslavia, but being completely useless the rest of the game and germany only being able to hold vienna berlin and some other city. I swear I felt I was play wc2 again with brain dead allies, with the key differance being the enemy was far more intelligent then before. In the end It was the spanish that took london and paris, while the germans died on the magnot line and manstien did his magical disapearing act by the 2nd turn, did he retire? did he die? I will never know. |
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Post by deadman on Oct 1, 2017 5:44:26 GMT
BTW to make the last session even sadder, germany never took poland, guderian and the rest of his group took denmark then died trying to land and take normway. As you can tell I am a bit upset with my first experince with the new AI
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Post by Mountbatten on Oct 1, 2017 14:13:54 GMT
BTW to make the last session even sadder, germany never took poland, guderian and the rest of his group took denmark then died trying to land and take normway. As you can tell I am a bit upset with my first experince with the new AI Hmm. Maybe it's because the AI is on a one track mind for attacking. So Spain is supposed to assist Germany at suicidal speeds. Therefore, you taking Spain as your country screwed over Germany because as humans we don't suicide our units. I took Finland and attracted several Soviet generals, taking some pressure off of Germany. Not to mention I prevented Timoshenko and co from spawning. Also, Guderian went with Manstein to Belgium rather than Poland. |
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Post by deadman on Oct 1, 2017 15:04:59 GMT
This AI is unpredictable at best.I do not feel comfortable palying conquest with such low tech levels if all my allies are just going to suicide their units. As we speak I am playing though as germany now with italy and spain failing to hold europe and african cities they start with. This going to be at least another 100 round conquest if not 150.
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 1, 2017 15:20:09 GMT
It seems to be a bit of a crap shoot.
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Post by Mountbatten on Oct 2, 2017 2:37:08 GMT
I can say that enemies will indeed swarm to stop you from entering their territory by sea. I had an entire army landing in Canada and together with America they put a stop to that reaaal fast. It took me an entire naval force and some crazy ship maneuvers to finally get my artillery squad safely onto land. Alaska was even harder to take, even with Japan's help.
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 2, 2017 2:51:35 GMT
I can say that enemies will indeed swarm to stop you from entering their territory by sea. I had an entire army landing in Canada and together with America they put a stop to that reaaal fast. It took me an entire naval force and some crazy ship maneuvers to finally get my artillery squad safely onto land. Alaska was even harder to take, even with Japan's help. I think this is one of the biggest differences. It has made naval combat more important and the task of amphibious invasions more realistically challenging. |
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Post by The Light Bringer on Oct 2, 2017 4:20:55 GMT
This AI is unpredictable at best.I do not feel comfortable palying conquest with such low tech levels if all my allies are just going to suicide their units. As we speak I am playing though as germany now with italy and spain failing to hold europe and african cities they start with. This going to be at least another 100 round conquest if not 150. It's even very predictable |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Oct 2, 2017 9:26:58 GMT
I can say that enemies will indeed swarm to stop you from entering their territory by sea. I had an entire army landing in Canada and together with America they put a stop to that reaaal fast. It took me an entire naval force and some crazy ship maneuvers to finally get my artillery squad safely onto land. Alaska was even harder to take, even with Japan's help. I think this is one of the biggest differences. It has made naval combat more important and the task of amphibious invasions more realistically challenging. You can't also launch half-prepared amphibious attacks as my attack on 2 Alaskan cities were forced to a desparate attempt to hold a position near Anchorage. Then again, I'm still not using armour due to cost issues. |
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Post by The Light Bringer on Oct 2, 2017 18:18:10 GMT
I have trouble in asia with the AI even though I knew it would do like that it is still hard to beat tank general on heavy tank with light tanks and not so high incomeš¬
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Oct 3, 2017 6:10:41 GMT
I have trouble in asia with the AI even though I knew it would do like that it is still hard to beat tank general on heavy tank with light tanks and not so high incomeš¬ +/- 90% of my spawned land troops are inf. I am trying to beat Doolittle & Clark who REFUSES to enter the sea. |
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Post by delinard on Oct 3, 2017 11:31:01 GMT
Just installed wc4 and played as 1939 finland,after killin few soviets generals germany came and is sieging moscow right now,it seems the best way to save allies is too kill off enemy generals by being agressive at start.Germany took over whole europe expect britain and some parts of russia,rommania took over poland,spain took southern france and some african lands,even italian ethiopia is holding their ground,now italy and spain will soon take over entire africa,while japan conquered entire ROC,destroyed american navy and is invading Siberia.Seems like Japan is always super op being your ally or not.But killing few soviets generals really made an impact.Now im just sitting with 2 cities and feeding my allies.Also norway is op or AI cant properly invade it.
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