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Post by Erich von Manstein on Apr 14, 2016 23:01:24 GMT
Ok i want to do HRE 1798 i got Murat,Dombrowki,Lassale,Lannes,Napolean,Davout,Poniatowski,Bernadotte,Moreau,Sopia,Sidney,Kosciuszo all of them with 5 stars on their respective troop desegnation with any item i need or will use so please somebody give me strategy to win the elite princesses. In my game that won Victoria, I used Lan, Sophia, and Isabella, I have only princesses. So in your case, you can use Dombrowki or Murat in place of Lan, Moreau in place of Isabella. Put Sophia(with oak wheel) on the Siege Art in Brunswick, put Moreau on the Heavy Art near Italy, produce a heavy Cav in wilburg in second turn and put Dombrowki (with war horse) on it. French/Spain Front: With Sophia, Dombrowki, Davidivich, Clenau, and AugustI, you would able to wipe out Dumouriez, and the French Art and inf and capture the factory i the third turn. Then Dombrowki goes to Lyon, stable at Marsell, small town by the fort in south France, Zaragoza, then stable near Madrid. Clenau follow Dombrowki to Lyon, and then depends on Marmont and Desaix action. If they don't come to Lyon then Clenau can go take clermont and Bordeaux, ignore all the forts, Sophia will clean them later. If they come, then produce 1 or 2 militia in Lyon to do the flanking and Clenau will handle the cleanup. Sophia is the fun part, place her in the center of the 2 forts and Moreau, and watch she bombard Moreau, while her counterfire destroy both forts, make sure you move your other troops out of way. Davidivich's job is eyeballing Moreau to make sure he doesn't do sudden move. Once done with Moreau, then move to Paris, same thing, place sophia in the place where the fort can fire at her. She will get you into Paris at about turn 15 and you don't need to spam any troops. After Paris, Sophia will mop up forts in France, Davidiich go help British in North France. AugustI is too slow so go to Zurich and the small French town by Italy border. Also bring Rosenburg to this front, he can mess with Desaix in Zurich, after taking Zurich, he can go take Amsterdam. Italy Front: Moreau go clean the Ottoman fort and the heavy art in the first 2 -3 turn then go to Italy, then the usual boring bombardment and inf takeoever thing. Only Moreau and 1 inf is needed in Italy. Ottoman Front: Auchduke, Deroy, and Lusignan will be enough. Deroy and Lusignan are able to take out the fort and take the factory by the time Auchduke arrives after finishing the business in Belgrad and nice encounter with a Ottoman Guard Cav. Auchduke can take Istanbul in about turn 16. Then the usual mop up job. Poland Front: Leave the light Cav in Lviv, and light art in the small town. don't provok Poland. Dombrowki like to go to Prussia. If he come down on you, just produce couple of militia to flank him. don't attack him, it is a waste. Just flank him and defence till the Russian come kill him. Your troop should attack Poland only in coordination with Russian. Demmark Front: Just need Hortz and the troop defending Oldenburg. Flanking and attack is the key. The key in this play is use less troop and save resource. In my game, I produce 1 light cav in French Front. Produce 3 light cav in Spain. No new troop in Italy. 6 light cav in Ottoman. 7 militia in Poland Front. 2 inf in Denmark. and I ended 9999 gold/>6200 iron/>9400 food at turn 31. I need that 6200 iron to get Victoria because my campaign progress is only at never surrender. Hope this will help you. Where will Rosenberg go then? |
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Post by Jean Lannes on Apr 15, 2016 2:18:53 GMT
In my game that won Victoria, I used Lan, Sophia, and Isabella, I have only princesses. So in your case, you can use Dombrowki or Murat in place of Lan, Moreau in place of Isabella. Put Sophia(with oak wheel) on the Siege Art in Brunswick, put Moreau on the Heavy Art near Italy, produce a heavy Cav in wilburg in second turn and put Dombrowki (with war horse) on it. French/Spain Front: With Sophia, Dombrowki, Davidivich, Clenau, and AugustI, you would able to wipe out Dumouriez, and the French Art and inf and capture the factory i the third turn. Then Dombrowki goes to Lyon, stable at Marsell, small town by the fort in south France, Zaragoza, then stable near Madrid. Clenau follow Dombrowki to Lyon, and then depends on Marmont and Desaix action. If they don't come to Lyon then Clenau can go take clermont and Bordeaux, ignore all the forts, Sophia will clean them later. If they come, then produce 1 or 2 militia in Lyon to do the flanking and Clenau will handle the cleanup. Sophia is the fun part, place her in the center of the 2 forts and Moreau, and watch she bombard Moreau, while her counterfire destroy both forts, make sure you move your other troops out of way. Davidivich's job is eyeballing Moreau to make sure he doesn't do sudden move. Once done with Moreau, then move to Paris, same thing, place sophia in the place where the fort can fire at her. She will get you into Paris at about turn 15 and you don't need to spam any troops. After Paris, Sophia will mop up forts in France, Davidiich go help British in North France. AugustI is too slow so go to Zurich and the small French town by Italy border. Also bring Rosenburg to this front, he can mess with Desaix in Zurich, after taking Zurich, he can go take Amsterdam. Italy Front: Moreau go clean the Ottoman fort and the heavy art in the first 2 -3 turn then go to Italy, then the usual boring bombardment and inf takeoever thing. Only Moreau and 1 inf is needed in Italy. Ottoman Front: Auchduke, Deroy, and Lusignan will be enough. Deroy and Lusignan are able to take out the fort and take the factory by the time Auchduke arrives after finishing the business in Belgrad and nice encounter with a Ottoman Guard Cav. Auchduke can take Istanbul in about turn 16. Then the usual mop up job. Poland Front: Leave the light Cav in Lviv, and light art in the small town. don't provok Poland. Dombrowki like to go to Prussia. If he come down on you, just produce couple of militia to flank him. don't attack him, it is a waste. Just flank him and defence till the Russian come kill him. Your troop should attack Poland only in coordination with Russian. Demmark Front: Just need Hortz and the troop defending Oldenburg. Flanking and attack is the key. The key in this play is use less troop and save resource. In my game, I produce 1 light cav in French Front. Produce 3 light cav in Spain. No new troop in Italy. 6 light cav in Ottoman. 7 militia in Poland Front. 2 inf in Denmark. and I ended 9999 gold/>6200 iron/>9400 food at turn 31. I need that 6200 iron to get Victoria because my campaign progress is only at never surrender. Hope this will help you. Where will Rosenberg go then? Probably under Dombrowski's sabre |
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Post by Joachim Murat on Apr 20, 2016 16:47:36 GMT
OMG! Dumbrowski Attacking Brunn. Its confusing since i dont have anyone there. How it is possible?
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Post by Mountbatten on Apr 20, 2016 16:51:14 GMT
OMG! Dumbrowski Attacking Brunn. Its confusing since i dont have anyone there. How it is possible? I had the same problem. Every game, he goes from Brunn to Vienna. The way I deal with him is start building light artillery whenever you can at the factory next to Vienna, and then slowly but surely kill Dombrowski as he attacks. Keep building tier 1 line infantry whenever he damages your units in Brunn. I like to kill off my weakened units by hitting Dombrowski, so that they don't waste my food. |
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Post by Joachim Murat on Apr 20, 2016 18:19:55 GMT
OMG! Dumbrowski Attacking Brunn. Its confusing since i dont have anyone there. How it is possible? I had the same problem. Every game, he goes from Brunn to Vienna. The way I deal with him is start building light artillery whenever you can at the factory next to Vienna, and then slowly but surely kill Dombrowski as he attacks. Keep building tier 1 line infantry whenever he damages your units in Brunn. I like to kill off my weakened units by hitting Dombrowski, so that they don't waste my food. What u did is restart that haha. Then i realize that it was my fault for sending back up for prussian, later on i just send back up if Russia start attacking. But, new problem came since Prussian cant handle Dumbrowski and the Russian just to SLOW to move their general haysss. |
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Post by Joachim Murat on Apr 20, 2016 18:24:52 GMT
That's a wonderful guide. kanue is great and it is very difficult to repeat his strategy. I was always counting on winning at turn 30-31 as I wasn't able to do that earlier. My best try was turn 29 but with not enough resources. I will try to detalize one of the kanue's tip, maybe it will be helpful. I am starting to upgrade cities in that sequence: upgrade factories first. It will give so important income of metal. After all the factories are upgraded I am starting to upgrade towns. I am not upgrading stables (except the one on the border with France in the very beginning where I normally build strong cavalry unit) and ports as it consumes metal and payback time is worse in comparison to factories and towns. While upgrading towns it is very important to upgrade bigger towns first as it gives higher payback on investments. Moreover I stop upgrading small towns (I and II level) by turns 22-23 as payback is questionable and You need some free gold for units to destroy enemy forts left on the map earlier. So in case You was planning Your economy according to that strategy Your income by turn 30 will be around: 1600+ gold & 380-390+ metal. That will give You a possibility to have enough resources for receiving Lan and Victoria even in case You are finishing the conquest at the border turn 30-31. P.S.: For the units that are purchased during the conquest I was always trying to save metal. For some purposes cheaper units are enough for this or that enemy unit/fort. But it will take a few turn right to make strong cavalry while u waiting money and upgrading cities. By Turn 17-20 I just got Italy, Napoleon, Istanbul, Warsaw by Russia, Amsterdam by Prussian, Paris 1 turn away and I cant even touch Norway (DOBELN SO STRONK  ). Spain too damn far to reach but i got the city next Lyon (near port). Btw how u get Barcelona by turn 12 kanue ? |
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Post by Mountbatten on Apr 20, 2016 19:12:02 GMT
That's a wonderful guide. kanue is great and it is very difficult to repeat his strategy. I was always counting on winning at turn 30-31 as I wasn't able to do that earlier. My best try was turn 29 but with not enough resources. I will try to detalize one of the kanue's tip, maybe it will be helpful. I am starting to upgrade cities in that sequence: upgrade factories first. It will give so important income of metal. After all the factories are upgraded I am starting to upgrade towns. I am not upgrading stables (except the one on the border with France in the very beginning where I normally build strong cavalry unit) and ports as it consumes metal and payback time is worse in comparison to factories and towns. While upgrading towns it is very important to upgrade bigger towns first as it gives higher payback on investments. Moreover I stop upgrading small towns (I and II level) by turns 22-23 as payback is questionable and You need some free gold for units to destroy enemy forts left on the map earlier. So in case You was planning Your economy according to that strategy Your income by turn 30 will be around: 1600+ gold & 380-390+ metal. That will give You a possibility to have enough resources for receiving Lan and Victoria even in case You are finishing the conquest at the border turn 30-31. P.S.: For the units that are purchased during the conquest I was always trying to save metal. For some purposes cheaper units are enough for this or that enemy unit/fort. But it will take a few turn right to make strong cavalry while u waiting money and upgrading cities. By Turn 17-20 I just got Italy, Napoleon, Istanbul, Warsaw by Russia, Amsterdam by Prussian, Paris 1 turn away and I cant even touch Norway (DOBELN SO STRONK ). Spain too damn far to reach but i got the city next Lyon (near port). Btw how u get Barcelona by turn 12 kanue ? I got Barcelona turn 12 as well. Follow the guidelines for your strongest cavalry general |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Apr 20, 2016 19:45:43 GMT
But it will take a few turn right to make strong cavalry while u waiting money and upgrading cities. By Turn 17-20 I just got Italy, Napoleon, Istanbul, Warsaw by Russia, Amsterdam by Prussian, Paris 1 turn away and I cant even touch Norway (DOBELN SO STRONK ). Spain too damn far to reach but i got the city next Lyon (near port). Btw how u get Barcelona by turn 12 kanue ? I got Barcelona turn 12 as well. Follow the guidelines for your strongest cavalry general I sent Radetzky straight to Spain, and s/l to make sure he doesn't get too Bloodied. Defense Art helps, but you can manage without it |
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Post by Joachim Murat on Apr 20, 2016 23:12:31 GMT
Mountbatten Jean-Luc Picard finally i got Isabella. But i have to s/l 2 times rule on europe which is nerve me lol. Maria, sakurako then isabella. Ah maybe its bcs i wait a few turn for stronger cavalry. Ill try this again later perhaps for Lan and Victoria.
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Post by TK421 on Apr 21, 2016 0:49:32 GMT
This one gave me a bit of trouble. Why? Cavalry. For some odd reason, I just haven't been able to deal with them recently. It's gotten to the point where I (no joke) play this song whenever a cavalry general comes by...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HkJHApgKqw. Quite appropriate, really:/ Oddly enough, though, the French fell much quicker than they should have. That's a plus, I guess.
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Post by Malepartus on Apr 21, 2016 4:57:47 GMT
Yesterday I succeded on Victoria, applying Jibbu's recommended split of generals and unit-saving philosophy. My own generals were fully trained Spohia and Lan in the west and fully trained Isabella in Italy.
I finished in turn 29 with 9999/6020/96xx resources. Unbelievable. Gave me 850 years Europe and 600 years Asia. Campaign progress is 315 stars.
So if you are prepared to invest some medikits (I used 5 medium sized for the helpers in France, Denmark and Ottoman), this is a strong recommendation.
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Post by polkadot on Apr 23, 2016 2:41:46 GMT
Thanks to this guide I get isabella in turn 39 and gold 9999 im indonesian player and sorry for my bad english
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Post by Jean Lannes on Apr 24, 2016 7:22:43 GMT
Mountbatten Jean-Luc Picard finally i got Isabella. But i have to s/l 2 times rule on europe which is nerve me lol. Maria, sakurako then isabella. Ah maybe its bcs i wait a few turn for stronger cavalry. Ill try this again later perhaps for Lan and Victoria. How many years did you get and you can take Barcelona by turn 12 (maybe even eariler) when you have an aced cavalry general with movement equipment and geography |
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Post by Jean Lannes on Apr 24, 2016 7:23:44 GMT
I got Barcelona turn 12 as well. Follow the guidelines for your strongest cavalry general I sent Radetzky straight to Spain, and s/l to make sure he doesn't get too Bloodied. Defense Art helps, but you can manage without it Defense art is the reason I don't use Radetzsky. It triggers almost never for me and it doesn't fit in my playstyle of full out attack |
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Post by Joachim Murat on Apr 24, 2016 10:34:12 GMT
Thanks to this guide I get isabella in turn 39 and gold 9999 im indonesian player and sorry for my bad english Im Indonesian as well, but who the *Auto Corrected* cares abt english man cmon! If they can understand u, thats enough i guess. |
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). Spain too damn far to reach but i got the city next Lyon (near port). 
