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Post by Marshal Ney on Oct 5, 2017 20:04:46 GMT
First of all, I would like to learn from you how to link a post, after that I can shape my work. My goal, in fact, is to create a list of all EW4 generals and give them an overall rating taking into account the cost and skills of each. This work is designed like that of Picard, but I will enrich my with the schemes of the generals, to allow for a more immediate understanding.
My analysis is based on three fundamental principles:
1. Skills count more than stars (up to a point, like the case of Berthier)
2.If two generals are very similar, I consider the most expensive of them as a bad general (like the case of Dombrowski and Radetzky)
3.Training stars are a skill
I will subdivide all the generals into 8 groups based on a value-for-money ratio:
1.Excellent
2.Very good or excellent and expensive
3.Very good but expensive or good and cheap
4.Good
5.Good but expensive or mediocre and cheap
6.Mediocre
7.Not good
8.Terrible
Lastly, please let me know if I am about objective falsity and correct me.
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Post by Marshal Ney on Oct 5, 2017 20:32:15 GMT
Well, Sophia is the first princess obtainable, nevertheless she has many strengths. She's clearly an artillery general, in fact explosive increases the damage of cannons, spy is great against fortresses and siege master against cities. Note that the latter two skills aren't necessarily specialized in artillery, so Sophia is a hybrid general, that is, she can also command units of infantry, cavalry or ships. The high cost that it takes to get more stars - through trainers - drives me to include this formidable Russian princess among the excellent but expensive generals. |
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Post by Marshal Ney on Oct 6, 2017 12:00:17 GMT
Maria has only one useful skill, formation. Considering that Maria is an infantry general with one skill, can be considered poor. However she's three stars in movement and three in training and she's free (obviously). I recommend not to occupy a slot with her, though she may be a general for the beginning of the game. Definitely DON'T waste trainers on her.
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Post by Marshal Ney on Oct 6, 2017 13:47:44 GMT
 Fatimah is the only general who has both the best economic skills; but what is the purpose of a general except to fight? For example, Kosciuszko, in addition to having architecture has three infantry stars and defense art. Fatimah isn't terrible because she's free. |
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Post by Marshal Ney on Oct 6, 2017 16:05:06 GMT
Missed the fact that this American princess is very attractive, it's difficult to give Kate a rating. She's all three naval skills plus four training stars: she's probably the best admiral, but remember that ships aren't very important, perhaps like infantry. Is there room for a general who can command, albeit superbly, only the worst of the units? I recommend keeping Kate only to those with more slots. |
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Post by Antonio Luna on Oct 6, 2017 16:23:40 GMT
Fatimah is the only general who has both the best economic skills; but what is the purpose of a general except to fight? For example, Kosciuszko, in addition to having architecture has three infantry stars and defense art. Fatimah isn't terrible because she's free. Being a free general, she is most useful when it comes to conquests using small countries such as Serbia and Moldavia. Either use her to upgrade cities/forts/stables in early game and garrison her on a city for high early game income, or put her on a fort for early game survival. She has also proven her worth, to me at least, as a fort general during the campaign. There are a few campaign scenarios wherein having her command a fort is most advantageous. |
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Post by Marshal Ney on Oct 6, 2017 16:28:30 GMT
I calculated that you need 4185 medals for Sakurako to have five stars in infantry, cavalry, artillery and movement. Obviously this is an unprofitable expense, yet the Japanese princess isn't entirely useless:
_ You can use her to get Lan and Victoria and then regroup her into one of them
_ You can train her in one unit up to 5 stars and keep her
The second choice is for those with more slots. |
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Post by Marshal Ney on Oct 6, 2017 16:31:53 GMT
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Post by Marshal Ney on Oct 6, 2017 17:14:04 GMT
Finally I find myself having to judge the most controversial princess, Isabela. I strongly advise you to keep her throughout the game for two reasons:
_ you need AT LEAST one artillery general
_ she has a relatively low final cost
Well, who can compete with Isabela? Simple: Sophia, Moreau and Scharnhorst.
Let me explain why Isabela should be your first choice:
_ Sophia has definitely a better attack against fortresses and cities, however Isabela is the only one able to move heavy artillery 5 hexes (thanks to combo geography-engineering) and she negates the evasion in EVERY situation
_ Moreau has a better attack thanks to explosive, but he costs REAL MONEY and he's slower
_ Scharnhorst has less movement but being rather inexpensive, he's a good rival
In conclusion, Isabela is needed.
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Post by Antonio Luna on Oct 7, 2017 4:49:20 GMT
I calculated that you need 4185 medals for Sakurako to have five stars in infantry, cavalry, artillery and movement. Obviously this is an unprofitable expense, yet the Chinese princess isn't entirely useless:
_ You can use her to get Lan and Victoria and then regroup her into one of them
_ You can train her in one unit up to 5 stars and keep her
The second choice is for those with more slotsSakurako is Japanese my friend.  |
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Post by Marshal Ney on Oct 7, 2017 6:02:37 GMT
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Post by Marshal Ney on Oct 8, 2017 13:39:35 GMT
How long have we been discussing who was better between Lannes, Victoria and Suvorov? Maybe too much 😂
Victoria is the only general to have assault art AND defense art, and in addition she's the two best infantry skills. Not only: Victoria also has 4 stars in navy, so it takes little to make her a powerful admiral. Moreover her extraordinary utility is that those who play with 4 slots don't have room for a pure navy general or a pure infantry general, and Victoria can command both units. |
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Post by Marshal Ney on Oct 8, 2017 14:00:20 GMT
Ignore Lan for a moment.
If I had to think of the best general possible in this game, he would have the following features:
_ cavalry specialization (because it's the best unit) with strike and surprise
_ good survivability, with leadership and 5 training stars
_ good attack, with assault art
I think you've noticed that I just described Lan, in fact she's the best general in the game.
Finally, Lan has a final cost of 1830 medals.
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Post by pathdoc on Oct 11, 2017 15:13:34 GMT
Ignore Lan for a moment.
If I had to think of the best general possible in this game, he would have the following features:
_ cavalry specialization (because it's the best unit) with strike and surprise
_ good survivability, with leadership and 5 training stars
_ good attack, with assault art
I think you've noticed that I just described Lan, so she's the best general in the game.
Finally, Lan has a final cost of 1830 medals.
On what basis do you calculate this cost? |
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Post by Marshal Ney on Oct 11, 2017 15:58:17 GMT
Sorry, pathdoc, I wasn't quite clear. However, Lan needs 2 stars in cavalry and 2 in movement. 2 Agha + 2 Diez = (375 + 540)2 = 1830 medals. Obviously this number refers to the minimum cost possible. |
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