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Post by Leonid Govorov on Oct 14, 2017 6:19:54 GMT
Perhaps, but it'll take you a century and a half to complete the conquest. Yeah like all no generals conquests in wc4 Except for SK 1950/60, they will end VERY quickly. Painless and fast.(OK maybe a bit painful)
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 14, 2017 6:58:22 GMT
I actually had an easier time with Egypt than I did with China in 1943 Conquest. The relative weakness of nearby enemies gives you a chance to build up without having to defend for your life. The three star factory in Cairo is also a big advantage. I finished in 41 turns with my dream team generals. You also start out close enough to Japan and Europe that you don’t have to waste too much time crossing giant land masses and oceans with your troops. Army you send south to take out Italian Ethiopia can transition towards Thailand and Japan. Army you send west towards Tripoli and Algiers can cross Gibraltar and quickly destroy Spain and then sweep across Europe.
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 5, 2017 18:25:53 GMT
My allies keep wrecking Rommel and taking over Africa. It's a sad day when you actually want the AI to suck and they are actually good.
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Nov 6, 2017 8:08:46 GMT
My allies keep wrecking Rommel and taking over Africa. It's a sad day when you actually want the AI to suck and they are actually good. Hey, I know what you're talking about. The allies always steal your s@#t.
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Post by su on Nov 10, 2017 15:00:57 GMT
kanue And what do you think about conquest with 2 stars country? I think ROC and Spain are good choices for 1943. How did you clear ROC 1943? By the time I’m done with Japan and into Europe through Russia. I get stuck along the Soviet front, even after taking their main cities to help with unit production. I can’t get anywhere past Poland.
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Post by andrei on Nov 10, 2017 15:11:18 GMT
The approach depends on Your gens and techs. Mostly on low techs and not the best gens You need to hold for a while - to kill nearest enemy's main wave with generals and start Your own advance only after that. In case You have powerful gens (especially tank gens) and/or high tech You can start Your advance from the very beginning. It is not even necessary to focus with all Your forces on every enemy general.. When You are too late (means most of Your allies are defetated) to create huge empire and strong economy it is quite painful to contunue the conquest. So generally it depends on Your game progress quite a lot.
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 10, 2017 15:58:42 GMT
For advice on the Europe front... I'd reccomend taking it one city at a time. Pick a direction (south, north) and use paratroopers to surround the city while artillery bombs it. That way they can't move the unit out and make a new one. Your paratroopers will be expensive, but your economy will probably be booming by then.
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Post by kanue on Nov 11, 2017 6:13:23 GMT
I think ROC and Spain are good choices for 1943. How did you clear ROC 1943? By the time I’m done with Japan and into Europe through Russia. I get stuck along the Soviet front, even after taking their main cities to help with unit production. I can’t get anywhere past Poland. I guess, you might go to European front a bit too late. My suggestion is that you go help your European allies as soon as you capture Nanking and Beijing. After taking these two major cities, the Japanese threat on land is pretty much pacified, and you can deal with their homeland later, whenever you have the resources to do so. IMO, preventing your European foes from getting to strong is more important than finishing off Japan. -And if you have problem holding off waves of enemies' troops then build a lot of forts. They are cheap and sturdy. -If you think that you are too late and counter attack does not seem possible, then you can wait till you get access to missile. By that time, you probably have a lot of industry and tech resources that allows you to launch a lot of missiles. Use missiles + paratroop to knock out small enemies (Bulgaria, Hungary, Finland, Romania) one by one so you have less enemies to worry about (make sure that you look through the map and these small countries do not have any city or port far away that would prevent it from defeated).
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Post by yuanzhong on Nov 27, 2017 10:36:50 GMT
Does process in campaign affect the hardness of conquest? I just start the Pacific camp but my tech is really good. Max in inf art and tank (pacific level) and half of navy and air, i meet army spam at every conquest I do in 1943. With Egypt, i meet spam from Italy and German (by sea way, Africa army is normal. More than 10 units come in a wave (just turn 10-11 begin of tech lv2). I can't do anything although i spend all for navy defend. And i also notice that Finland spam unit every turn (double and triple tank or inf) while it has only 1 city.
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Post by su on Nov 27, 2017 19:19:56 GMT
There is slightly different way to do it. Go for Athens immediately within the first few turns by building a stacked cruiser with a navy general. Focus on bombarding/ capturing the city while saving money. Keep your army near Egypt solely to defend. Once Athens is captured, spawn a stacked heavy tank with a strong armor general. This is when it gets tricky, you will be targeted by the entire axis forces in the area so just try to survive. After surviving the onslaught, clean up Bulgaria, Romania and Hungary and whatever cities north of Athens. By doing this the game in Europe changes, Russia starts beating Germany, England doesn’t lose any cities to Germany and United States start to cleanup the cities near Paris. Italy becomes passive and Germany would not have any troops left to fight as they are constantly being cleared by soviet rocket artillery. From here taking Africa and Europe is a piece of cake. Over at Asia, United States have more or less destroyed the Japanese navy while China and Australia is holding the fort. I was able to take my time over and conqueror Japan and Thailand without much resistance.
I took about 56 turns to complete.
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 27, 2017 22:09:45 GMT
I just did an ROC conquest today. By the time I finished off Japan, the USSR was fading and all of Europe including Britain was dead. It was a legendary battle between Asia and Europe. China and Germany. David and Goliath. Missile spammer and brain-dead AI. I eventually won on turn 61. Taking all of Europe and Africa was tiresome though.
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Nov 27, 2017 22:17:03 GMT
I just did an ROC conquest today. By the time I finished off Japan, the USSR was fading and all of Europe including Britain was dead. It was a legendary battle between Asia and Europe. China and Germany. David and Goliath. Missile spammer and brain-dead AI. I eventually won on turn 61. Taking all of Europe and Africa was tiresome though. Ooh, was taking out Japan not hard? What was your general team btw?
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 27, 2017 22:25:01 GMT
I just did an ROC conquest today. By the time I finished off Japan, the USSR was fading and all of Europe including Britain was dead. It was a legendary battle between Asia and Europe. China and Germany. David and Goliath. Missile spammer and brain-dead AI. I eventually won on turn 61. Taking all of Europe and Africa was tiresome though. Ooh, was taking out Japan not hard? What was your general team btw? I had Tokyo on round 21. Just blitz Nanking as it is a level 3 factory and lightly defended compared to Peking. Once you capture that industry, build a triple stacked heavy tank and let your general curb stomp the Japanese infantry. My general team was Guderian (huge help), Konev (meh), Messe (Good at start, trash after), Rundstendt (Did nothing), Nagumo (Did nothing), and Leeb (I got him killed early with my tactical foolishness).
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Nov 27, 2017 22:28:38 GMT
Ooh, was taking out Japan not hard? What was your general team btw? I had Tokyo on round 21. Just blitz Nanking as it is a level 3 factory and lightly defended compared to Peking. Once you capture that industry, build a triple stacked heavy tank and let your general curb stomp the Japanese infantry. My general team was Guderian (huge help), Konev (meh), Messe (Good at start, trash after), Rundstendt (Did nothing), Nagumo (Did nothing), and Leeb (I got him killed early with my tactical foolishness). Oh alright, this might be possible with just Guderian and perhaps Messe. OK now I want to try this
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Post by yuanzhong on Nov 27, 2017 23:22:25 GMT
There is slightly different way to do it. Go for Athens immediately within the first few turns by building a stacked cruiser with a navy general. Focus on bombarding/ capturing the city while saving money. Keep your army near Egypt solely to defend. Once Athens is captured, spawn a stacked heavy tank with a strong armor general. This is when it gets tricky, you will be targeted by the entire axis forces in the area so just try to survive. After surviving the onslaught, clean up Bulgaria, Romania and Hungary and whatever cities north of Athens. By doing this the game in Europe changes, Russia starts beating Germany, England doesn’t lose any cities to Germany and United States start to cleanup the cities near Paris. Italy becomes passive and Germany would not have any troops left to fight as they are constantly being cleared by soviet rocket artillery. From here taking Africa and Europe is a piece of cake. Over at Asia, United States have more or less destroyed the Japanese navy while China and Australia is holding the fort. I was able to take my time over and conqueror Japan and Thailand without much resistance. I took about 56 turns to complete. In my play, capture Athen by navy is impossible when they spam new double or triple heavy tank every turn from Athen. I really wonder why many other said this is easy and i stuck in this. Finland 1939 is smooth try but 1943 is nearly impossible. I will try more in campaign (just start Pacific) because i think there is a link between Camp and Conquest.
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