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Post by Singlemalt on Oct 13, 2017 14:09:34 GMT
Hi guys,
I have a question for debate I want to share..
Reason is I have enough medals for my 1st naval guy and I am eager to get Donitz.. However, I dunno if I should choose Yamamoto instead..
What I see uptill now naval guys are more important then in wc3. Even putting Auchinleck on naval units helps me already a lot.
Air is way less strong (I still use it alot by using Dowding).
Taken in account I will get donitz, nimitz and i have dowding I am woundering whether Yamamoto is really needed..
What do you guys think?
Sincerely
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 13, 2017 14:23:52 GMT
Yamamoto is better than Dowding because you can use him in naval scenarios even without a carrier. He is the only air general worth keeping around. That said, Dönitz should be your top priority. Give him Sailor and Rumor. Best naval commander in the game, and you need naval commanders a lot more than an air general.
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Post by stoic on Oct 13, 2017 14:39:41 GMT
Yamamoto is better than Dowding because you can use him in naval scenarios even without a carrier. He is the only air general worth keeping around. That said, Dönitz should be your top priority. Give him Sailor and Rumor. Best naval commander in the game, and you need naval commanders a lot more than an aircraft general. Is there any sense at all in hiring Dowding. The price is right, but after your judgments about Air forces in WC4, I'm not sure anymore... |
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Post by andrei on Oct 13, 2017 14:43:18 GMT
In WC3 navy was useless, in WC4 air is useless  What about air generals influence when using missiles? |
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Post by Singlemalt on Oct 13, 2017 14:53:25 GMT
I wont say air generals are useless. It depends on your play!
For me I am always an air support player. Dowding has made my life much easier.... he is cheap and strong.
Dont forget no damage on your general for air support. Maybe after upgrade all its less great but for now dont underestimate it completly
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 13, 2017 14:55:40 GMT
Unless they do something in an update to buff air generals, I see no point in hiring Dowding or Arnold. There are some scenarios and battles where it makes sense to use Yamamoto in a carrier, but they are rare. I suppose if you just don’t want to pay for Yamamoto you could keep Dowding, but honestly Nimitz would be the better cheap option because he has that Navy skill you can use more often.
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 13, 2017 15:01:41 GMT
In WC3 navy was useless, in WC4 air is useless What about air generals influence when using missiles? Missiles are great. Only issue using an air general to boost them is that the point in conquests where you are really using missiles heavily is usually the mop up phase towards end game. I like using my generals earlier when I’m making my big push and they make the most difference. With eight general slots in conquests now, you could certainly try to save one for an air general to boost missiles and maybe save you a turn or two mopping up those last few cities. |
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Post by Singlemalt on Oct 13, 2017 15:34:13 GMT
Unless they do something in an update to buff air generals, I see no point in hiring Dowding or Arnold. There are some scenarios and battles where it makes sense to use Yamamoto in a carrier, but they are rare. I suppose if you just don’t want to pay for Yamamoto you could keep Dowding, but honestly Nimitz would be the better cheap option because he has that Navy skill you can use more often. I want to point gently out that when you dont spend a lot of money on the game and you need time to upgrade stuff your strategy plan cant be similar to yours.. my generals are still all like they were when they were bought.. the influx of medals is way too low. This is important for you to realise that not all can use your tac.. Sincerely |
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 13, 2017 16:02:47 GMT
Unless they do something in an update to buff air generals, I see no point in hiring Dowding or Arnold. There are some scenarios and battles where it makes sense to use Yamamoto in a carrier, but they are rare. I suppose if you just don’t want to pay for Yamamoto you could keep Dowding, but honestly Nimitz would be the better cheap option because he has that Navy skill you can use more often. I want to point gently out that when you dont spend a lot of money on the game and you need time to upgrade stuff your strategy plan cant be similar to yours.. my generals are still all like they were when they were bought.. the influx of medals is way too low. This is important for you to realise that not all can use your tac.. Sincerely This is kind of the point though. If you have limited medals coming in, you seriously don’t want to waste them on a general with very limited utility. I realize you like air support and want to use it, and that’s fine. But the more economical choice would be Halsey, who is essentially the same price as fully discounted Dowding but has naval skill you can use in many more scenarios, or simply waiting for fully discounted Nimitz. If you like Dowding, use him. But he is not the best choice for anyone who is trying to maximize the value they get out of their generals. |
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 13, 2017 16:05:10 GMT
Also, if you are limited in the medals you have coming in, an air general should be your last priority. Air power is too expensive and not strong enough to compete with the output you will get from a land general or even a naval general in a stacked cruiser.
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Post by best75 on Oct 13, 2017 16:37:00 GMT
Considering you already have Dowding for your air slot I say you can skip the navy-air slot and should go pure navy.
So no need for Yamamoto because you already have air general
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Post by Singlemalt on Oct 13, 2017 16:45:21 GMT
best75, that was indeed my line of thinking soonerjbd, I understand your reasoning. Buying a general that wont be an endgame general is always a loss of medals. Ofc, atm we dont know what endgame geberals ill be.. Probably you will be right in the end as general general points. However, for my game play this purchage was really a very good call! I use him often on howitzer as air/art general or on a airplane carrier. The conparions with this Halsey guy makes no sens to me because of difference in rank (hp) .org/]  [/url] .org/]  [/url]
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Post by andrei on Oct 13, 2017 16:56:52 GMT
Singlemalt , Fully understand You. I was playing ET games with and without IAP generals. It is totally different approach. While using IAP You can start to earn and save medals for the very best endgame generals from the very beginning. And it is impossible to proceed in this way without pain while FTP
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Post by stoic on Oct 13, 2017 17:05:33 GMT
Singlemalt , Fully understand You. I was playing ET games with and without IAP generals. It is totally different approach. While using IAP You can start to earn and save medals for the very best endgame generals from the very beginning. And it is impossible to proceed in this way without pain while FTP It is a reflection if our life, actually :0). Rich men become more rich. Poor men remain what they are. :0) :0) :0) |
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Post by stoic on Oct 13, 2017 17:16:15 GMT
best75, that was indeed my line of thinking soonerjbd, I understand your reasoning. Buying a general that wont be an endgame general is always a loss of medals. Ofc, atm we dont know what endgame geberals ill be.. Probably you will be right in the end as general general points. However, for my game play this purchage was really a very good call! I use him often on howitzer as air/art general or on a airplane carrier. The conparions with this Halsey guy makes no sens to me because of difference in rank (hp) Good point, actually! HP is one of the most decisive factors in the game. Halsey (being quite an attractive choice) will be much more expensive while promoted to M General... |
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